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  • #81
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:49am Jan 31, 2015 7:49am
[quote=pinktrade;8035551]The image below will show you (a random picked example) of what equilibrium is in the market.
My observation in the given uptrend example : First there is a swing high Fib 100%. Then followed by a Fib 61.8 retrace in 6 bars. Then it takes the same number of bars (6) to retrace the last swing back to Fib 50%. After that there is a short period (in this example 4 bars) for consolidation followed by a ranging period before the uptrend resumes.
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  • #82
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:51am Jan 31, 2015 7:51am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} Hi, why do you think that the two moves are in equilibrium/are equal in this plot? k
Hey kprsa, good question. I should have started with the logic and how I discovered the equilibrium but that was too much in a thread I wanted to keep to a minimum. So, the question is valid and a very good one but the answer take a while. I will try to explain that in a different thread probably for those interested in the logic (as I see you are and I appreciate that very much).
  • #83
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:51am Jan 31, 2015 7:51am
Pinktrade, i like your "multi dimensional" market thing, and the equilibrium too (they are deeply connected).

For some reason certain knowledge is not public (only a few got it), good thread by the way.
  • #84
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:52am Jan 31, 2015 7:52am
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} Good question . I also don't see it.
If you would saw it from the image I posted you would have found it by now, trust me
  • #85
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:54am Jan 31, 2015 7:54am
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  • #86
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:55am Jan 31, 2015 7:55am
RULE of THUMB: please try not to make fun or trash other member's posts and questions because I don't like that. I want everybody to be able to follow this thread without interruptions and distractions.
I will be glad to ban anyone from the thread if they start to trash other members.
  • #87
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:57am Jan 31, 2015 7:57am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} I count 8 and 6 candles, in the left (yellow) and right (red) moves, respectively, so this is probably not the solution of the puzzle. I guess the best is to let pinktrade give more examples when it will be convenient for him/her... k
Thanks for that explanation Kprsa. Your explanation is quite correct. Not the solution.
  • #88
  • Jan 31, 2015 7:59am Jan 31, 2015 7:59am
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} Do you mean Number of bars between the Grid from left to right line ? . Its seven overall at this chart .. Im sorry maybe im toooo stupid but i really dont see any similarity at all
It doesn't mean you are stupid. If you will pay attention to the thread and try to think you will see it.
  • #89
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:00am Jan 31, 2015 8:00am
Quoting alexx90
How is made a bar? A bar is made of 4 reference points (open, high, low, close). What are these things? They are price. From open and close there are prices, from high and low there are prices. In the end there is price. You can take any reference point and from there you can build your candle. The action of buyers and sellers is a zero sum, even if the price moves 20 pips down and then 10 pips up, the result is a zero sum. Better ideas are welcome on the table. Alex
ALex, you must be on the thinkers team

I quite expect you to understand very fast as seen in your posts.
  • #90
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:01am Jan 31, 2015 8:01am
Quoting Petr.K
But what is relevant in this case ? Im looking at this chart again and again i see just up trend channel And if that is a situation where u can actually somehow trade . Its just uptrend , Dont think that u need to take care about those ´´equal / same Moves ´´ {image}
Please don't make your charts messy with lines . Not channels. Nothing to do with trend.
  • #91
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:02am Jan 31, 2015 8:02am
Quoting aud
pinktrade, you said all the right words on page one. You need to move on with charts and examples and walk us through it. Otherwise you'll spend all your time answering questions and you will lose control of the timing and order of your thread.
Maybe you are right but cannot ignore the questions of others in the thread. I always like to keep everything clean that is why I am answering in chronological order.
  • #92
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:04am Jan 31, 2015 8:04am
Quoting Kanzler
I was going to write some long reply to this but I'm just going to condense it to this: The market isn't this simple. It'd be nice if it were, but it's not.
Hello Kanzler, indeed the market is not simple, otherwise everybody could trade it. I might say it's quite clever as it is That is why a simple colored squiggly line indicator (or 10) will never solve it.
  • #93
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:06am Jan 31, 2015 8:06am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} I know its meaningless, specially in the absence of Volume data. I was just looking for some similarities between the two moves, and this is what I could find. Anyway, lets assume the red move is equal to the yellow move, what's next?. Red move is a down move, yellow is an up move, so if market reached equilibrium state after the up move , shouldn't the next move be a Down move ? In the referenced chart it was also an Up move, so why the market goes for another up move after reaching "equilibrium" on the 1st up move? And if we can not decide...
Also in the thinker team
I couldn't start with the end of the thread or the solution. This is not Star Wars
The equilibrium is just the start, or as they say "The tip of the iceberg".
Have patience.
  • #94
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:09am Jan 31, 2015 8:09am
Quoting wasabeclaw
the red one retraces approximately 50% of the previous movement and the yellow one that follows it retraces approximately 50% of the red movement WD Gann/ Andrew Pitchfork 50% back to equilibrium principle
As much as I respect all the predecessors like Gann or Andrew, there is always a secret in their methods which very few spoke of. Nothing to do with 50% retrace of the previous moves.

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I might say that a lot of ideas are thrown to the table in a very short time and I quite like the way you all think out of the box.
  • #95
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:12am Jan 31, 2015 8:12am
Quoting pinktrade
Quite busy this weekend but I have opened the computer to check on the thread and I was amazed to see all the replies while I was away. I will try to take the questions in the thread and email one by one as there is already too much. Feel free to post your questions in the thread for everybody to see or to send email if you are shy. Thanks everybody for the emails you sent...It will take some time to read all the emails from you There is a problem I have observed in a couple of emails which I don't like at all but will get back to that a little...
Hi pinktrtade,

I don't know what those problems are, but you are just getting started, so expect more to come. Put your back to the wall & when your
time allows get on with sharing what you have to share. Forget the naysayers & the negatives & move on with sharing your
knowledge. There will be many more willing to listen & learn than there will be naysayers. You now have the ears of many that
are open minded & willing to learn from you. I admire you willingness to share with others what some would never know about
if it was not for those willing to share. I wish you the best.
  • #96
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:13am Jan 31, 2015 8:13am
Quoting acetrader
{quote} I am inclined to agree with you on this, but I would like to give pinktrade the floor to fully explain what he is doing. Now will he share completely everything that he has learned is the big question? I do not know, but I am willing to listen & learn if he is willing to share. This forum has several threads similar to this one that started out trying to help others & then suddenly the thread founder disappears, or finds himself banned. Willl that happen to this thread? I don't know, but time will tell. Pinktrade has already stated he is...
Appreciate your post. You are right about other threads stopped because of members trashing it for not being to their liking or thread starters giving up trying to teach something really useful. I also hope it will not happen to this one as I still have some energy left even after 2 days ~100 posts.

You are also right that some solutions work for some traders and not for others. Not the case here.
For the ones that this will not work: quit trading. I mean it!
  • #97
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:15am Jan 31, 2015 8:15am
Quoting cycle
{quote} Sharp observation. I agree with what you said. Been witness to many threads since 2007 (starting with Trading in 8 pairs by Cornelius2). However some threads really had worthwhile info shared halfway before being closed due to negative posts or sudden reluctance of thread starter to share more info when few participants started having winners. So lets see....
Hope not to invest my time for nothing in this thread and let it get trashed.
  • #98
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:17am Jan 31, 2015 8:17am
Quoting ziga992
{quote} " at some point the central bank or some large corporation might buy that euro for it's own use...... who lost money..... no one...... " In that case consumers who face slight increase in infaltion are the one who lost their money - measured in buying power not nominal. In case of corporations the loss is seen in lower profits.
EXCELLENT thinking with buying power. Also probably you will learn this fast.
Good to have you here.
  • #99
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:19am Jan 31, 2015 8:19am
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Cycle you are so right. Some probablyy did have good helpful information to share, but their efforts were killed by all the negative posters that can invade a thread at times. Then their are those that stopped posting for other reasons such as realizing they may be giving away the goose that lays the golden eggs, or they were scolled by their peers for attempting to share with the masses what is really happening in the markets. Then their are some that simply just became tired of the time needed to keep a thread going. There was a thread...
Thank you for posting Ace!
Cycles are to give you an idea.
Indeed there was at least one other thread extremely hint full. Oh well, it;s gone now and probably very very few understood at least a little bit.
  • #100
  • Jan 31, 2015 8:21am Jan 31, 2015 8:21am
[quote=istvan;8036994]
Quoting pinktrade
The image below will show you (a random picked example) of what equilibrium is in the market. My observation in the given uptrend example : First there is a swing high Fib 100%. Then followed by a Fib 61.8 retrace in 6 bars. Then it takes the same number of bars (6) to retrace the last swing back to Fib 50%. After that there is a short period (in this example 4 bars) for consolidation followed by a ranging period before the uptrend resumes. {image}
Hi Istvan, sorry to tell that is not it either. Continue to think. There are a lot of wrong ways until you find the truth. I remember a quote: "I haven't failed. Just found 1000 ways that do not work." (to my shame I can't quite remember from whom)
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