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  • #9,721
  • Edited 3:48pm Jul 9, 2020 3:28pm | Edited 3:48pm
Quoting info4saeed
{quote} I had two options. Either I had to wait for someone to make a pin so that I wouldn't make fake signal or I would learn to create it myself. Do you agree or would you like to make the first pin?
You are a PIN maker with low experience with DSB and PINs, right?
You make the PINs and share without test and waiting for response from testers, right?
I am a tester and I've got more VPS for tests
I run only momentum PIN setups on one of them.
I try to show the problem/BUG in your systems. (Like a bughunter)

I try to ask you who can make PINs and indicators, that:
- pls don't try to make a building if your last 3 completle destroyed. Please change on something in the basic of the buildings and after a change you can wait another result than before in all cases

Now this "concrete"(the key for upgrade) which can hold your materials in one: the signal delay.

like JAGz TDI PIN for example there you can set:
- current candle (it can be a false signal like in your BUT it can be a current good signal)
- last candle (it is better than current it will shows you more trustable signal after previous candle closed)


*UPDATE: when I say false signal at TDI for example it can be about RSI cross in there. You can see on chart indi when a big candle move up and down and you get signal from tdi cross and signal disappear....and there is again.....dis... so thats why need the last candle option
  • #9,722
  • Edited 4:04pm Jul 9, 2020 3:41pm | Edited 4:04pm
Quoting info4saeed
A suggestion for help: Look at this picture. I have used two indicators. Momentum and season with one hour time frame Both must signal to open a position. The condition of the seasonal signal is that it be between zero and the accuracy number (0.15) You can change this value. Please share your opinion {file} {file} {file} {file} {image}

Another thing for this:

I think your MOMENTUM PIN doesnt send signal continuously.
I think your entry point should be there
But that is the problem with repaint stuff is that your TRUE entry points can be anywhere:/
Becouse you cant see after repaint.

If you add this momentum to a trustable indicator like STOCH you can get good entries maybe. I test it now with DSB

*UPDATE: my first and last circle maybe wrong I don't checked the 0.15 line yet.
But this is whatever becouse true arrows are not only there as we experienced.
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  • #9,723
  • Jul 9, 2020 4:50pm Jul 9, 2020 4:50pm
Quoting jposmak
not a bad entry on 5m {image} {image}
bro can you share this EAX dashboard template plz .
  • #9,724
  • Jul 9, 2020 5:16pm Jul 9, 2020 5:16pm
Quoting Szomihu
{quote} You are a PIN maker with low experience with DSB and PINs, right? You make the PINs and share without test and waiting for response from testers, right? I am a tester and I've got more VPS for tests I run only momentum PIN setups on one of them. I try to show the problem/BUG in your systems. (Like a bughunter) I try to ask you who can make PINs and indicators, that: - pls don't try to make a building if your last 3 completle destroyed. Please change on something in the basic of the buildings and after a change you can wait another result...
I always said I had no claims. I haven't worked at Forex for a long time. I am trying to keep my hope that I can use it as another income.
Feedback on pins has not been given to me to date. It's hard to work on code, not all indicators have the features needed to be pinned.
In this ship, I am just one of hundreds of people paddling. I will try to do what you want me to do, and I appreciate your cooperation, because my goal in sharing pins is to know that if it doesn't work, and if one day one of the pins was right, everyone will benefit from it.
At the bottom pins, I added a field that indicates how many back shifts to check.
I've said before that I'll just add the PIN settings on the indicator and try not to touch the contents of the indicator code, so if the signal is off or not, it doesn't matter if it's PIN.
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  • #9,725
  • Jul 9, 2020 5:37pm Jul 9, 2020 5:37pm
And also I checked that the pin sends a signal continuously, and as you can see in the pictures, the condition is executed and controlled once every 5 seconds, and if the condition is not met, it will send an empty signal.
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  • #9,726
  • Jul 9, 2020 10:18pm Jul 9, 2020 10:18pm
Quoting info4saeed
{quote} I always said I had no claims. I haven't worked at Forex for a long time. I am trying to keep my hope that I can use it as another income. Feedback on pins has not been given to me to date. It's hard to work on code, not all indicators have the features needed to be pinned. In this ship, I am just one of hundreds of people paddling. I will try to do what you want me to do, and I appreciate your cooperation, because my goal in sharing pins is to know that if it doesn't work, and if one day one of the pins was right, everyone will benefit...
friend what better configuration do I put for M1? because it is very good for binary options
  • #9,727
  • Jul 9, 2020 10:32pm Jul 9, 2020 10:32pm
Quoting info4saeed
A suggestion for help: Look at this picture. I have used two indicators. Momentum and season with one hour time frame Both must signal to open a position. The condition of the seasonal signal is that it be between zero and the accuracy number (0.15) You can change this value. Please share your opinion {file} {file} {file} {file} {image}
friend what better configuration do I put for M1? because it is very good for binary options
  • #9,728
  • Jul 9, 2020 11:36pm Jul 9, 2020 11:36pm
Quoting info4saeed
A suggestion for help: Look at this picture. I have used two indicators. Momentum and season with one hour time frame Both must signal to open a position. The condition of the seasonal signal is that it be between zero and the accuracy number (0.15) You can change this value. Please share your opinion {file} {file} {file} {file} {image}

friend why does he stop sampling the signals the arrows?
friend why does he stop sampling the signals the arrows?
  • #9,729
  • Jul 10, 2020 12:56am Jul 10, 2020 12:56am
Quoting info4saeed
And also I checked that the pin sends a signal continuously, and as you can see in the pictures, the condition is executed and controlled once every 5 seconds, and if the condition is not met, it will send an empty signal. {image} {image} {image}

I will check and test it.
Thanks for update
  • #9,730
  • Jul 10, 2020 2:15am Jul 10, 2020 2:15am
Quoting info4saeed
And also I checked that the pin sends a signal continuously, and as you can see in the pictures, the condition is executed and controlled once every 5 seconds, and if the condition is not met, it will send an empty signal. {image} {image} {image}
I did not check the momentum pin. But I can see now you are going to go in the right direction. Every indicator sends false signals and thats why everyone is struggling to find the best. But adding options to control can be helpful to minimize the falseness. Levi and Jagz are doing like that.
"Don't Predict, Do react"
  • #9,731
  • Jul 10, 2020 2:45am Jul 10, 2020 2:45am
Quoting info4saeed
A suggestion for help: Look at this picture. I have used two indicators. Momentum and season with one hour time frame Both must signal to open a position. The condition of the seasonal signal is that it be between zero and the accuracy number (0.15) You can change this value. Please share your opinion {file} {file} {file} {file} {image}

OOOpppssss... The momentum indicator is 100% repainting.
When I see nice indications in your snaps I was just curious. Put the indicator to 1M chart and then remember the arrow positions, go to another time frame and come back to 1M. Then you will see the repaint very easily. OR else you can watch 1M chart for few minutes. The arrow will ride on top of the candle wherever he goes.

Appreciate your programming skills. But dont waste time on re-painters.
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  • #9,732
  • Jul 10, 2020 2:50am Jul 10, 2020 2:50am
Quoting belie
{quote} OOOpppssss... The momentum indicator is 100% repainting. When I see nice indications in your snaps I was just curious. Put the indicator to 1M chart and then remember the arrow positions, go to another time frame and come back to 1M. Then you will see the repaint very easily. OR else you can watch 1M chart for few minutes. The arrow will ride on top of the candle wherever he goes. Appreciate your programming skills. But dont waste time on re-painters. {image}
The most useful advice anybody can receive. Nobody will build a profitable system using repainters. It's something widely proof here...
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #9,733
  • Jul 10, 2020 3:10am Jul 10, 2020 3:10am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} The most useful advice anybody can receive. Nobody will build a profitable system using repainters. It's something widely proof here...
Agreed! Technical trading uses the scientific method. The scientific method relies on repeatable results - not repaintable results!
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  • #9,734
  • Jul 10, 2020 4:41am Jul 10, 2020 4:41am
Quoting belie
{quote} OOOpppssss... The momentum indicator is 100% repainting. When I see nice indications in your snaps I was just curious. Put the indicator to 1M chart and then remember the arrow positions, go to another time frame and come back to 1M. Then you will see the repaint very easily. OR else you can watch 1M chart for few minutes. The arrow will ride on top of the candle wherever he goes. Appreciate your programming skills. But dont waste time on re-painters. {image}
I will be able to solve the problem when I first understand "Repainter" understanding, can anyone help me what does it mean ?
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  • #9,735
  • Jul 10, 2020 4:46am Jul 10, 2020 4:46am
Quoting info4saeed
{quote} I will be able to solve the problem when I first understand "Repainter" understanding, can anyone help me what does it mean ?
Repaint is when past drawing change when you reload tool. A misunderstanding about this is when people think current candle changes are repaint. That is not repaint since a opened candle always will change his price and evidently can modify tool signals. Repaint is always about closed candles because a closed price is immutable and never should change your tool representation
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #9,736
  • Jul 10, 2020 4:59am Jul 10, 2020 4:59am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Repaint is when past drawing change when you reload tool. A misunderstanding about this is when people think current candle changes are repaint. That is not repaint since a opened candle always will change his price and evidently can modify tool signals. Repaint is always about closed candles because a closed price is immutable and never should change your tool representation
Thanks , and how you avoid repainting in the code ?
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  • #9,737
  • Jul 10, 2020 5:02am Jul 10, 2020 5:02am
Quoting info4saeed
{quote} Thanks , and how you avoid repainting in the code ?
Its algorithm nature. Some just are impossible avoid it like cycles. Others can be avoided like ZZ and fractals but paying some delay. At the end all tools have same issue ( lag ). The trick for have anticipated signals is a... secret
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #9,738
  • Jul 10, 2020 5:04am Jul 10, 2020 5:04am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Its algorithm nature. Some just are impossible avoid it like cycles. Others can be avoided like ZZ and fractals but paying some delay. At the end all tools have same issue ( lag ). The trick for have anticipated signals is a... secret
I've always been successful at finding secrets
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  • #9,739
  • Jul 10, 2020 5:10am Jul 10, 2020 5:10am
One candle delay fractals. Real signal happens in histogram box ( open price ). If you see previous boxes I only have one wrong signal in last bull movement ( first blue box is profitable with right exits ). Its a small price for an one candle delay fractal. Signals never change when you reload tool
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  • #9,740
  • Jul 10, 2020 5:56am Jul 10, 2020 5:56am
Thank you guys, that's what I'm talking about.
Sry Saeed I didnt know that you dont understand what does repaint mean.
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