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  • #396,781
  • Sep 5, 2014 6:43pm Sep 5, 2014 6:43pm
OK, I'm not going to get into the HDA argument but just for FUN on FRIDAY, I'll just throw out a hypothetical situation :-)

He always says he's a "position trader". Notice, he never mentions a SL so let's just say he doesn't use any because he's a POSITION trader with less emphasis on "trader" and continues to scale in "forever". He knows if he would mention no SL & continue to scale-in he'd be laughed off the planet with "adding to losing trades is for losers". Look at the weekly chart & notice from the low-to-high of the move from june 2013 to july 2014 took just 13 months. For a position trader, that's a short period of time if he should need to be in that long. As long as he's calculated his position size to allow enough @ each new entry, why couldn't he continue to add? I just drew lines at his first 2 entries & if evenly spaced showed his first 7 entries. He would be @ break-even @ 1.6240. What's wrong with doing it this way if you're not in a hurry & have enough funds to keep adding? I can think of someone else in this thread that kept adding on the short side & he's looking much better now so why can't HDA add to his buys?

Sorry for the "space-waster", just messing around. I've seen plenty other wasted space in this thread so wanted to join the party.
***BTW, I'm in no way trying to silence the criticism or suggesting you agree with him or follow him. I just try to pick up a little knowledge from him or anyone that has something to offer. I don't follow anyone with trade calls.
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  • #396,782
  • Sep 5, 2014 6:52pm Sep 5, 2014 6:52pm
Quoting srt
OK, I'm not going to get into the HDA argument but just for FUN on FRIDAY, I'll just throw out a hypothetical situation :-) He always says he's a "position trader". Notice, he never mentions a SL so let's just say he doesn't use any because he's a POSITION trader with less emphasis on "trader" and continues to scale in "forever". He knows if he would mention no SL & continue to scale-in he'd be laughed off the planet with "adding to losing trades is for losers". Look at the weekly chart & notice from the low-to-high of the move from june 2013 to...
I think you are missing the point of what some are saying in here
Come with me if you want to live....
  • #396,783
  • Edited Sep 6, 2014 12:57pm Sep 5, 2014 6:56pm | Edited Sep 6, 2014 12:57pm
Quoting Ill-b-back
{quote} I think you are missing the point of what some are saying in here
No, I agree with some of the comments but remember, mine is JUST for FUN.
Sorry, you won't drag me into the cat fights :-)
  • #396,784
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:02pm Sep 5, 2014 7:02pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} Chris, why do you think he has gained over 300 followers, most of them have never post a single message here in FF, many have negative trade explores etc? When you claim here in FF that you are the Messias, a hedge fund manager, a self proclaimed Ph.D. of Mathematics etc. you instantly will have many hundreds of followers (and then defenders) who will bet the farm on your calls. It is every time the same scheme. Brag when you are right, and disappear (at least for a while) when you are wrong. Claim that you have unlimited firepower, so every...
Hey brother, good to hear from you.

I'm not defending HDA here like we've discussed before. I'm simply defending truth. I have a really hard time with "charges" and "accusations" that bare no evidence. It could be against you or me or anyone else here and it's just not right IMHO. The fact that he has many "subscribers" doesn't mean they blindly follow his calls, advice or trading style. If they were and they were loosing, why wouldn't they post about it? You say "they don't post here" Well WTF not??

If I followed someone and got caught up in losses I sure would without ANY hesitation at all I assure you. I would want EVERYONE to know.... Being the blabber mouth I am and all ... .... LOL

I mean geezzzz brother, I have 101 "subscribers" and do you think every one (or any) of them is following my trading? First, I sure hope not and second, if they are I haven't heard about a single loss that I myself have had from anyone else. I see folks subscribe and unsubscribe from me everyday. It means nothing other than they were interested, and then they weren't ....

Couldn't it be folks just like us for one reason or another and "subscribe" so they are notified of our posts to read them?

When someone claims "they have seen many who have lost", well... OK... SHOW THEM TO ME! Is that too much to ask?
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #396,785
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:11pm Sep 5, 2014 7:11pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} Who? Please provide a link or links to these so-called "many traders who got in a really bad position because of him". I'm very interested to see them. If they exist I think we should get their stories for the good of all here... no? Since "You've seen them" I imagine pointing them out should be very easy for you. I've seen this "charge" several times now. I even seen a few "charges" that traders got margin calls as well. I won't claim it is, or it's not true but to date, I have not seen one single post from a trader claiming...
So finally , you decide to throw it on the table .

for the who question , infinitus said it all and I thank him , although I guess that you think I am pointing you as a blind follower - don't know why -

Quoting infinitus
{quote} Chris, why do you think he has gained over 300 followers, most of them have never post a single message here in FF, many have negative trade explores etc? When you claim here in FF that you are the Messias, a hedge fund manager, a self proclaimed Ph.D. of Mathematics etc. you instantly will have many hundreds of followers (and then defenders) who will bet the farm on your calls.
I really didn't think that you would defend him at this extent and attack me agressively upon my opinion , lot of poison spreading on this Forum , new members be aware . you talk about being professional , well , I bet that besides your strategy concerning your long entry @67XX levels and below holding to 6400 , that you had some kind of faith on him , so you didn't cut your loss and re evaluate your plan . you keep talking about Facts and that's a word that you learnt from him by influence . I am sorry that we had to bring this up because of an anonymous forum member . Clear you head and after you recover from your losses , try to handle another conversation with me . I don't like those who worship proclaimed "Rich" and "professional Traders" on a public Forum .

Peace .
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  • #396,786
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:17pm Sep 5, 2014 7:17pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} Hey brother, good to hear from you. I'm not defending HDA here like we've discussed before. I'm simply defending truth. I have a really hard time with "charges" and "accusations" that bare no evidence. It could be against you or me or anyone else here and it's just not right IMHO. The fact that he has many "subscribers" doesn't mean they blindly follow his calls, advice or trading style. If they were and they were loosing, why wouldn't they post about it? You say "they don't post here" Well WTF not?? If I followed someone and got caught...

OK, got it

Another question:

what is the reason to subscribe to someone, who has offered not a single chart in his nearly 3000 postings? Not to speak about sound analysis.....

All I can remember are kind lengthy blablas, which reminds me with all the sublime tryings on some spamming marketing outlets.
  • #396,787
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:17pm Sep 5, 2014 7:17pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} . Having read yesterday what he wrote to Navin and advised to him, all I can say is that I am speechless over the fact, that this guy still gets support here. Anyway - wish you all a nice weekend - it is a time most of us waited "patiently" for......

Let's face it, HDA has trolled the whole newbie armada on cable thread and now is sitting somewhere and laughing. They hopefully will learn from it and did not bet all they have. HDA has lost a lot of credibility after never talking about SL or posting a chart with his orders, just suggestive bold and colorful letters with simple formulars for simple people: PATIENCE Somehow, I do not find this funny. But this is FF. I think I will be gone here soon as well.
Fix up, trade sharp ...
  • #396,788
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:23pm Sep 5, 2014 7:23pm
Quoting srt
{quote} No, I agree with some of the comments but remember, mine is JUST for FUN. Sorry, you won't drag me into the cat fights :-) {image}
Yes you are correct

With the current situation, I suspect the next step is for "the plan" to be left open to "interpretation"

And to use the mans own words "you can quote me on that" now need to get some things done around home and beyond. Enjoy the weekend.
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  • #396,789
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:26pm Sep 5, 2014 7:26pm
Quoting hoom
{quote} So finally , you decide to throw it on the table . for the who question , infinitus said it all and I thank him , although I guess that you think I am pointing you as a blind follower - don't know why - {quote} I really didn't think that you would defend him at this extent and attack me agressively upon my opinion , lot of poison spreading on this Forum , new members be aware . you talk about being professional , well , I bet that besides your strategy concerning your long entry @67XX levels and below holding to 6400 , that you had some...
Ok you have no proof of your hollow claim then. All you can do is INCORECTLY use others words to make your points. Just like you did with mine earlier and you were just as dead wrong then too. Done with you. Next?
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #396,790
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:31pm Sep 5, 2014 7:31pm
Quoting Ill-b-back
{quote} Yes you are correct With the current situation, I suspect the next step is for "the plan" to be left open to "interpretation" And to use the mans own words "you can quote me on that" now need to get some things done around home and beyond. Enjoy the weekend.
You too!
  • #396,791
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:34pm Sep 5, 2014 7:34pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} Ok you have no proof of your hollow claim then. All you can do is INCORECTLY use others words to make your points. Just like you did with mine earlier and you were just as dead wrong then too. Done with you. Next?
yeah as if wrong calls and patience isn't enough of a proof in the last 2 years , as if it's not obvious , as if traders will come in crying on a public forum because they followed an anonymous member on his plan and they lost a lot or everything and going to rage on him , personally , if you do this I will call you a dumb**s with no regrets. Keep your circus around , you will get a lawyer degree soon enough .
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  • #396,792
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:49pm Sep 5, 2014 7:49pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} OK, got it Another question: what is the reason to subscribe to someone, who has offered not a single chart in his nearly 3000 postings? Not to speak about sound analysis..... All I can remember are kind lengthy blablas, which reminds me with all the sublime tryings on some spamming marketing outlets.
I can't speak to why anyone else would buddy. But I see knowledge of this market in his words and levels and I've seen first hand examples of it as well. Personally I have no "knowledge" of who he is, if he trades or anything else. But his input has value to me. Now I'm not a holy grail trader like others here would claim they are but I'm no idiot either.

When he says something I already know I say, ok, I know that. When he says something I don't I check it out to see if it rings true. So far, I've learned a few things. Now I am friends with someone here that tells me he knows him personally and he's for real. I "suppose" that could be a lie but I'll tell you, I don't believe that for a second. I trust my friend here. But even if I didn't .......

At the risk of sounding like I'm tooting my own horn here, after a lifetime of working with folks over very intimate things like building a custom home or doing a piece of custom woodwork they've dreamed of all their life, or even my lifetime study of folks in general, I'm a fairly good judge of character.

But again, this really isn't about whether HDA is, or isn't. It's just about charges being leveled (against anyone) without any evidence or proof. I see a LOT of speculation. Not much of anything else. Tony would (and has) called me gullible. Well, if innocent until PROVEN guilty is gullible? I guess I am then. But I sure wouldn't want someone making claims about me based on speculation and nothing else. I don't know, call me crazy.
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  • #396,793
  • Sep 5, 2014 7:55pm Sep 5, 2014 7:55pm
Quoting hoom
{quote} yeah as if wrong calls and patience isn't enough of a proof in the last 2 years , as if it's not obvious , as if traders will come in crying on a public forum because they followed an anonymous member on his plan and they lost a lot or everything and going to rage on him , personally , if you do this I will call you a dumb**s with no regrets. Keep your circus around , you will get a lawyer degree soon enough .
Wrong calls? Look again. My GOD folks have really short memories. But it's clear you can only call names when confronted with backing up your BS claims. My "circus" wants nothing to do with you anyway so that's cool. And you're right, I could have a law degree if I wanted. Thanks for the compliment.

CLICK!
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  • #396,794
  • Sep 5, 2014 8:01pm Sep 5, 2014 8:01pm
For what is worth based on my system strong buy signal on GU H4 Daily
and NO I have not bought progressively down on down trend but do think Its getting very close for good bull correction.
DAVIT out
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  • #396,795
  • Sep 5, 2014 8:01pm Sep 5, 2014 8:01pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} Wrong calls? Look again. My GOD folks have really short memories. But it's clear you can only call names when confronted with backing up your BS claims. My "circus" wants nothing to do with you anyway so that's cool. And you're right, I could have a law degree if I wanted. Thanks for the compliment. CLICK!
look who's nervous now , talking about memory LOL , If you can't admit you're wrong , don't insist on proving the opposite .

After all , it was not your plan and you followed him blindly based on faith and trust

Quote
Now I am friends with someone here that tells me he knows him personally and he's for real. I "suppose" that could be a lie but I'll tell you, I don't believe that for a second. I trust my friend here.
you are really clueless .
I figured out why he call you King of comedy after all
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  • #396,796
  • Sep 5, 2014 8:10pm Sep 5, 2014 8:10pm
Quoting Davit
For what is worth based on my system strong buy signal on GU H4 Daily and NO I have not bought progressively down on down trend but do think Its getting very close for good bull correction. DAVIT out {image} {image}
Hi Davit,

Just FYI, the cycle identifier repaints. I looked at it quite a while ago when I was an indicator junkie :-)
  • #396,797
  • Sep 5, 2014 8:15pm Sep 5, 2014 8:15pm
Quoting hoom
{quote} look who's nervous now , talking about memory LOL , If you can't admit you're wrong , don't insist on proving the opposite . After all , it was not your plan and you followed him blindly based on faith and trust {quote} you are really clueless . I figured out why he call you King of comedy after all
LOL... yeah, I followed him ... your assumptions are as simple minded and wrong as you are. Good luck with your trading there ... son...
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  • #396,798
  • Sep 5, 2014 8:17pm Sep 5, 2014 8:17pm
Anyway, ya'll have a good weekend now ya hear?

I'm going to wait Patiently for the next call.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #396,799
  • Sep 5, 2014 8:21pm Sep 5, 2014 8:21pm
Quoting srt
{quote} Hi Davit, Just FYI, the cycle identifier repaints. I looked at it quite a while ago when I was an indicator junkie :-)
Still experimenting.My main signals are PA and RSI WR% and BB zones
Not going to blindly follow the indicator but still its intriguing me.In my understanding cycle indicators including semafors repaint because they have to.
They are based on price which is moving target and repairing is simple function of changing values.I think if I am not mistaken its impossible to code none repainting cycle identifier.
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  • #396,800
  • Sep 5, 2014 10:48pm Sep 5, 2014 10:48pm
So I see some members have been suckin' back on old grandpa's cough medicine. Since I have discipline, I will refrain from highlights. So, GU was a good trade from the 38.2 but did not catch this one. This one was a little tighter. Can only focus on so much. Still, a nice chart and relevant too.

Be good guys. Hope it is helpful. This one reminds me of GJ, not as tight but a zone that could offer nice r/r.

Heck, there is even more here but I think it is messy enough already. All we can do is identify areas of interest then let pa decide. If it plays out, I will try to remember to post an update with other zones.
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