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  • #1,261
  • Oct 10, 2011 5:13pm Oct 10, 2011 5:13pm
Quoting realjumper
This has been explained several times already, and you should be able to figure this for yourself....it isn't rocket science. The extreme spike paints when a top or bottom is reached, according to the parameters of the programmed code......which is not easy. Then the PA then 'defies' the spike and goes higher (or lower as the case may be), then the extreme spike has to disappear because the conditions that made it appear in the first place are no longer true. In other words, the top (or bottom) has not yet been reached. There is NO WAY to program...

Well said realjumper. Additionally, I did post some modifications you can try to lower repaints. But since Extreme Indikator is a FORWARD looking indikator (i.e. trying ot guess tops and bottoms) it is its nature to repaint.

Remember Extreme indikator is just a warning of impending possible direction change.

Like realjumper said, go back re read the thread. It have been exhaustively discussed.

Evaluator
  • #1,262
  • Oct 10, 2011 5:20pm Oct 10, 2011 5:20pm
Quoting iffex
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WHY WHY WHY not just code a damn one that displays signals and keeps them on. There is no reason to have them disappear.
Simply impossible. If you can, you can call it "HOLY GRAIL" ...
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  • #1,263
  • Oct 10, 2011 8:04pm Oct 10, 2011 8:04pm
Quoting lhDT
Simply impossible. If you can, you can call it "HOLY GRAIL" ...
You and realjumper are both so effin stupid.

Here is what I said:
"WHY WHY WHY not just code a damn one that displays signals and keeps them on. There is no reason to have them disappear."

Did I just say there that I wanted it to produce only perfect signals? No I did not so stop putting words in my mouth.

What I said is that the code does not need to make it so to disappear away with signals after 5 new bars have formed. If a signal appeared 5 bars back on a closed bar at that time. What is the reason to make it disappear? None, it can stay on and then you could actually see for example what happened while you took a coffee break, but instead you can only look at the very current bar. Because the code keeps changing PAST signals.

You people oh wow. IQ wow... ahh wow.

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Well said realjumper. Additionally, I did post some modifications you can try to lower repaints. But since Extreme Indikator is a FORWARD looking indikator (i.e. trying ot guess tops and bottoms) it is its nature to repaint.

OF COURSE IT IS. Like everything else really. Do you not get it? Why couldn't it just post it's new guesses without removing past guesses? It removes all wrong guesses, even 5 bars back and it is changing an extreme spike guess because it didn't play through. There is no reason to remove it. Why not keep the past signal so you can actually see what the code generated past 1 bar ago?

That was my point and it is sad that no one got it. Reading posts about people not being sure how much it repaints ect ect. Just made me sad. Read the code, it removes all wrong guesses. It is that basic. It repaints on all time frames no less on others unless it does better there.

Oh and this has nothing to do with if this system works or not. But here you all are posting screenshots of your exits and entries which would be a lot more beneficial if it included the wrong signals so people could see how you weed through those. But no instead you post pictures of perfect charts.
  • #1,264
  • Oct 10, 2011 8:14pm Oct 10, 2011 8:14pm
Quoting iffex
You and realjumper are both so effin stupid.

Here is what I said:
"WHY WHY WHY not just code a damn one that displays signals and keeps them on. There is no reason to have them disappear."

Did I just say there that I wanted it to produce only perfect signals? No I did not so stop putting words in my mouth.

What I said is that the code does not need to make it so to disappear away with signals after 5 new bars have formed. If a signal appeared 5 bars back on a closed bar at that time. What is the reason to make it disappear? None, it can stay...
I got your point the first time, thank you.

If the extreme spike were to stay on the chart, and then a new extreme spike were to appear in the same direction, which is what you're saying, what would be the point?

Now, I suggest you learn a little courtesy if you expect to be treated with courtesy.

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #1,265
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:13am Oct 11, 2011 1:13am
Possible hidden bullish divergence on the GBPUSD? Just entered long. Even though the whole thing is on the upper band of a downwards 8H channel.
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  • #1,266
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:14am Oct 11, 2011 1:14am
Just entered a buy on GBP/USD and EUR/USD
  • #1,267
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:18am Oct 11, 2011 1:18am
Closed EUR/USD
  • #1,268
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:27am Oct 11, 2011 1:27am
Quoting Peteday
Closed EUR/USD
Why did you close is that fast? What was your S/L?
  • #1,269
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:28am Oct 11, 2011 1:28am
Quoting Peteday
Just entered a buy on GBP/USD and EUR/USD
trading before London open is useless:nerd:
  • #1,270
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:30am Oct 11, 2011 1:30am
Quoting millenseed
Why did you close is that fast? What was your S/L?
Opposing Spike before 30 pips profit
  • #1,271
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:31am Oct 11, 2011 1:31am
Quoting bullzeye
trading before London open is useless:nerd:
Bullseye what time does London open please? Sorry for being slow im just learning
  • #1,272
  • Oct 11, 2011 1:44am Oct 11, 2011 1:44am
Quoting Peteday
Bullseye what time does London open please? Sorry for being slow im just learning
London opens in 15 minutes
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  • #1,273
  • Oct 11, 2011 2:30am Oct 11, 2011 2:30am
because of extreme less repaint at tf 1h, 4h, daily. in my opinion we should follow the extreme at big TF and order at tf 5 follow it. TF 1h is my favourite, and trade at Tf 5.
I use SL 30pip, it work. for me 50pip SL is too much. Just TP sell GU 30pip.
  • #1,274
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:26am Oct 11, 2011 3:26am
Quoting ductrifx
because of extreme less repaint at tf 1h, 4h, daily. in my opinion we should follow the extreme at big TF and order at tf 5 follow it. TF 1h is my favourite, and trade at Tf 5.
I use SL 30pip, it work. for me 50pip SL is too much. Just TP sell GU 30pip.

GoodMorning All!
  • #1,275
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:27am Oct 11, 2011 3:27am
Quoting ductrifx
because of extreme less repaint at tf 1h, 4h, daily. in my opinion we should follow the extreme at big TF and order at tf 5 follow it. TF 1h is my favourite, and trade at Tf 5.
I use SL 30pip, it work. for me 50pip SL is too much. Just TP sell GU 30pip.

ductrifx,

It is important for you to trade with settings you feel most comfortable. If closer stops work for you then please by all means use closer stops.

Best of luck,

Eval.
  • #1,276
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:41am Oct 11, 2011 3:41am
Quoting Evaluator
GoodMorning All!
Good evening!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #1,277
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:43am Oct 11, 2011 3:43am
Quoting Evaluator
ductrifx,

It is important for you to trade with settings you feel most comfortable. If closer stops work for you then please by all means use closer stops.

Best of luck,

Eval.
thanks Eval!
I lost too much before use your sys. At this time I back to trade. new beginning.

Sell EU, SL 30pip
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  • #1,278
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:48am Oct 11, 2011 3:48am
Quoting ductrifx
thanks Eval!
I lost too much before use your sys. At this time I back to trade. new beginning.

Sell EU, SL 30pip
Good move.....I'm in the same trade
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #1,279
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:53am Oct 11, 2011 3:53am
Quoting realjumper
Good move.....I'm in the same trade
SL to be now.....free trade from here on
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #1,280
  • Oct 11, 2011 3:58am Oct 11, 2011 3:58am
Quoting realjumper
SL to be now.....free trade from here on
Move Sl entry 2pip
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