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  • #15,301
  • Jun 21, 2013 7:46pm Jun 21, 2013 7:46pm
Quoting yesIknow
This is good! As I said, I do not know how to post charts, nor how to write notes on them (perhaps someone can point me in the right direction?).
Here is how you attach charts: http://www.forexfactory.com/userguide.php#forum_attach

To save a chart you can either take a screenshot, or you can right click on your chart and 'Save as a Picture'. Writing notes on the saved picture depends on what software you use. You can get away with MS Paint that comes with Windoze. I use Photoshop, but there is plenty of free software available that will do the job
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #15,302
  • Jun 21, 2013 7:47pm Jun 21, 2013 7:47pm
Some really good trading going here....well done everyone.....I just love it when we take the banks money!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #15,303
  • Jun 21, 2013 8:53pm Jun 21, 2013 8:53pm
  •  Jamz
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Tops and bottoms are for bikinis | 798 Posts
Quoting realjumper
Some really good trading going here....well done everyone.....I just love it when we take the banks money!!
Even I managed 50 pips off UJ which made my day! I have been trading out way too soon to add to my account which has become a bad habit - it results in leaving far too much on the table. I'm hoping I took the Swiss Bank's afternoon tea money!

On with the homework - no, not vacuuming or dusting - scrolling through some charts and checking out Thomask's template which looks very interesting and something that might help those in need of discipline......
  • #15,304
  • Jun 21, 2013 10:21pm Jun 21, 2013 10:21pm
  •  Jamz
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Tops and bottoms are for bikinis | 798 Posts
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Change the settings under the 'Inputs' tab to whatever you like..... You have the correct window there....just set TimeFrame1.Period to what you want, and the same for the TimeFrame2.Period....and set TimeFrame.Auto to false
Thanks RJ, this was helpful -- keep the heater going!!! BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
  • #15,305
  • Jun 23, 2013 3:29am Jun 23, 2013 3:29am
Hey, RJ, hope you don't mind if I post this from a different thread. I remember this one every time I see you boot another butthead outta here. Just remember, when you boot them, you are helping yourself (sanity) and you may actually be helping them. Read on!

-quote (from ak47dan2004)

Hey everyone I would like to take the time to personally thank (thread starter) he has helped more than I could even say. Let me begin by saying that when I first started reading this thread I thought it was one of those systems that was going to work for a while and then I would look at something else. Hell I was even dumb enough to vote it down in the poll(something I'm not proud of by the way) I even made it onto his ignore list which came back to bite me in the ass lol. I didn't know it yet but this would turn out to help me in the end. It helped me because after I was put on ignore I couldn't post or ask questions in the thread so what did I do? I started reading from the first page and while reading I would come up with questions but I still couldn't post. I finally caught up and out of nowhere I see a post by him that said I am clearing out my ignore list(Safe to say I was like hell yeah it is time to get educated and that I did) During the time I was reading I was also demoing until I became comfortable. His system allowed me to trade at work even when I didn't have a lot of time to analyze the whole market and thats when things started changing. I started dedicating more time to trading and noticed I wasn't losing and it really did freak me out. I decided I needed a vacation so I took a 3 week vacation and all I did was trade. My results were insane and I am now glad to say that my last day of work was July 12, 2011. I have never looked back and actually I have never had to all because he was nice enough to share his system. Thank you (thread starter) for changing my life for the better and helping me understand everything. Thanks for the tips and tricks you have taught me they will never be forgotten. Thanks again
-end quote

P.S. RJ and anyone else, IMO if you see someone posting that CLEARLY has not read post #1 or anything except that last post, and isn't ready for trading... DON'T REPLY! You are wasting your time. On the 3rd stupid post, BOOT! Maybe they'll end up like Dan!
  • #15,306
  • Jun 23, 2013 4:58am Jun 23, 2013 4:58am
Quoting ericjschroed
Hey, RJ, hope you don't mind if I post this from a different thread. I remember this one every time I see you boot another butthead outta here. Just remember, when you boot them, you are helping yourself (sanity) and you may actually be helping them. Read on! -quote (from ak47dan2004) Hey everyone I would like to take the time to personally thank (thread starter) he has helped more than I could even say. Let me begin by saying that when I first started reading this thread I thought it was one of...
Thanks for that Eric....that was a good read. As it happens, I do notice one or two people lurking even though they can not post to our thread, so I hope they are reading and learning something
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #15,307
  • Jun 23, 2013 8:16am Jun 23, 2013 8:16am
Quoting thomasK
{quote} I have mentioned that I trade only indices (yesterday dow went more than 300 pips straight down, extremely hard to trade it ), but out of respect to this thread I will attach a UJ chart (nothing to do with me) just to make my comments clear. If you ask me what do you trade M5 or M15? I will reply M5. But someone could call it M15. Let us see why: Looking at my tempate you see: 1. M5 matrix 2. Three arrows (M5, M15, M30). As I said before it is not (for me) critical to wait for all of them to close. Even if they are alligned for at...
Could you provide your template for download here please?
  • #15,308
  • Jun 23, 2013 10:03am Jun 23, 2013 10:03am
Good morning friends ... I am Brazilian and this new forum. This week I hope to be watching all Trades.
  • #15,309
  • Jun 23, 2013 12:24pm Jun 23, 2013 12:24pm
Quoting Robinho
Good morning friends ... I am Brazilian and this new forum. This week I hope to be watching all Trades.
Welcome Robinho ... I am Italian.
Your timing to join the thread is perfect ... just after the Confederation match between our teams
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #15,310
  • Jun 23, 2013 12:29pm Jun 23, 2013 12:29pm
Quoting tikku
{quote} Could you provide your template for download here please?
tikku,

try this one should be the same.
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File Type: tpl wiz_genesis_thomas_simple.tpl   91 KB | 653 downloads
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
  • #15,311
  • Jun 23, 2013 1:08pm Jun 23, 2013 1:08pm
Quoting wiz3003
{quote} tikku, try this one should be the same. {file}
Dear Wiz

thanks for the template.
There is a difference though to what I use from the one you posted.
You have used on stoch tape the parameters as seen below. I use the default parameters of 11-3-0-1
The results can be seen at the screen shot I attached. You have a "down signal" on H1 tape where I have an "up signal".

I do not say mine is the correct and the other is wrong.
I just say how I use it.
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  • #15,312
  • Edited 2:34pm Jun 23, 2013 1:54pm | Edited 2:34pm
ah got it.
Some arrows with alert would be fine when all values show green light.
any ideas where to get them?
  • #15,313
  • Jun 23, 2013 2:03pm Jun 23, 2013 2:03pm
Hi Thomas,

this is very strange because on my chart the tape signal is UP. I tried to study the Xaphod's algorithm to understand the reason why but without success.... maybe he can help us.

Concerning the different settings it is just a personal preference. Take into account that MAMethod = 3 was a my mistake but it doesn't seem to influence much the tape;instead the PriceField makes the difference (at least with me). I try to have the stoch which doesn't go flat on top or bottom of the range to interppret it better at least from a visual standpoint.

Attached my chart same time where you can look at my yape and the different stoch behavior when you set 1 or 0 in the Pricefield.

During the week end I tested your idea which I am sure is very interesting but I belong to the old school (due to my age) and I prefer to look at the analogic signals


ciao

wiz
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  • #15,314
  • Jun 23, 2013 3:33pm Jun 23, 2013 3:33pm
Thanks alot for this great thread. Found all I needed. I´ll start to demo it tomorrow.
  • #15,315
  • Jun 23, 2013 5:27pm Jun 23, 2013 5:27pm
Quoting tikku
{quote} Could you provide your template for download here please?
Just a bit of friendly advice for you.....as it CLEARLY says in Post #1:

"All the necessary indicators and a template are supplied for you in a zip file at the bottom of this post.

You may also use any of the additional indicators from the Genesis System Tools thread as developed for us by Xaphod."

Instead of asking other people to "provide" for you....."provide" for yourself. Thomas is using only the tools via this thread or the additional tools from the Genesis System Tools and his template can be recreated easily IF you just try......and you will learn a lot if you make an effort.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #15,316
  • Jun 23, 2013 5:41pm Jun 23, 2013 5:41pm
Quoting thomasK
{quote} I have mentioned that I trade only indices (yesterday dow went more than 300 pips straight down, extremely hard to trade it ), but out of respect to this thread I will attach a UJ chart (nothing to do with me) just to make my comments clear. If you ask me what do you trade M5 or M15? I will reply M5. But someone could call it M15. Let us see why: Looking at my tempate you see: 1. M5 matrix 2. Three arrows (M5, M15, M30). As I said before it is not (for me) critical to wait for all of them to close. Even if they are alligned for at...

I can see why you like the stoch tape on your charts Thomas, and I have spent a lot of time over the weekend testing your method over various currencies. I have to agree with Wiz3003 here though, the original stochastic gives much information that just isn't available via the stoch tape. I've said this many time before, but I will say it again....the stochastic oscillator is more than a simple oversold/overbought indicator, and I feel that a lot of vital information is lost if it's treated in that way, or if it using as a 'rising/falling' indicator. If the #MTF stochs are placed on the chart with the same settings as your stoch tape settings, I believe that you are going to be considerably better off with the #MTF stochs simple because they 'tell the whole story' of what is going on, rather than the 'condensed story.'

However.....I do see why you like it, but for me, I don't see it as a step forward....I prefer to see the stoch lines and gauge the market action and strength with the more complete information provided by the traditional stochastic indicator.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #15,317
  • Jun 23, 2013 7:02pm Jun 23, 2013 7:02pm
Quoting wiz3003
Hi Thomas, this is very strange because on my chart the tape signal is UP. I tried to study the Xaphod's algorithm to understand the reason why but without success.... maybe he can help us. Concerning the different settings it is just a personal preference. Take into account that MAMethod = 3 was a my mistake but it doesn't seem to influence much the tape;instead the PriceField makes the difference (at least with me).
Not sure what I'm supposed to do.

The tape draws the slope up/overbought or slope down/oversold of the main stoch signal.
You can put the Stoch-MTF on the chart with the same settings to verify the tape signal.

The red tape signal when the price is shooting up looks wrong. It is not there in your last screen shot. A glitch?
  • #15,318
  • Jun 23, 2013 10:04pm Jun 23, 2013 10:04pm
In case you missed what I said before, I will be trading M15 for 4 weeks and posting the results at the end of the test. I will post trades as and when I can.

Here is my first, and yes, it is in mid Tokyo session but the trend is down and this is the first M15 signal on EU. The lower stoch is #mtf30 btw.....
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  • #15,319
  • Edited Jun 24, 2013 12:57am Jun 23, 2013 11:09pm | Edited Jun 24, 2013 12:57am
Excellent Thomask, Kudos to you!
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #15,320
  • Jun 24, 2013 12:48am Jun 24, 2013 12:48am
Quoting realjumper
In case you missed what I said before, I will be trading M15 for 4 weeks and posting the results at the end of the test. I will post trades as and when I can. Here is my first, and yes, it is in mid Tokyo session but the trend is down and this is the first M15 signal on EU. The lower stoch is #mtf30 btw..... {image}
The trade is still alive but not looking to great at this moment.....the SL is at 25 pips (over the swing high) so we'll see where this goes. First trade of many in M15, so early days!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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