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  • #781,581
  • Apr 3, 2013 4:55am Apr 3, 2013 4:55am
Quoting attila
Morning. So the first part worked perfectly. Now let's see the second. If it does, then that would be really messed up.. https://www.tradingview.com/x/vz850G9t/
got damn attila...are you the new merlin

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  • #781,582
  • Apr 3, 2013 4:56am Apr 3, 2013 4:56am
Quoting Ken A
It works until it doesn't.
well, I did say it
Quoting ec_creep
a bit fucked now, bounced off of that orange line from above. upside atm is 2855
anyways, still working, maaan. 2855 above atm

and... where the heck have you been?
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  • #781,583
  • Apr 3, 2013 4:56am Apr 3, 2013 4:56am
Quoting kuroro001
Why not applying your rule's thread in here ? Instead of making this thread even worst than it is.
kuroro001 wtf man....where you been... missed you here
  • #781,584
  • Apr 3, 2013 4:57am Apr 3, 2013 4:57am
another look for e-u. movement can have more moment with above 2836.


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  • #781,585
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:01am Apr 3, 2013 5:01am
Quoting stevewalker
gator in la once in a 40,000 ,post your Equity Curve!!
come on, maan..
cut it out, pls

this thread is one big melting pot. where we get to talk abt many other things
chill
  • #781,586
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:04am Apr 3, 2013 5:04am
I kinda like h1 close, but still, it was already here yeterday. First signs of babybull and then nothing. I am getting really tired of sitting 12hrs in front of computer and getting stopped and stopped and stopped .... Mhhmmm, coffee.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #781,587
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:08am Apr 3, 2013 5:08am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
..... Cyprus simply cant have enough collateral to cover its Target2 liabilities, so there will be quite nice hole in the Eurosystem if they make a bank run and then leave. I am wondering how much did they already withdrawn through
Tom nice to see a market post in this thread.

The doomers are back after the Cyprus deal but I think most are missing the forest for the trees. Look IMO, more than Cyprus alone the problem was Cyprus solution. Opening pandora's box on deposit losses and Euro short term movement controls set an awful risk precedent for Spain and Italy later.

All the other talk on deposit runs, panic and doom is just more noise than reality. "Cyprus simply can't have enough collateral to cover its Target2 liabilities" is not true under any technical measures. Is crumbs in the context and not even the worst bank crisis in the World (read Argentina or the Asian Crisis in the 90s) 100% of the money just vanishes from the system. Is simply not true .

More importantly you MUST include a key factor in the Cyprus Bank equation: Foreign Capitals:

 

  1. All of the foreign account holders knew way in advance what was going to happen. All serious studies show that [sadly if you want] the benefits of leaving the money in Cyprus even with the bailout losses (that prolly wont be even 100% in the long term) by far exceed the losses with this measure. Why?

     

    1. Don't forget that most foreign money there is either "dirty" or for tax reasons. According to estimates, the cost of bailing in from them is still at least 15% in average "cheaper" than what would (and will) they have paid in taxes in Russia, all the EU countries and even Switzerland and the US...and the other part, the dirty money, don't have the luxury of moving money out of a lax tax "paradise"
    2. In simple words, their [foreign holders] losses is just the cost of doing business so there is no longer a Cyprus issue ...the real problem is in the next EZ "crisis episode" whenever and wherever it is .... More importantly ECB hasn't take a stand yet neither show us any real impact so most those comments are just doomers noise in my view...


sisse

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  • #781,588
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:09am Apr 3, 2013 5:09am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
I kinda like h1 close, but still, it was already here yeterday. First signs of babybull and then nothing. I am getting really tired of sitting 12hrs in front of computer and getting stopped and stopped and stopped .... Mhhmmm, coffee.

Patience... It has to go back and pick up the slackers..
  • #781,589
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:09am Apr 3, 2013 5:09am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
I kinda like h1 close, but still, it was already here yeterday. First signs of babybull and then nothing. I am getting really tired of sitting 12hrs in front of computer and getting stopped and stopped and stopped .... Mhhmmm, coffee.

wider them stops and keep adding. Always gets more exciting..

Mmm, Foood..
  • #781,590
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:17am Apr 3, 2013 5:17am
Quoting sisse
Tom nice to see a market post in this thread. The doomers are back after the Cyprus deal but I think most are missing the forest for the trees. Look IMO, more than Cyprus alone the problem was Cyprus solution. Opening pandora's box on deposit losses and Euro short term movement controls set an awful risk precedent for Spain and Italy later. All the other talk on deposit runs, panic and doom is just more noise than reality. "Cyprus simply can't have enough collateral to cover its Target2 liabilities" is not true under any technical measures. Is...
I'd agree with you if the Russians hadn't taken out all their money...which they have
  • #781,591
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:29am Apr 3, 2013 5:29am
Quoting 4exNinja
I'd agree with you if the Russians hadn't taken out all their money...which they have
I am more than sure than some of the big money (not only Russian but also European from which the UK has a big chunk of it) and bastards [foreign "banks" or related] took the money out way in advance ...I don't think there is one single case in banking crisis history that this hasn't happened.

However, Foreign money (and there is quite a lot %wise) that stayed and are staying knew/know exactly their risk/reward ..they are not idiots ...the rest sadly are just the average Cyprus small business, investor/saver that will end up paying in full the price of the mismanagement of their banks ...

sisse
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  • #781,592
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:31am Apr 3, 2013 5:31am
Quoting 4exNinja
I'd agree with you if the Russians hadn't taken out all their money...which they have
  • #781,593
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:34am Apr 3, 2013 5:34am
Quoting sisse
I am more than sure than some of the big money (not only Russian but also European from which the UK has a big chunk of it) and bastards [foreign "banks" or related] took the money out way in advance ...I don't think there is one single case in banking crisis history that this hasn't happened. However, Foreign money (and there is quite a lot %wise) that stayed and are staying knew/know exactly their risk/reward ..they are not idiots ...the rest sadly are just the average Cyprus small business, investor/saver that will end up paying in full...

I agree.. It depends how much they're going to lose though.. If it's not too much, then it's a calculated move to make dirty money legal again, and they might even welcome what happened.
  • #781,594
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:38am Apr 3, 2013 5:38am
Quoting sisse
I am more than sure than some of the big money (not only Russian but also European from which the UK has a big chunk of it) and bastards [foreign "banks" or related] took the money out way in advance ...I don't think there is one single case in banking crisis history that this hasn't happened. However, Foreign money (and there is quite a lot %wise) that stayed and are staying knew/know exactly their risk/reward ..they are not idiots ...the rest sadly are just the average Cyprus small business, investor/saver that will end up paying in full...
I simply don't agree with your assessment that leaving the money there is the better option. If your goal is to hid funds, and Cyprus is now not an option anymore, there are PLENTY of alternatives. People always only mention Switzerland, Cyprus and Liechtenstein...but there are tons of "safe" alternatives. Hell, ship it to Singapore

Also, just leaving your money in Cyprus doesn't suddenly make it "legit"...so that's not really a benefit.

As for EURUSD, I posted this yesterday...not going long until the 50% fib's clearly broken...especially given the resistance above.
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  • #781,595
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:39am Apr 3, 2013 5:39am
Quoting P.Action
maximum pullback quantity 2819 for me. so i long at 2827 and SL 2817. 2845 TP
tough one
  • #781,596
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:40am Apr 3, 2013 5:40am
Quoting ec_creep
well, I did say it anyways, still working, maaan. 2855 above atm and... where the heck have you been? {image}
Why? Find it strange with what's going on with Yen?
  • #781,597
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:42am Apr 3, 2013 5:42am
Quoting 4exNinja
Hell, ship it to Singapore
Shhhh not too loud or it will be the next target.
  • #781,598
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:44am Apr 3, 2013 5:44am
We need some news to push north.
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  • #781,599
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:45am Apr 3, 2013 5:45am
Quoting Ken A
Shhhh not too loud or it will be the next target.

  • #781,600
  • Apr 3, 2013 5:45am Apr 3, 2013 5:45am
Quoting msetai
tough one

next tough one is 2814
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