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  • #961,121
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:16am Feb 18, 2015 7:16am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Why would any smart investor invest in Europe before all ECB QE money come to market and before see where euro going to bottomed.
Why would any smart investor invest in Europe anyway. There are better ways to burn profits other than giving 40-60% of them to the government.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #961,122
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:16am Feb 18, 2015 7:16am
Look for 1.15x later today.... if not small loss np
  • #961,123
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:19am Feb 18, 2015 7:19am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Why would any smart investor invest in Europe before all ECB QE money come to market and before see where euro going to bottomed.
A sensible investor wouldn't, they'd wait for the price to fall further. I mean unless all the big players are colluding (WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF THEY WERE) then you only have to look at their orders to see it will fall further - they cannot all be wrong. Also, they all employ very smart people as analysts and what not to help them make money. Yes maybe up and down to take profits but their long term view is bearish. When market sentiment is so bearish, I dont actually place any buy orders, only sell orders because at this moment in time, a slight whisper from a meeting can send this thing shooting up or down....maybe not permanently up but who wants to be sitting with heavy DD unnecessarily?
  • #961,124
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:19am Feb 18, 2015 7:19am
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Why would any smart investor invest in Europe anyway. There are better ways to burn profits other than giving 40-60% of them to the government.
Europe is doomed, but USD XXX looks weak right now, as a trade.
  • #961,125
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:22am Feb 18, 2015 7:22am
some slight demand 1.35oo, of course it is S1 5hr, DX kicking up it's heels. NY getting more negative and then this pair will...
Weak SP / Strong DX /Weak euro. Shorted SP at the open
----- Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know
  • #961,126
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:24am Feb 18, 2015 7:24am
Quoting sophiaphia
some slight demand 1.35oo, of course it is S1 5hr, DX kicking up it's heels. NY getting more negative and then this pair will...
FALL FALL FALL
  • #961,127
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:25am Feb 18, 2015 7:25am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Why would any smart investor invest in Europe before all ECB QE money come to market and before see where euro going to bottomed.
Because it is cheap.

The exchange rate for buying the euro is 25% lower than it was in may. Then they seek to invest i eg. in housing market due to the low exchange rate.
The prices of houses is still falling in Grrece Cyprus etc so it is an double effect cheap house and low exchange rate.

Rising house prices rising labour marked.
I know a lot abouth the real estate market and currency is everything
  • #961,128
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:26am Feb 18, 2015 7:26am
Quoting sisse
{quote} oh la la ...really and please don't get me wrong you are out of depth with those arguments. There is a phrase in Spanish that i learnt a few years ago that is perfect for the argument "tratar de tapar el sol con un dedo" the literal translation is something like "wanting/trying to cover/to hide the sun with one finger". You are trying to deny the undeniable, i don't think even the most republican / tea party / obama hater can defend those points in the current economic circumstances. Like it or not the US is booming period. In any case,...
Hi sisse,
Bears could not flip the daily so far,can we see 1381 or 1410 again.Thanks.
  • #961,129
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:27am Feb 18, 2015 7:27am
Quoting MarianneOslo
{quote} we will see I think you should look behind the figures and the investors are seeking to Europe and Asia
Agree...it's already late to focus on USA imo. That had to happen one year ago.
f(z)=z2+c
  • #961,130
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:28am Feb 18, 2015 7:28am
Quoting MarianneOslo
{quote} Because it is cheap. The exchange rate for buying the euro is 25% lower than it was in may. Then they seek to invest i eg. in housing market due to the low exchange rate. The prices of houses is still falling in Grrece Cyprus etc so it is an double effect cheap house and low exchange rate. Rising house prices rising labour markedt
what if we get 0.8xxx for eurusd? another 25% from where we are.
  • #961,131
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:30am Feb 18, 2015 7:30am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} what if we get 0.8xxx for eurusd? another 25% from where we are.
Well...than you have to buy everything at 0. Best investment in the world. Does it happen often?
f(z)=z2+c
  • #961,132
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:32am Feb 18, 2015 7:32am
Quoting hathor
{quote} Agree...it's already late to focus on USA imo. That had to happen one year before.
That is true Europe is one year behind the US and the figures will start to improve while we will se the opposite from the US. I think that there are some currency agreement between the FED and the ECB where they agrees to weaken their own currency in differnt periods.

Nothing is really solved but it shows the money flow
Here is an article Soros talking abouth leaving the US markets it is possible to goggle translate it



http://www.hegnar.no/bors/artikkel537089.ece
  • #961,133
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:32am Feb 18, 2015 7:32am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Hi sisse, Bears could not flip the daily so far,can we see 1381 or 1410 again.Thanks.
Technicaly is already done intraday. We have 2 final hurdles to "flipped " on daily. Fomc which I don't expect surprises and the ECB cutting or extending the last lifelines for Greece. Both come after London goes home so track the fix today.sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #961,134
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:33am Feb 18, 2015 7:33am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} what if we get 0.8xxx for eurusd? another 25% from where we are.
Very likely in next 3+ years.
  • #961,135
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:34am Feb 18, 2015 7:34am
Quoting hathor
{quote} Well...than you have to buy everything at 0. Best investment in the world. Does it happen often?
0.8xxx is Ok with me. Below it might be over estimation.
  • #961,136
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:34am Feb 18, 2015 7:34am
Quoting MarianneOslo
{quote} That is true Europe is one year behind the US and the figures will start to improve while we will se the opposite from the US. I think that there are some currency agreement between the FED and the ECB where they agrees to weaken their own currency in differnt periods. Nothing is really solved but it shows the money flow Here is an article Soros talking abouth leaving the US markets it is possible to goggle translate it http://www.hegnar.no/bors/artikkel537089.ece
Also agree...world-wide screenplay of FX. Every CB makes money in every move, just need to fix the rules/levels/dates/...everybody is happy. Unless retails.
f(z)=z2+c
  • #961,137
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:35am Feb 18, 2015 7:35am
Still baby sitting crude ay? I see he's behaving quite well for you.....
Quoting Ken A
hi hi hi .............
  • #961,138
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:35am Feb 18, 2015 7:35am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} what if we get 0.8xxx for eurusd? another 25% from where we are.

Noone knows where the bottom is and even more people will invest in the eurosone. If Greek goes back to drakmer it will be so cheap as some think the currency will fall 50% overnight and then the investors are running to Greece.

The russian will sell in Europe due to the low ruble while the british will buy again due to the strong pound

Like the swiss not many transfer money to switzerland due to the high CHF but the swiss go to the eurosone to invest
  • #961,139
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:37am Feb 18, 2015 7:37am
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} what if we get 0.8xxx for eurusd? another 25% from where we are.
Hmmmm.....obviously anything cheaper is better for investment, no? Every trader has a different perspective on profit target, sentiment, risk level etc.....some look at the next hour to find a trade, some take a monthly perspective.....some take a view years ahead......so basically there isn't really an answer to your question. I'm sure there are people out there scooping up homes in Greece at the current real estate price and exchange rate, why? because when you plan to hold something for 50 years or more as a holiday home....you don't really care much about the exchange rate, you care more about the cost of the home if your planning to hold it so long.

Real estate funds however would care very much about the currency rate because it impacts on their bottom line so they may wait for EURUSD to fall further.....

IMO, trading isn't a science, its more of an art because we all see different things when looking at those charts......
  • #961,140
  • Feb 18, 2015 7:37am Feb 18, 2015 7:37am
Quoting MarianneOslo
{quote} Noone knows where the bottom is and even more people will invest in the eurosone. If Greek goes back to drakmer it will be so cheap as some think the currency will fall 50% overnight and then the investors are running to Greece. The russian will sell in Europe due to the low ruble while the british will buy again due to the strong pound
Good sense of money flow!
f(z)=z2+c
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