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  • #121
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:02am Jan 31, 2015 9:02am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} Ok, my attempt: the red line is a fake move aimed to create liquidity (herd traders/algos/stop loss) for a large order in the opposite direction, a buy order executed in steps during the period shown in yellow. The balance is one of liquidity. After both phases have finished, the price remains stalled, but is eventually going in the direction of the large order/up with a very high probability. k
I can not confirm nor deny
Actually you might be right in your logic and you might be wrong depending on who's trading. If you ask me, there is no such thing as a fake move, except for the ones created specially by some brokers to take out SL's. You might be right on the direction thingy.
Anyway, as retail traders, me and you cannot know where the orders are placed and how large they are.

I do not base my entries on equilibrium.
  • #122
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:08am Jan 31, 2015 9:08am
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} So you saying that trader who is not going to understand it is better to leave trading ?? Dont take this like some kind of attack Its just my feeling you know this looks like u are a Genius or someone with huge Ego ´?. Because i dont think that people like,,, Hosada , Williams ,Bollinger , even SonicR guy Etc... Had sayed somethink like if this not going to work for u Just quit .. And those are people who have maked systems or indicators like Ichimoku ,, BB , Alligator, CCI etc.. And those systems/indicators works and lot of retail or...
No offense taken.
didn't want to sound harsh but if someone would explain to you exactly how to trade, let's say Gann lines or Bollinger bands, from A to Z and showing you everything ... wouldn't you be able to do it?

If you're asking me, and being objective, trading the way I do is quite simple, of course after you get all the facts, theories and explanations.

So...if you will not understand this, by all means, go on trading. Hint: just don;t base your trading on squiggly line indicators!
  • #123
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:09am Jan 31, 2015 9:09am
[quote=istvan;8037091]
Quoting pinktrade
{quote} Hi Pinktrade, maybe this is what we are looking for ? {image}
Sorry again Istvan, not even close
  • #124
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:12am Jan 31, 2015 9:12am
[quote=istvan;8037110]
Quoting istvan
{quote} One more example from yesterday EURUSD. Am I on the right track.? {image}
Like I said ... no.

Let me shed some light. I looked for your presented chart (E/U M5) and here it is:
- please remember I do not base my entries on equilibrium, it is a coincidence that in the following chart it coincides with an entry and the start of a trend.
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  • #125
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:16am Jan 31, 2015 9:16am
Quoting kinspk
{quote} Let me take a guess: (1) It may be due to the equal number of up or low bars (depend the drawing are precisely drew or random drew from the point of candles) or, (2) The velocity of the price moving down = the velocity of price moving up | in which I use angles to measure and tf doesn't matter at all
1. bars do not matter. the drawing is precise (I include the low and the high of a bar because that is price also - there are orders in wicks)
2. Nothing to do with velocity. Angle lines are not at all reliable. There is a thread somewhere in here about angle of MA's. Look that up because someone (a high rated member) gave an excellent explanation why angles do not work.

You just found another way that do not work. Pay attention and try again There is no wrong answer if it takes you on the right path in the end.
  • #126
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:16am Jan 31, 2015 9:16am
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} is one trolling? -this is FF don't forget FC


sorry, but I have asked pinktrade, even if he didn't answer me.
FXcube
  • #127
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:18am Jan 31, 2015 9:18am
Quoting cycle
how i see this as a completed cycle..... {image}
Just a coincidence but cycles are there somewhere... not as important as equilibrium and other things that I will show but quite necessary for any trader. Cycles are misunderstood by many.
  • #128
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:21am Jan 31, 2015 9:21am
Quoting Forexcube
Hi Pinktrade, why didn't you upload a real trading account, that all here could follow your "trading consistently for profits"-ideas? Kindest regards! FXcube
Would it help your trading to see where are my entries and exits?
You do not have to reverse engineer my method. If you wait, I will give it to you
  • #129
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:23am Jan 31, 2015 9:23am
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} is one trolling? -this is FF don't forget FC
Hi 60min,

I don;t know if you are the same guy/girl as in my head but I have seen some of your videos !? Appreciate your approach to trading. Thanks for posting here.
Also, I am ashamed but do not know what FC is ...

Hope you will not be right about trolling...don't like trolls. Let's wait and see.
  • #130
  • Jan 31, 2015 9:56am Jan 31, 2015 9:56am
[quote=pinktrade;8037191]
Quoting istvan
{quote} Like I said ... no. Let me shed some light. I looked for your presented chart (E/U M5) and here it is: - please remember I do not base my entries on equilibrium, it is a coincidence that in the following chart it coincides with an entry and the start of a trend. {image}
SO bars dont metter, Lines dont metter i see a double top but it actually also dont metter or im i wrong ? Thanks :-)
Start of trend ok and how did you predict a start of the new trend Candelstick patterns ? Thanks :-)
And i still dont think that those tvo moves are the same im sorry
  • #131
  • Jan 31, 2015 10:59am Jan 31, 2015 10:59am
Quoting pinktrade
{quote} Would it help your trading to see where are my entries and exits? You do not have to reverse engineer my method. If you wait, I will give it to you

This I have expected ...to let someone treat you like a dormant!
It's turning the world upside down.
dated-MEGALOMANIA!
effectu secuto!
FXcube
  • #132
  • Jan 31, 2015 11:11am Jan 31, 2015 11:11am
Quoting pinktrade
{quote} Hi kinspk, I will answer that question in due time. Is quite important, that is why I asked. Probably not you but I am sure I will see some disproving posts and comments regarding that answer. I don't like the moves during news. News are unpredictable. My SL is very small. I do not need the headache of trading during news because I have the rest of the day. I maximize profits exactly by waiting for the price to change direction or cool down. I do not want or sometimes have the time to be in a trade for, let's say, hours. I always watch...
Thanks for responding, will wait in due time for your explanation on your previous question.

As for the chart I posted, price are not require, as I am trying to simplify it as much as possible. Most of the people who trade D/S usually have their zone at the top or bottom of a trend, but to me, it can occur differently. And for you to know whether are there any demands, obviously the bull candles already reflected it. If there are no demands, it will be ranging, or in another case, demand = supply, it will also range.
The only winner is the one who survive the longest...
  • #133
  • Jan 31, 2015 11:22am Jan 31, 2015 11:22am
Quoting pinktrade
{quote} 1. bars do not matter. the drawing is precise (I include the low and the high of a bar because that is price also - there are orders in wicks) 2. Nothing to do with velocity. Angle lines are not at all reliable. There is a thread somewhere in here about angle of MA's. Look that up because someone (a high rated member) gave an excellent explanation why angles do not work. You just found another way that do not work. Pay attention and try again There is no wrong answer if it takes you on the right path in the end.
Again thanks for rectifying the answers are wrong, and that make me curious what you trying to infer on your chart posted. Hopefully you can quench our curiosity soon.

I don't use the methods above mentioned, but I believe all methods work and don't work depend on how much a trader understand how market works. Just because a high impact person posted about it doesn't work doesn't necessary mean it doesn't. Eg, a person who doesn't know how to drive will claim the vehicle unable to transport him to his destination. Just like, I am also on the right path, but I take it as an open mind at other's strategy and method to find a better, quicker, efficient path to a destinations, as there is no one way road to our destination.
The only winner is the one who survive the longest...
  • #134
  • Jan 31, 2015 12:08pm Jan 31, 2015 12:08pm
Quoting pinktrade
{quote} Hi 60min, I don;t know if you are the same guy/girl as in my head but I have seen some of your videos !? Appreciate your approach to trading. Thanks for posting here. Also, I am ashamed but do not know what FC is ... Hope you will not be right about trolling...don't like trolls. Let's wait and see.
Lay out what you want to say quickly to avoid confusion... good luck
tradewith60
  • #135
  • Jan 31, 2015 12:21pm Jan 31, 2015 12:21pm
Subscribed. Always interested in people who have a different perspective to trading as no future in running with the herd. Your system or methodology obviously works for you so well done for developing it and being profitable. Participate in many online forums most about cars which is my real passion. FF continues to amaze and disappoint in equal measures. None of us are children here that need to be saved from a scammer. Props to you for taking the time and effort to start this thread and share your learnings. What works for you won't work for everyone as we all have different trading personalities.
Audentes Fortuna Juvat
  • #136
  • Jan 31, 2015 12:44pm Jan 31, 2015 12:44pm
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} Lay out what you want to say quickly to avoid confusion... good luck
Yup u right ,,, im waiting since yesterday for something and he had made 100 posts but still has not bring more light to this ´´system or method´´ whatever is it .
  • #137
  • Jan 31, 2015 12:48pm Jan 31, 2015 12:48pm
This is getting more and more misterious...don´t know if Pink´s got the holy grail, but he sure managed to get a bunch of people hooked..it´s fun...
  • #138
  • Jan 31, 2015 1:45pm Jan 31, 2015 1:45pm
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} So you saying that trader who is not going to understand it is better to leave trading ?? Dont take this like some kind of attack Its just my feeling you know this looks like u are a Genius or someone with huge Ego ´?. Because i dont think that people like,,, Hosada , Williams ,Bollinger , even SonicR guy Etc... Had sayed somethink like if this not going to work for u Just quit .. And those are people who have maked systems or indicators like Ichimoku ,, BB , Alligator, CCI etc.. And those systems/indicators works and lot of retail or...
i think you misunderstand what he means about that.

Pinktrade is telling us that his system is so effective that anyone not able to be profitable using it, is just not trader material. you need the right head state after all. if you always close a winner early you will never be profitable.
  • #139
  • Jan 31, 2015 2:00pm Jan 31, 2015 2:00pm
Quoting WeeMee
{quote} i think you misunderstand what he means about that. Pinktrade is telling us that his system is so effective that anyone not able to be profitable using it, is just not trader material. you need the right head state after all. if you always close a winner early you will never be profitable.
SO effective that not anyone can be in profit oh come on that is stupid sentence

Of course is bad thing to cut off profit but im sure that is not what is he try to say , that is one of the basic rules of trading --

And if this super ultra systém is so effective why do i dont see any chart ? explorer ? etc.. or even chart
  • #140
  • Jan 31, 2015 2:26pm Jan 31, 2015 2:26pm
Quoting pinktrade
If a trader understands the equilibrium of a market, how is it achieved and determined, it almost immediately knows how to benefit from it. The image below will show you (a random picked example) of what equilibrium is in the market. This balanced moves are on the charts at all times. And for those that will eventually come to understand this, will be very clear how the markets are not random and can be traded very profitable. {image}

this is not equilibrium

your yellow line at best is a reversal , which either results in a retracement of a downmove or finds resistance somewaht near the top of the red line...
which may result in a form of range/balance/equibilirium..


at best this is..
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whearas , the mean/midpoint .. is considered fair price.... ie. most traders agree on price...

a trend is NOT equibilirium.. its imbalance.. sure enough...
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