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  • #946,521
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:13pm Dec 26, 2014 2:13pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} tin foil.. anti u.s. kinda guy.. no doubt on some 'no fly tracking list" with the extremist sights he quotes.
Never heard Daily Mail called extremist before and not Anti US - just anti US foreign policy shit.
  • #946,522
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:14pm Dec 26, 2014 2:14pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the reality is , it cant be proved to u. they are not inviting u to count it. so u can believe it or not.
we are not privileged enough to count it unfortunately ahahahha....
heck we have to be in like a freemason cult or something to truly know what the US economy is backed by....
i swear to god somebody knows who killed JF Kennedy, or the truth whether Area 51 exists or not..... we are just not part of the exquisite group of people invited to be shared these information with.
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #946,523
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:19pm Dec 26, 2014 2:19pm
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} you do know that Tulips also needed manpower and time to grow right? in fact relate gold and tulips... they are both very relative gold to me is the modern day tulip. using gold to hold value is just as dangerous as using a bulb of tulip to hold value. eventually it collapses because theres no value created. one day gold suppliers will give up producing gold. also.... whats stopping the world to make Platinum as the metal to back currency with? nothing really.... gold's value can disappear one day when somebody decides to back their currency...
fxtyrant you didnt get my point. I wasnt specifical about gold. It was meant to be applied to any other monetary tied instrument.

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we already know all the facts the Russians and Chinese governments are above board.

I dont care what they post, i care what in/out numbers say. They say serious figures over to what China/Russia in flows. And they say overboard to what China posts.
  • #946,524
  • Edited 2:40pm Dec 26, 2014 2:19pm | Edited 2:40pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} tin foil.. anti u.s. kinda guy.. no doubt on some 'no fly tracking list" with the extremist sights he quotes.
If that was the only thing you could argue - I totally understand who you are and why this duscussion here is not only useless, but even based on unchecked/unproven information.
By the way, apart from you, I am neither "Anti US" nor "Anti - someone else".

UPD. Gatorinla, I just realized that, maybe, I misunderstood you. If I did - then I am really sorry!

Best wishes,
Artem
Let's go with the flow
  • #946,525
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:20pm Dec 26, 2014 2:20pm
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} well them not showing evidence doesnt mean they dont have gold.... let the conspiracy theory begin. Fort Knox, and why Gold is traded in Dollar and not other currencies if US doesnt hold gold hmmm?? Heres another thing.... who dominates the IMF i wonder? and actually THX god the US dollar is not backed by gold.... the way gold has collapsed... sheesh i wouldnt like to hold gold.... has no fundamental value.... gold you pull out of the ground stays a bar of gold forever.... so supply of gold is infinite because gold will still be around when...
Quoting TheNoob
{quote} y... gold is total useless, it has no Fundamentals, you can't drink/eat/consume it...
+1 gold has a stupid & symbolic human value rather than anything else...2008 has probably only shown the limits of reckless human value...the problem with it?: this is so useless that everyone do absolutely the same thing in the same time... they all bought it in same time (1970ies) kept it for longggg ...then they all sold it: all their gold stock to save their a.. out from the crisis...but what happens when you can't find buyers stupid enough to buy it at 2000?... it drops simply faster =reckless moves
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  • #946,526
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:25pm Dec 26, 2014 2:25pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} I am originally from Europe, but since I got sick of it, I am travelling the world and living everywhere for a while...still looking for the place with the most pros and least cons...which will take me a lifetime, I guess.
Oh, that's great! I wish you to find your place - even if it takes a lifetime

Artem
Let's go with the flow
  • #946,527
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:26pm Dec 26, 2014 2:26pm
Quoting TheNoob
{quote} {quote} +1 gold has a stupid & symbolic human value rather than anything else...2008 has probably only shown the limits of reckless human value...the problem with it?: this is so useless that everyone do absolutely the same thing in the same time... they all bought it in same time (1970ies)...then they all sold it: all their gold stock to save their a.. out from the crisis...but what happens when you can't find buyers stupid enough to buy it at 2000?... it drops...
Hey nice point since 2008 gold rallied to 1700. Good point to back your arguments on. Jeez. I know where gold bugs lie, but you even discredit price and true demand. No comment on that. Let me just add to that, whoever bought at 1970 had no idea what USD is going forward on. You can not participate in FM if you dont understand what carpet is being put forward of you.
  • #946,528
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:26pm Dec 26, 2014 2:26pm
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} you do know that Tulips also needed manpower and time to grow right? in fact relate gold and tulips... they are both very relative gold to me is the modern day tulip. using gold to hold value is just as dangerous as using a bulb of tulip to hold value. eventually it collapses because theres no value created. one day gold suppliers will give up producing gold. also.... whats stopping the world to make Platinum as the metal to back currency with? nothing really.... gold's value can disappear one day when somebody decides to back their currency...


Gold can go to $5 & stay there forever if not used as a reserve currency. Has mostly no other purpose.
Oil can go down but only stay below cost of production for a period of time because we'll need it until we all use a new fuel for vehicles.
Silver is the better metal if investing in precious metals. Over 50% is used in industrial (solar, electrical, etc....) so even if it loses "investment" status, at least it will be used up so needs to be replaced. Still no guarantee it can't drop to $5 too & stay since 70% is produced as a by-product of mining other metals(copper, lead, zinc, etc...).
  • #946,529
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:27pm Dec 26, 2014 2:27pm
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} you do know that Tulips also needed manpower and time to grow right? in fact relate gold and tulips... they are both very relative gold to me is the modern day tulip. using gold to hold value is just as dangerous as using a bulb of tulip to hold value. eventually it collapses because theres no value created. one day gold suppliers will give up producing gold. also.... whats stopping the world to make Platinum as the metal to back currency with? nothing really.... gold's value can disappear one day when somebody decides to back their currency...
So why do banks still buy and store gold - even US.
  • #946,530
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:28pm Dec 26, 2014 2:28pm
Just noticed a very strange thing on my chart posted below.

Whenever pa moves like this, we get economic lessons in this thread.
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  • #946,531
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:28pm Dec 26, 2014 2:28pm
Quoting artem_t
{quote} Oh, that's great! I wish you to find your place - even if it takes a lifetime Artem
Thanks! But the journey is really the best part of it.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #946,532
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:32pm Dec 26, 2014 2:32pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Thanks! But the journey is really the best part of it.
Exactly. The road to the goal is more important than the goal itself, I would say

Artem
Let's go with the flow
  • #946,533
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:35pm Dec 26, 2014 2:35pm
Quoting artem_t
{quote} Exactly. The road to the goal is more important than the goal itself, I would say Artem
Yes, that applies to most stuff.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #946,534
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:40pm Dec 26, 2014 2:40pm
Quoting Myo
he..hehehe...hehehehehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ58RFKwSfw
are u kidding me !? ...
he had not stop ?
"I'm not answering stupid questions."
  • #946,535
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:46pm Dec 26, 2014 2:46pm
Gold does not matter except to peasants because it is shiny.

Energy matters period.

China can have every single ounce of gold in the world- and the only thing that will be effected is electronics (and currencies still "backed" by gold)- until they use another metal to cut costs.

USA has even 80% of the worlds NG and OIL, EVERYTHING is effected, as the US sees fit.

USA is playing chess, while everyone else plays checkers, and Russia is playing scrabble.
  • #946,536
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:48pm Dec 26, 2014 2:48pm
Quoting Chicky
Just noticed a very strange thing on my chart posted below. Whenever pa moves like this, we get economic lessons in this thread. {image}
what?yeah, but actually it is only parking at S1 2173...sometimes it go 2165 sometimes it go 2179...yes you can sell 2179 & buy 2165, but be carefull with SL, cuz at a *unknown* hour it will move hard and won't go back at this level for a possible long time...
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  • #946,537
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:50pm Dec 26, 2014 2:50pm
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} So why do banks still buy and store gold - even US.
100% psychological

Merely to be able to say- "i have gold" and appease the apes.

FYI- titanium has infinitely more utility than gold (and any other metal), and there is more of that in the ground than any other metal. Why isnt it at the top? Pure psychology.
  • #946,538
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:52pm Dec 26, 2014 2:52pm
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} So why do banks still buy and store gold - even US.
"Bernamke...2012. "
  • #946,539
  • Dec 26, 2014 2:54pm Dec 26, 2014 2:54pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} 100% psychological Merely to be able to say- "i have gold" and appease the apes.
Listent to this guy, and never be able to predict any geo-eco policy in history of current policies. Let me be clear, from ,my owm shots i take postiions, i want to hear this guys opinion when he takes position on fx markets from his view. Please to be clear, are you short NG, Brent, USD? I am all ears.
  • #946,540
  • Dec 26, 2014 3:13pm Dec 26, 2014 3:13pm
Quoting Myo
he..hehehe...hehehehehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ58RFKwSfw
I remember me .. when i lost like 500 dolars .. when J.A.R opened their palladium mines because of strike... i had not stop loss and bam ! - 100 dolars i was praying come up and i will close u ! ... please ... BOOM ! -500 dolars ... life lesson
"I'm not answering stupid questions."
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