{quote} Kleva, ............................... Just to let you know Sam put his time and effort with huge researches and provide FREE Pins and his advises for all of us..............................
TTFN Merlyn
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- Nov 5, 2017 11:55am Nov 5, 2017 11:55am
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- Nov 5, 2017 12:15pm Nov 5, 2017 12:15pm
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{quote} If only this were true
Take what you can, give nothing back
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- Nov 5, 2017 12:17pm Nov 5, 2017 12:17pm
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Take what you can, give nothing back
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{quote} If only this were true
and I start to see it,..
then i notice that it has got an RsI or any another filter that i could never think of ,,,
And i say wow ... so i can do this too ? and i make my own strategy ...
After that, i remember of another Pin posted by him and reminds me that i can do it in a different way...
So i could say in the end that i have my own strategy .. I made it , but where did i get the ideas and inspiration from ?
There are coders here who make a project and don't even answer, and fair enough.. they say they are busy ... fair enough again ...no probs_
But we might appreciate when someone makes a projects and answers questions too, and Sam does that _
For me for example a pin can be so cool and good, but better if i like the coder who makes it, cos the pin will be more valuable (4me) ...
The person and personality behind the Pin is what makes it all so colorful and nice_ ;-)
The arriving better than the arrival, the journey has just started
{quote} it is.he shared enough free stuff and made a looooot of pins by request.ohh some you cant use them only in demo? i get it that you may not like it,but thats the purpose to test in demo
What I don't like are people who say one thing and do another.
1ST post in Sam's My EAX Dash Pins thread reads:
"06-03-2017 : because i see a lot of download with less strategy sharing ... i decided to give the live version exclusively to guys who share their strategies ... those pin are a lot of time and work ... you need them? and may be you love them ?! then share to have them ! .... you don't have time to test them ? offre me a vps and i will test setups for you ... you will be the first to share with ... and plz don't ask me for the live version ... when i will see you sharing a profitable setup, i will pm you with the live version ... you don't like this rule ? with all due respect, may be you need to avoid this thread! don't waste your time !"
I fully appreciate, and agree with, the sentiments expressed in the above paragraph but unfortunately when I received a PM from Sam it was to try and sell me a live version of the HGI pin, plus any others that I may want, that I had been testing and posting my results and set-ups on; not withstanding the fact that the creators of the HGI code have expressly forbidden that it should be used in any form of commercial application.
If Sam had said that he would help develop pins for anyone to use on a demo account but if they then wanted a live version that they would have to buy it then that would be fine, everybody knows where they stand and can choose to test and help develop any pins of their choosing. That would be the honest way of doing things.
Fortunately I do not need to avail myself of any of Sam's products but it will no doubt come as a nasty surprise to some unfortunate newbies who, having spent months developing a profitable strategy, discover that they will need to cough up $100 each for the vast majority of the pins they have been helping to develop when they want to go live.
Anyway, if Sam is selling his pins, as he clearly is, wouldn't it be more honest to have his thread in the Commercial section?
TTFN Merlyn
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- Edited 2:07pm Nov 5, 2017 1:43pm | Edited 2:07pm
{quote} Merlyn come on man, I see it this way,,, Sam proposes a new pin demo or live does not matter.. then i open it and I start to see it,.. then i notice that it has got an RsI or any another filter that i could never think of ,,, And i say wow ... so i can do this too ? and i make my own strategy ... After that, i remember of another Pin posted by him and reminds me that i can do it in a different way... So i could say in the end that i have my own strategy .. I made it , but where did i get the ideas and inspiration from ? There are coders...
I have never met you but have read a lot of your posts so I think that I understand you a little bit.
I believe you to be a very loving, caring person who will always give more than you will ever take and I have the utmost respect for you.
Live long and prosper
TTFN Merlyn
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- Nov 5, 2017 1:51pm Nov 5, 2017 1:51pm
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{quote} Hello Husky, What I don't like are people who say ...
his last rule to share only demo i really agree but i will add expiration as well
don get angry on me please.you know why coders are doing all this and is because is full of scammers around the steal tools and sell them with holy grail promises.Sam didnt promised any holy grail we must agree and i respect him for that.
Take what you can, give nothing back
{quote} you may have your point but from what i know Sam is involved in other different projects thats why you see him online not too often.also he may need to edit that first post i agree.about commercial ... well i dont think yet cos he have thread full of demo's and free stuff i didnt saw anyone yet sending money to Sam for any tool he posted here.i can bet he never really sold any of this as well.regarding hgi thing,for example MA is free anywhere in this forex world but if i make a complex coding work based on MA should i not put a price on...
If what you say is correct, and I am not suggesting that it is not, I wonder why I am the only person on FF who is expected to pay for their pins?
Although I also respect your opinion............................................you don't get a kiss
TTFN Merlyn
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- Edited 2:31pm Nov 5, 2017 2:03pm | Edited 2:31pm
{quote} you may have your point but from what i know Sam is involved in other different ....
with this news the thread will be About Sam2x!
{quote} Hello Husky, If what you say is correct, and I am not suggesting that it is not, I wonder why I am the only person on FF who is expected to pay for their pins? Although I also respect your opinion............................................you don't get a kiss
NB: what i'm demanding a contribution for, is the time i spend to search and coding i'm not proposing a holy grail ,and i even propose 50% off if you share a profitable setup.(now i'm banned hhhh )
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- Nov 5, 2017 2:26pm Nov 5, 2017 2:26pm
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- Nov 5, 2017 2:33pm Nov 5, 2017 2:33pm
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and that's unfortunately what happens when the coder gets put down by other people ...
typical example when coders don't feel to do anything for us anymore ...
Shouldn't there be perhaps a thread restricted only to those who gets free pins and Ea's whatever they get
and test them properly and interact with the coder ?
typical example when coders don't feel to do anything for us anymore ...
Shouldn't there be perhaps a thread restricted only to those who gets free pins and Ea's whatever they get
and test them properly and interact with the coder ?
The arriving better than the arrival, the journey has just started
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- Nov 5, 2017 2:36pm Nov 5, 2017 2:36pm
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The arriving better than the arrival, the journey has just started
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- Nov 5, 2017 2:38pm Nov 5, 2017 2:38pm
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{quote} I wonder why I am the only person on FF who is expected to pay for their pins?
Take what you can, give nothing back
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- Nov 5, 2017 2:43pm Nov 5, 2017 2:43pm
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{quote} you have absolutely right, at least the coder can code and test his work privately but the others ! they will not know that those stuff existe ! anyway ! live continue , never look back !
Try don't lose pants never...
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- Nov 5, 2017 2:49pm Nov 5, 2017 2:49pm
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If you ask me i say that any proven coder must never get commercial stamp on it cos most of them i know already shared a lot of free stuff and there are some people doing money with that and even selling that stuff undercover.if at some point any coder will start request a silly price for any tool i respect that 100% but for me a coder cant be taken as a commercial as none of them i know ever promissed a holy grail with their tools ,like most of the commercial guys are doing in fact in this forum.and many from that are in fact scammers with false promises.one thing i know for sure coders realy dont live with the money they might get for any of their tools here in FF.
i'm thinking to what beach to choose from cos there are plenty of them
{quote} The truth is seeing some coders/testers TEs soon they will go to the beach to enjoy the new life. This time looks things are serious...
Take what you can, give nothing back