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  • #6,001
  • Edited 4:54am Oct 28, 2011 4:44am | Edited 4:54am
Quoting Blobik
However, in an extremely long run, the only resource that won't run out of are qualified workers... other resources will end sooner or later.

But Economy does not really bother. In fact, in trading the most important thing is to know the highs and lows for the next day If you could get them out of your crystal ball, then nothing else matters.
Very true Blobik, but that was not the context of the discussion
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  • #6,002
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:46am Oct 28, 2011 4:46am
Quoting PipTrapper
What you also have to look at is the aging population
People at or above the age of 65 are a drain on financial resources.
Europe's elderly (65 and over) account for ~17% of the population whilst the US's elderly account for ~12%

Source: --> http://siakhenn.tripod.com/age.html
Really the same thing...either you can make babies or you can import them... but without lots of babies, there is no growth. India does the first, Canada and the US do the second, and Europe and Japan do none of the above. China is a special case... as with so many other things they have a hidden advantage nobody knows about.

However, just to be disagreeableI would like to point out that historically resource strong nations are much more likely to very poorly at pretty much everything. They end up with one horse economies with a government that controls that one resource. It is called the Dutch disease. But it could also be called the Oil disease or the African disease.
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  • #6,003
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:48am Oct 28, 2011 4:48am
Quoting PipTrapper
Bid to cover 1.35 (dismal)
Yield 6.1% (Ouch)
We: Ouch.
Market: Hmm. Bad, but Baroso said it was fine!

I am leaving for approx 2 hrs. Managed to retake my losses from yesterday by some wild and a bit reckless scalping with bollinger. When people are waiting for the move, and it is approximately scheduled, BB work great.

I hope we will know if Market thinks&stinks as I expect it to. If not, then maybe some shorting today?
  • #6,004
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:49am Oct 28, 2011 4:49am
Quoting PipTrapper
Very true Buma, but that was not the context of the discussion
Hey, it was me!
  • #6,005
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:50am Oct 28, 2011 4:50am
Quoting PipTrapper
Buma,
Resources are assets that produce tax revenues for the state.
Most leading and emerging economies have many competing resources such as productive workers and companies that employ them.
However, those who also have vast water, metal and energy resources, will always have an advantage.
Cheers
PT
hey thanks piptrapper for the update
vast water... indonesia has untapped hydropower and geothermal sources a lot of them. and solar should be good and wind too. overall great place for renewable resources.

thanks man ill keep up with u as best i can. FA is the basis of trading really. cycles and planets and bananas second
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  • #6,006
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:53am Oct 28, 2011 4:53am
Quoting AaronWard
....... historically resource strong nations are much more likely to very poorly at pretty much everything. They end up with one horse economies with a government that controls that one resource. It is called the Dutch disease. But it could also be called the Oil disease or the African disease.
Thats the real fact. Not only the likelihood but it is actually a fact that the richest nations in natural resources are the poorest with very few exceptions (Norway, Canada and Australia) the other over 150 countries that control the bulk (90%) of the natural resources are poor or underdeveloped.

Having natural resources make things a lot easier but is technically not the reason for wealth and development ...Switzerland should be Swaziland, and Peru should be Germany if the correlation were 1 to 1...Sounds good in theory but in reality is not true that natural resources = wealth and prosperity....

sisse
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  • #6,007
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:54am Oct 28, 2011 4:54am
Quoting Blobik
Hey, it was me!
Oops
I'll go fix it now.
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  • #6,008
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:59am Oct 28, 2011 4:59am
Quoting AaronWard
However, just to be disagreeableI would like to point out that historically resource strong nations are much more likely to very poorly at pretty much everything. They end up with one horse economies with a government that controls that one resource. It is called the Dutch disease. But it could also be called the Oil disease or the African disease.

Quoting sisse
Thats the real fact. Not only the likelihood but it is actually a fact that the richest nations in natural resources are the poorest with very few exceptions (Norway, Canada and Australia) the other over 150 countries that control the bulk (90%) of the natural resources are poor or underdeveloped.

Having natural resources make things a lot easier but is technically not the reason for wealth and development ...Switzerland should be Swaziland, and Peru should be Germany if the correlation were 1 to 1...Sounds good in theory but in reality is not...
Oh I absolutely agree. I was only saying that the leading and emerging economies with natural resources have the advantage.

Quoting PipTrapper
Most leading and emerging economies have many competing resources such as productive workers and companies that employ them.
However, those who also have vast water, metal and energy resources, will always have an advantage.
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #6,009
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:08am Oct 28, 2011 5:08am
Quoting bumapatria
hey thanks piptrapper for the update
vast water... indonesia has untapped hydropower and geothermal sources a lot of them. and solar should be good and wind too. overall great place for renewable resources.

thanks man ill keep up with u as best i can. FA is the basis of trading really. cycles and planets and bananas second
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  • #6,010
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:10am Oct 28, 2011 5:10am
Quoting PipTrapper
Oh I absolutely agree. I was only saying that the leading and emerging economies with natural resources have the advantage.
Hey Pippo

Are you still bearish?

mla
"The Heart is the hub of all dances; go there and chill out"
  • #6,011
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:11am Oct 28, 2011 5:11am
Quoting mla
Hey Pippo

Are you still bearish?

mla
I am flat until the poop hits the fan
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  • #6,012
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:13am Oct 28, 2011 5:13am
Quoting PipTrapper
I am flat until the poop hits the fan
Meaning?

mla
"The Heart is the hub of all dances; go there and chill out"
  • #6,013
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:14am Oct 28, 2011 5:14am
Italy Sells EU7.93 Billion of Bonds, Less Than Maximum Target

Italy sold 7.93 billion euros ($11.24 billion) of bonds, less than the maximum target for the auction, after Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi vowed to boost economic growth and cut debt to fight Europe’s sovereign crisis.
The Rome-based Treasury sold 3.08 billion euros in bonds due in 2014 to yield 4.93 percent, up from 4.68 percent at the last auction of the same securities on Sept. 29. Demand was 1.35 times the amount on offer, compared with 1.36 last month.
Italy also sold 2.98 billion euros of bonds due in 2022 to yield 6.06 percent, 871 million euros of bonds due 2019 to yield 5.81 percent and 1 billion euros of floating-rate bonds due 2017 to yield 5.59 percent. The Treasury had aimed to sell as much as 8.5 billion euros in today’s auction.
“All in all, today’s auction was not very satisfying,” Annalisa Piazza, a fixed-income strategist at Newedge Group in London. Although the European Union summit that ended yesterday in Brussels “welcomed the new measures the government is planning to implement in the next eight months to ‘change’ the Italian economy, markets remain skeptical about the outcome.”
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  • #6,014
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:17am Oct 28, 2011 5:17am
Quoting mla
Meaning?

mla
Meaning I am still a bear, unless we start to see growth in Europe or economic contraction in the US.
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  • #6,015
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:30am Oct 28, 2011 5:30am
Quoting PipTrapper
Meaning I am still a bear, unless we start to see growth in Europe or economic contraction in the US.
I see, I see.

By the way Bill, was looking for you, he ask me about you, I think he had a bottle of Laphroaig that he wanted to open with you, to talk about the trenline that is not there? Maybe you should send him a pm, not sure.

mla
"The Heart is the hub of all dances; go there and chill out"
  • #6,016
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:33am Oct 28, 2011 5:33am
Key Euribor rates continue upward march
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  • #6,017
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:33am Oct 28, 2011 5:33am
-1% loss right now.
3 open trades.
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #6,018
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:34am Oct 28, 2011 5:34am
Quoting mla
I see, I see.

By the way Bill, was looking for you, he ask me about you, I think he had a bottle of Laphroaig that he wanted to open with you, to talk about the trenline that is not there? Maybe you should send him a pm, not sure.

mla
Is he still making fictitious trade calls?
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  • #6,019
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:36am Oct 28, 2011 5:36am
Quoting bumapatria
-1% loss right now.
3 open trades.
long or short?
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  • #6,020
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:39am Oct 28, 2011 5:39am
Quoting PipTrapper
Is he still making fictitious trade calls?
i think so. you should talk to him. its not healthy as a trader to lie and do that.

i tried my best, and i dont want to hurt his feelings and all.

i spotted the fakes 3 times. trade proofs are fake. no arrows or sell buy lines.
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