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  • #3,421
  • Apr 13, 2016 12:53am Apr 13, 2016 12:53am
Quoting jonirrenicus
{quote} Same method with Grid step EA. Dragon knight is far more advanced than not only grid step EA but also Dragon expert EA.
Please explain how your system works, otherwise it's impossible to follow you.
  • #3,422
  • Apr 13, 2016 12:12pm Apr 13, 2016 12:12pm
Quoting Alberto_Jazz
Well, I'm looking to the bear wave started last Friday on USDCAD.... 3 figures in 2 days without retracement I don't think it could be possible to sustain this kind of movement with a grid system, even with Low Risk A settings...
Trade only balanced currencies - EUR/USD. Similar sized fundamentals behind both currencies. The CAD is a joke, losing 40% against the dollar within a year.


Keeping lowrisk limits is essential. a 1 pip / 1 $ / 10,000 $ ratio will double your account within a year with very little risk, if you know what you're doing. Since Jan 1'st, I got already 33% and by any standard this should be enough profit for one year. I'll stop the EA at 40%.

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Best regards, Zef
  • #3,423
  • Apr 13, 2016 12:23pm Apr 13, 2016 12:23pm
Quoting ZeF
{quote} Trade only balanced currencies - EUR/USD. Similar sized fundamentals behind both currencies. The CAD is a joke, losing 40% against the dollar within a year. Keeping lowrisk limits is essential. a 1 pip / 1 $ / 10,000 $ ratio will double your account within a year with very little risk, if you know what you're doing. Since Jan 1'st, I got already 33% and by any standard this should be enough profit for one year. I'll stop the EA at 40%. {image}

Very good, send your set please?
  • #3,424
  • Apr 13, 2016 12:37pm Apr 13, 2016 12:37pm
Quoting Romax
{quote} Very good, send your set please?
Here it is. Like I said earlier, don't expect it to emulate my results. It runs only from 17-21 GMT, but when there's red news or I just feel it's going to be volatile NY, I stop it. That's why you should not expect to have same results as me, because this EA is only helping me not to sit in front of computer while I run grids, and the discretion part of it is big and decisive.

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Best regards, Zef
  • #3,425
  • Apr 13, 2016 3:43pm Apr 13, 2016 3:43pm
Quoting ZeF
Keeping lowrisk limits is essential. a 1 pip / 1 $ / 10,000 $ ratio will double your account within a year with very little risk, if you know what you're doing. Since Jan 1'st, I got already 33% and by any standard this should be enough profit for one year. I'll stop the EA at 40%.
Well said Zef, my demo account is up 45% year to date with Low Risk A settings.

I started last week a real account with good results.

Why will you stop the EA at 40%?
  • #3,426
  • Apr 13, 2016 3:46pm Apr 13, 2016 3:46pm
Quoting aquasunboy
{quote} Why you are not making a new thread about your EA? Why must on another person's thread? Is your purpose to insult? Many of us have our own EA too but not to show on this thread because it isn't realte to this thread. This grid's EA have passed through many difficult situation to developed it. So if scumbags like you come to insult then i only laugh to you. Make your new thread about dragon knight EA if you are not scare because this room is not suit for your stupid purpose
LOL Found the same guy. Jonni strike again.

I already test this grid EA. Really nice result in 2 weeks, the 3rd weeks I increase the risk. And it cause the big DD. I should not be greedy though. Maybe keep the low risk. I could say is this EA is worth it, grid trading with fixed lot. Thank you radit for sharing the EA.
Risk comes from not knowing what you're doing.
  • #3,427
  • Apr 13, 2016 7:55pm Apr 13, 2016 7:55pm
Quoting ZeF
{quote} Here it is. Like I said earlier, don't expect it to emulate my results. It runs only from 17-21 GMT, but when there's red news or I just feel it's going to be volatile NY, I stop it. That's why you should not expect to have same results as me, because this EA is only helping me not to sit in front of computer while I run grids, and the discretion part of it is big and decisive. {file}


thank you so much...
  • #3,428
  • Apr 14, 2016 1:24am Apr 14, 2016 1:24am
Quoting Alberto_Jazz
{quote} Well said Zef, my demo account is up 45% year to date with Low Risk A settings. I started last week a real account with good results. Why will you stop the EA at 40%?
I'll stop it because I'll set up a mixed model account with different risk profiles. As we will see a drop in volatility over the summer months (except during the UK referendum fiasco), I am confident I can apply this mixed risk model to a single account. Anyway, as a means to keep greed in check, I won't set targets more than 50% of the account itself for the year.
Best regards, Zef
  • #3,429
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:07am Apr 17, 2016 5:07am
Quoting KnightForex
I've watched the subject from the beginning , Strategy almost like my EA , A better one cycle per day , But the difference that the Step is not fixed , Today started the experiment on a real account to make sure in the coming period, and then publish EA , I hope to continue in the development, a successful idea
Glad there's another same idea. Still got some ideas to improve it actually. But we'll see in a longer term.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,430
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:16am Apr 17, 2016 5:16am
Quoting jonirrenicus
Last ten days i focused on loss recovery, now i'm back. -3$ to break even.... Sarcastically, account grew up 150% by using recovery EA only. Should i use gridtrap anymore? My answer is NO. {image}
That's a uncomfortable comments anyway, but thanks for the inputs.
Yet we are still finding the best strategy on top of this. I can only suggest that the EA alone can't give you profit, but the strategy does. So far, I know that if we set at a lower lot size and target, it'll be always profitable about 100% yearly. But of course for some people it'll never be "acceptable" as they always set the bar too high.
I never guarantee you will be getting high profit with my EA anyway, and I never promised on it.

But really, appreciate for the inputs so far to improve this project.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,431
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:20am Apr 17, 2016 5:20am
Quoting hishamzz
Radityo, A small enhancement request to 1.9 Could you include one more parameter into the EA in which we could provide a series of dates (eg. 2015.04.04, 2015.04.15, 2015.04.30) comma separated of course which would indicate to the EA to completely ignore the trading session starting from those days. Example :- (1) Trading session is from 20:00 to 02:00 (2) Assume that the first week of April has week days as 4th April to 9th April (3) I enter 2015.04.05 as the date to ignore I expect the EA to trade in the 20:00 to 02:00 sessions on the 4th...
I got it implemented on v2.0 beta before. But I haven't re-applied it as I'm actually planning to put on v2.0. And v2.0 seems too far for releasing, so I'll include in v1.12 probably, or on v1.11 that is released today.

The mechanism is not using comma separated, too messy. I did to read the vertical line, and this vertical line has to be in pair. Allow me to implement this in a short period (the code is there already).
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,432
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:21am Apr 17, 2016 5:21am
Quoting keydcuk
Seems to be very nice work on this! I have really been into grid trading for couple months and where most grid trading has either failure or very slow profits, this is one that seems like a winning EA. I think I might try to get my head around this with its method and operation and have a play. Thanks for sharing and as well as your latest set file. This proves very interesting! Cheers! Daniel
While you feel that this interesting, I'm trying to figure out how to get out when got stucked. It seems still a genuine issue until today.
I'll post some more on my strategy that is implemented in Donation Box.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,433
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:55am Apr 17, 2016 5:55am
Quoting Sawaddee
Dear Radityo or anyone who knows the answer, I am using v1.8 with limit order type. I would like to know how to set up the EA so that once 1 order on Buy is opened then EA will closed all orders once it hit a sell order. How should I set up the v1.8 EA? Thank you in advance for the reply.
Were you expecting
LIMIT (you expect the price to go out of the grid then back to initial price and close profit) or
STOP (you expect the price to go out of the grid then keep trending and close profit)?
I assume you expect LIMIT.

You can set the Grid Step and Price Interval, and set the take profit accordingly such that it will close near the sell order. You can use the excel simulator on the EA download page to calculate how much profit when it reaches the sell order. That's all I can suggest.

Or another way, you can use Target Profit set to Target Based OR Min Profit Open Orders, and set Min Open Profit Orders = 2. But this has differences in terms of the mechanism. What it does is, it will close the cycle when it reaches Target Profit, or when at least 2 orders are in profit (even in $0 profit). So, when BUY executed and move down to SELL and execute the sell order, as soon as the SELL order is in profit (whether it's only $0) it will close all orders.

Up to you what to choose.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,434
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:59am Apr 17, 2016 5:59am
Quoting Alberto_Jazz
I gave a rapid look to the USDCAD daily chart and I saw that it's not an unusual movement for this cross. Probably it's a cross to avoid for grid trading, unless you're well capitalized and you can sustain a certain level of drawdown, or the grid step must be larger the EURUSD.
USDCAD is a damn enemy with LIMIT grid. I've got myself hard to find the right time to implement LIMIT, but it seems doesn't work. Can't find a good strategy for it. Probably I have to try using STOP instead in USDCAD.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,435
  • Apr 17, 2016 6:05am Apr 17, 2016 6:05am
Quoting dragonexpert
{quote} LOL Found the same guy. Jonni strike again. I already test this grid EA. Really nice result in 2 weeks, the 3rd weeks I increase the risk. And it cause the big DD. I should not be greedy though. Maybe keep the low risk. I could say is this EA is worth it, grid trading with fixed lot. Thank you radit for sharing the EA.
Well, hello red guy over there!
It's a good portfolio you have over there. Thanks for stopping by.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,436
  • Apr 17, 2016 8:46am Apr 17, 2016 8:46am
Quoting ZeF
{quote} I'll stop it because I'll set up a mixed model account with different risk profiles. As we will see a drop in volatility over the summer months (except during the UK referendum fiasco), I am confident I can apply this mixed risk model to a single account. Anyway, as a means to keep greed in check, I won't set targets more than 50% of the account itself for the year.
That is something that I wanted to share as well. This current method is the one that I'm doing right now in Donation Box. I know that EURUSD is vulnerable, so with others. But I know something, I have tested on backtest on a period of 1 year, everything went well without interruption. So, the idea is to cut the risk by half or 1/3, then spread the risk across different profiles / set files to different pair.

As you can see on my Donation Box, is now running with 3 pairs, planning to add another one which is NZDJPY. So all 4 pairs, running at mostly different time, with lesser risk.
So now what to do if one of the pair getting stuck? As long as it's not heading an Interest Rate news, or some news that is really "shifting" the price level, we need to stop the cycle for other pairs, giving this running pair a room for it to close until it is really closed. Once this pair closed, then I can start cycle for others.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #3,437
  • Apr 17, 2016 10:15am Apr 17, 2016 10:15am
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Glad there's another same idea. Still got some ideas to improve it actually. But we'll see in a longer term.
welcome back bro
  • #3,438
  • Apr 17, 2016 9:59pm Apr 17, 2016 9:59pm
Quoting ZeF
{quote} Here it is. Like I said earlier, don't expect it to emulate my results. It runs only from 17-21 GMT, but when there's red news or I just feel it's going to be volatile NY, I stop it. That's why you should not expect to have same results as me, because this EA is only helping me not to sit in front of computer while I run grids, and the discretion part of it is big and decisive. {file}
Thanks ZeF. It very steady growth. Please advise did you had any manual intervention for closing EA or closing trades.
  • #3,439
  • Apr 17, 2016 10:06pm Apr 17, 2016 10:06pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} That is something that I wanted to share as well. This current method is the one that I'm doing right now in Donation Box. I know that EURUSD is vulnerable, so with others. But I know something, I have tested on backtest on a period of 1 year, everything went well without interruption. So, the idea is to cut the risk by half or 1/3, then spread the risk across different profiles / set files to different pair. As you can see on my Donation Box, is now running with 3 pairs, planning to add another one which is NZDJPY. So all 4 pairs, running...
Hi Radityo!
Great!
Can you advise me what version of EA and which set file you use for three pairs in Donation Box. Which are the pairs you are using.
  • #3,440
  • Apr 18, 2016 12:25am Apr 18, 2016 12:25am
Quoting radadiya
{quote} Hi Radityo! Great! Can you advise me what version of EA and which set file you use for three pairs in Donation Box. Which are the pairs you are using.
I'm using v1.11 at the moment. And the set file you can find out here: DonationBox set file.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
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