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  • Feb 18, 2015 10:47pm Feb 18, 2015 10:47pm
  •  Agk007
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{quote} Ohh I am not rude, I just say how it is, and lot of peoples have problems with that. And also here is no drama, is it wrong to hold the thread clean, like the thread owner pleased? But I see where you come from, that's funny, say hello to your buddy
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Where I come from? What are you talking about? Anyways, I trade like big e did, I'm all for keeping the thread true to its colors. I just think it can be done in a nicer manner. Maybe it's because English isn't your first language. It's easy to mis interpret emotions through text.
 
 
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{quote} Ohh I am not rude, I just say how it is, and lot of peoples have problems with that. And also here is no drama, is it wrong to hold the thread clean, like the thread owner pleased? But I see where you come from, that's funny, say hello to your buddy
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I remember you introduced Guppy charts at Genesis thread.........
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
 
 
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  • Feb 18, 2015 11:00pm Feb 18, 2015 11:00pm
  •  Fame of me
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{quote} I remember you introduced Guppy charts at Genesis thread.........
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And one more buddy nice
 
 
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  • Feb 18, 2015 11:04pm Feb 18, 2015 11:04pm
  •  snarlyjack
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{quote} Ohh I am not rude, I just say how it is, and lot of peoples have problems with that. And also here is no drama, is it wrong to hold the thread clean, like the thread owner pleased? But I see where you come from, that's funny, say hello to your buddy
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Hello,

If I can insert my opinion.

Eelfranz brought into forex factory a very simple system that he
got from Dean Malone @ Compass Fx. After years of trading the
system by hundreds of traders, some holes were discovered.

Dean Malone went back to the drawing board & tweaked the original
system. Dean Malone added the guppy's, pac, dot's & 200 ema.
Neither Emmanuel or I added these into the system.
You must realize that this system originally came from Dean Malone.

My interest in this is to help traders as best I can. I personally
think that the inside bar indicator that Emmanuel uses is a very
good indicator. I also think Lastingwell's tdi mtf indicator is very
good. Dean Malone rewrote the original tdi & pac. He realized
their were problems with the old original indicators.

I think the bottom line of Dean Malone was to make the system
better with updated indicators. I have no problem with that...

sj
 
 
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  • Feb 18, 2015 11:16pm Feb 18, 2015 11:16pm
  •  Fame of me
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{quote} Hello, If I can insert my opinion. Eelfranz brought into forex factory a very simple system that he got from Dean Malone @ Compass Fx. After years of trading the system by hundreds of traders, some holes were discovered. Dean Malone went back to the drawing board & tweaked the original system. Dean Malone added the guppy's, pac, dot's & 200 ema. Neither Emmanuel or I added these into the system. You must realize that this system originally came from Dean Malone. My interest in this is to help traders as best I can. I personally think that...
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Hello snarlyjack,

your interest is good to help

But can I ask a simple question? If you don't mind, what do you understand if your read that from Eric:

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.... I know there is no way to stop others from adding other indicators. It's human nature. I would appreciate it if you did not post those indicators on this thread. Please start your own thread if necessary. .... Thanks Again, Big E
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  • Feb 18, 2015 11:29pm Feb 18, 2015 11:29pm
  •  snarlyjack
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{quote} Hello snarlyjack, your interest is good to help But can I ask a simple question? If you don't mind, what do you understand if your read that from Eric: {quote}
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Fame of me,

My interest in this is to help my fellow forex factory traders.

I don't think this is Eelfranz system. I think this is
Dean Malones system. If Dean Malone wants to help us &
make the system better, my opinion is great. I'm sure that
Dean Malone knows all about this thread at forex factory.

What I find interesting is: This Dean Malone system & indicators
magically appear in the paperclip. Brought in by a 1 time poster
that no one knows or has heard from since. It's like Dean
Malone sending these indicators to us. That is what I find
interesting. From the heavens a magical Dean Malone indicator
shows up...

sj
 
 
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  •  Avc2010
  • | Additional Username | Joined Feb 2015 | 41 Posts
Hi, as non-member of FF and after reading through entire thread over the past 2 months,
I've decided today to become member and start a trade journal (once FF allows me, I got error saying I wasn't "old" enough lol)
to totally devote me to trading the way Eelfranz did on the H4 timeframe.

As 1st post, I just wanted to come here and thank all the people who have given so much time and effort to explain method and who were able to keep
the thread mostly positive.

I will post all my trades in my journal rather than here as I can see many people putting their flavour on the original method which of course
completely understandable but nonetheless distraction for me in my pursuing of simplicity and profits.

I wish all those who are experiencing consistent success with this method all the best for today and tomorrow's trading.

Sorry if my English is bit weird.
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 12:02am Feb 19, 2015 12:02am
  •  mkfx
  • Joined Nov 2012 | Status: Member | 815 Posts
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{quote} Hello snarlyjack, your interest is good to help But can I ask a simple question? If you don't mind, what do you understand if your read that from Eric: {quote}
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Hi Fame,

If you do not like other indicators just ignore the post and move on other posts which you like.

but please do not stop others( senior traders ) to post their charts with indicators what are they using to improve this system.

So please do not create problems here.......................

Thanks for cooperation with new learners here.
 
 
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  •  snarlyjack
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Hi, as non-member of FF and after reading through entire thread over the past 2 months, I've decided today to become member and start a trade journal (once FF allows me, I got error saying I wasn't "old" enough lol) to totally devote me to trading the way Eelfranz did on the H4 timeframe. As 1st post, I just wanted to come here and thank all the people who have given so much time and effort to explain method and who were able to keep the thread mostly positive. I will post all my trades in my journal rather than here as I can see many people putting...
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Avc,

Welcome to Tms!
Tms is a excellent system & I hope you enjoy it
and find it profitable!
If you have any questions or need help, please feel free to ask.
Welcome...
sj
 
 
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  •  Avc2010
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{quote} Avc, Welcome to Tms! Tms is a excellent system & I hope you enjoy it and find it profitable! If you have any questions or need help, please feel free to ask. Welcome... sj
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Thank you SJ.

Throughout thread I just amazed at your time and genoristy to help so many traders.
It's honor to have reply from you.

I will do best in my journal and if get stuck will question here.

Thank you
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 12:28am Feb 19, 2015 12:28am
  •  haydo147
  • | Joined Sep 2014 | Status: Member | 167 Posts
Sorry if this seems stupid, but what is a guppy chart? or a "guppy"?
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 1:04am Feb 19, 2015 1:04am
  •  lastingwell
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Too many losses today. What am I missing? Was I too blinded with TDI signals? Stop too tight? I took the entries on TDI cross confirmed with the higher TF TDI going in the same direction, like lastingwell usually does. Trades taken on 30M / 1H {image} {image} {image} {image} Thank you very much in advance.
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Only just seen this post. I think you were taking more notice of the pac and guppys for your direction than the other rules of engagement. I also don't look at m30/h1 because they are too close to each other. I would use m30 only to get into a trade earlier than h1, but would still look at h4 for the reason that I would only take the trade on h1 if h4 was in agreement.

I don't have many indicators on my chart, not because I'm a great trader, but because too much stuff on there confuses the **** out of me, I have tried lots of different indicators and have discarded them because if it means I sit there and have to think about it too much its not good for me I have forward tested extensively and the only indicators I can truly say has kept me out of more silly trades and lots of drawdown has been the tdi-mtf and s/r those are all thats needed to more often than not, get good trades and keep me out of bad ones.

I've read on here many times that the green above red, above the yellow means the next timeframe has crossed up, and yes it does, but what it won't show you is if that next timeframe is starting to turn down, and on the lower timeframes that can mean a lot of pips.
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 1:08am Feb 19, 2015 1:08am
  •  lastingwell
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{quote} Fame of me, My interest in this is to help my fellow forex factory traders. I don't think this is Eelfranz system. I think this is Dean Malones system. If Dean Malone wants to help us & make the system better, my opinion is great. I'm sure that Dean Malone knows all about this thread at forex factory. What I find interesting is: This Dean Malone system & indicators magically appear in the paperclip. Brought in by a 1 time poster that no one knows or has heard from since. It's like Dean Malone sending these indicators to us. That is what...
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We must also take into account Dean Malone is the public face of Compass and they like people to come to their site and hopefully sign up and pay money, which they do in their thousands.
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 1:09am Feb 19, 2015 1:09am
  •  Bushman
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RJ (realjumper) and his friend FOM met in the genesis thread which RJ ran like his own personal kingdom. He crushed any opposition and any suggestion that his system needed help. Finally he closed the thread with no thought about the group of traders who met there.

They are now spreading their own particular venom and idealogy here.

Their first commandment is "Thou shalt not adapt the system as laid down." The implication is that it is already prefect. Well I'm sorry but everything can be improved.

RJ and FOM, you're both good traders. Why not get on with your trading and be constructive in your posts, and stop goading helpful people like snarlyjack into posting live trades when he probably has better things to do.
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 1:11am Feb 19, 2015 1:11am
  •  emmanuel7788
  • Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Member | 40,225 Posts
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{quote} Let me re-phrase what I wrote: what about respect? Respect the part with Indicators? Cave Manager, 50EMA Master Candles, Inside bars, Outside bars, 20 EMA, and and and and You don't get to "good bye" anyone. This is not your thread and I have as much right to post here as anyone else. right?
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FoM,

Everyone knows that this is not my thread.

You can post here and share your experience and knowledge for everyone to learn from.
But please do not post fake trades the way you did in the Genesis Matrix thread.

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You know how to drag and drop trades from your M4 terminal Account History and that work perfectly.
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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 1:52am Feb 19, 2015 1:52am
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RJ (realjumper) and his friend FOM met in the genesis thread which RJ ran like his own personal kingdom. He crushed any opposition and any suggestion that his system needed help. Finally he closed the thread with no thought about the group of traders who met there. They are now spreading their own particular venom and idealogy here. Their first commandment is "Thou shalt not adapt the system as laid down." The implication is that it is already prefect. Well I'm sorry but everything can be improved. RJ and FOM, you're both good traders. Why not get...
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An now for the facts, as opposed to the fiction.

FOM and I met in the Symphonie thread of Evaluator, not in the Genesis thread.

I did not run it as "my own personal kindom"....on Post #1, Page #1 I stated "NO OTHER INDICATORS WILL BE PERMITTED without prior consent from one of the Genesis team members. To date, the only exception has been for some moving averages to be used in the way explained here by Martyfish"....if people had taken the time to read and understand the few simple rules to the thread, then the thread would still be going now. But, as in this thread, and most threads I suppose, people don't read the first post(s), they skip to the last post, and by doing that, they fall foul of the few rules that are in place for the protection of the system so that all people who come to the thread will all be on the 'same page' as far as indicators and templates etc etc are concerned. Failure to do that renders the thread a bit of a dogs dinner and the losers will be the new comers to the thread....which is a point I made several times to explain why I wanted outside indicators and variations to the system kept out of the thread. Some people, Rooi for one, started his own thread with his own slant on trading the Genesis system, and I applaud that, and I said so at the time.

If the system is constantly changed by every man and his dog adding their own indicators, the system will disintegrate and everyone loses, mostly the newcomers, which, as I said, is a point I made several times.

I simply wished, just as Eric did, that people do not modify the system *in that thread*, but start their own. In the interests of newcomers who are struggling in this very difficult business, I think that's a fair enough request.

There is no "ideology or venom" spreading here.....just underlining Eric's wish that *HIS* thread be kept clean and pure. It matters not what Dean Malone said or did or created...it only matters that Eric started this thread and asked that it be kept pure. Again, I think that's a fair enough request. There are other TMS threads started by other people with their own slant on TMS trading, and I applaud them too.

You're wrong....the implication was not that "the system is already perfect".....you're quite wrong there. The system was tested for months by the Genesis team, which consisted of 4 people, so there was a huge number of man hours gone into the testing of the system. Each member of the team was an experienced and profitable trader in their own right. However, if *anyone* wished to introduce and indicator or other suggested, in that same extract from Post #1 that I pasted above, you can see that I asked that no other outside indicator be introduce *without the prior consent of *one* of the Genesis team." As a matter of fact, several people did come with various suggestions, which were then tested by the team for months to see if they were suitable. The vote was always taken and the majority ruled.

Finally, I posted live trades on that thread because I was 'taken to task' over never posting live trades. With some thought, I realised the benefit to the people if live trades were entered, not each and every time, but just sometimes. To see a trade entered live and then to see it managed until the TP or until the trade is exited at a loss, is a very valuable learning tool for the whole thread. Bear in mind that the Genesis system is a M5 trading system, but it's still possible to do live trades as I and others showed. So it's certainly possible, and equally beneficial to do it here

So Bushman, if you want to have a go at me, be very sure of your facts first, because there is no intention to disrupt anything here as there are some good traders here, I'm just concerned that the thread starter, Eric, asked that the thread be kept pure (or people start their own thread), and that wish has been trampled on, and I feel that someone has to speak for Eric as he (obviously) can not.

Now Frankie is about to open, so I'll leave you to it

RJ
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  •  emmanuel7788
  • Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Member | 40,225 Posts
For all newbies to this thread, THV CaveManager is an expert advisor trade manager which many traders here use to manage their trades.
Eric when he was alive did not use this trade manager but to make our life easier, we can use Cavemanager to manage our trades according to our own exit strategy.
Here below is an example trade on EURAUD H1 manage by CaveManager running live now. I simply set and forget as i do not have time to check my computer all the time.

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Trade Well Folks.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 2:48am Feb 19, 2015 2:48am
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{quote}Only just seen this post. I think you were taking more notice of the pac and guppys for your direction than the other rules of engagement. I also don't look at m30/h1 because they are too close to each other. I would use m30 only to get into a trade earlier than h1, but would still look at h4 for the reason that I would only take the trade on h1 if h4 was in agreement. I don't have many indicators on my chart, not because I'm a great trader, but because too much stuff on there confuses the **** out of me, I have tried lots of different indicators...
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lastingwell, thank you very much for your input and help, as always very helpful. You're right... I have to clean my charts. Also, didn't think about 30M being too close to 1H didn't even notice, and of course it makes total sense! Will look at 4H better

Thanks again!!
Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
 
 
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  • Feb 19, 2015 2:59am Feb 19, 2015 2:59am
  •  cristy1980
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{quote} {image} Here is a quick update on Kiwi: We see a reaction / price pulled back near the 50EMA. But the APB still blue and long upper wick, the TDI still show momentum. Trade management wise, I will look at how today' price bar and APB Day candle will close. Good Trading to all you TMS folks. {image}
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Hi Emm,

Indeed compared NZD to USD there is still big difference in term of currency fundamentals. USD is staling due to soft data, information is there and the wind keep blowing from NZD back, it keep rally up.
I've missed this move, my mind was on GBP crosses.
But I spot a divergence in attitude between EUR and AUD. I notice lot of you are treading EUR/AUD as I see EUR is getting a little strength, so I'll might start to look on TDI and APB for future buy opportunities. Nice trading to all.
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  •  griffinssoul
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{quote} I beg to differ ..... personally I think all the rainbows, fibs, indis, this that and the other, plus the multitude of rules that have been introduced to the original thread is where the real confusion lies. I have simply swept all that away to leave what I need and nothing else. I appreciate that lines instead of candles could be considered a little off the wall for some if not most, and I really wonder how many actually use the candle information, because when all said and done they are no more than fractal information ie broken down into...
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I humbly disagree - you have taken away a core ingredient of Big Es method - not simply added a few indis. Please review the posts in this thread - the majority of traders at least adhere and respect the core requirements of Big E and have simply added a few indis on top - like guppys. However, it is still clearly TMS. Unfortunately, I have no idea what you are trading with your variant of TMS? Can you see how confusing this would be to a noob?
 
 
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