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  • #384,021
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:06pm Feb 10, 2011 12:06pm
Quoting cloggie
You are very clearly not understanding it. Tick volume does not show you the real volume behind the price change, only the change itself. It is irrelevant knowing that price changes (you can see that on any chart and don't need a VSA for that) without knowing the size of trades behind it.

Counting the amount of price changes in a bar is no indication of the underlying volume that caused that price change. VSA is just a tick based range bar. I am happy if you want to discuss range bar trading, but you keep going on about volume. eSignal themselves...
I think this is all down to that old chestnut semantics...

tick is a proxy variable and about the best fit for spot fx, maybe different terminology would clear all this up. your main objection appears to be the usage of the term "volume"...

VSA was primarily developed for stocks, hence the use of the term "volume" (but happens to work in spot fx since we are concerned with activity and not actual traded volume, tick volume and actual volume in futures, stocks, etc. where the data is exchange reported both work well in this regard)...

Suggestions for a new term anyone?

or does using the prefix "tick" cover it?

Serious question...
  • #384,022
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:06pm Feb 10, 2011 12:06pm
that was stopping vol x 2 on a double bottom .. but hey do not take the long as vsa is rubbish

now go take a peak at a 2 hour chart if you have one

Quoting jack.canadia
Malcolmb,

I just looked at Euro. Does the 15min pin bar down there along with volume suggest anything? I know a move occurred already, but now that FXCM supplies tick data I'm interested lol

My take is that pin was formed on average tick vol., and the next 15m bar was up on slightly higher tick vol., so that suggested a move up? This area represented an old gap (see MT4 chart) so I took the long. I'm sure VSA would have helped get in there too? Let me know your thoughts
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  • #384,023
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:07pm Feb 10, 2011 12:07pm
Quoting ukcool
Why is that bro, is that because they have such a lavish lifestyle.

no bro far from that he is head master of the mubbets in the middle east and he is serving his master , not only him jordan yeman and the rest of the MF's in the gulf , bro i am a palastinian i hope u know the rest of the story
  • #384,024
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:10pm Feb 10, 2011 12:10pm
Cloggie is right about VSA having nothing to do with volume in Forex. It basically displays price action in a different way. Nonetheless, volume or no volume, I still think it's a very valid Forex approach for those who have learned how to read it.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #384,025
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:10pm Feb 10, 2011 12:10pm
you still need all the rest to be able to drive your car and fly in a plane .....

How is oil extracted from the ground ? you need mining engineering for that one.
How is the infrastructure done .. you need Civil engineering for that one
How is the airline company financed and operated... MBA ?

btw you still short eu ?

and why do you avoid the fact that futures volume is PURE VOLUME ?... so if vsa does not work please tell me why a shit load of buyers turned up this morning on the futures chart at 1.3580 ?

if you live in London area , if you like I can visit you and show you some things about vsa that will make you hair curl .. remeber BP at 25 ? I bought it , just as I bought gu at 1.6090 and 6040 last 24 hours


Quoting cloggie
You know very little of my background, or else the last thing you wanted to do was start a debate about aerodymics and aeronautical engineering.
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  • #384,026
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:12pm Feb 10, 2011 12:12pm
oh dear cloggie, the whole muppetfighting in here has left it's marks...


Quoting cloggie
You are very clearly not understanding it. Tick volume does not show you the real volume behind the price change, only the change itself. It is irrelevant knowing that price changes (you can see that on any chart and don't need a VSA for that) without knowing the size of trades behind it.

Counting the amount of price changes in a bar is no indication of the underlying volume that caused that price change. VSA is just a tick based range bar. I am happy if you want to discuss range bar trading, but you keep going on about volume. eSignal themselves...
  • #384,027
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:19pm Feb 10, 2011 12:19pm
Do you know what tick volume is ? if not then you better quit trading as tick volume is trading 101...

60 min chart ... check out the amount of tick volume in the doji and the amount of tick volume 2 bars before that , this is not even my fancy 200 source gtis esignal feed .. clear as day .

Also check out the amount of tick volume feb 9th same area.

Do pros wait for a 120 pip down move then start selling ....? or are they called pros for a reason ?

You seem to be a smart guy .. even you must be able to figure out this is accumulation ? If not then stop trading right away . This is trading 101 shit. The longer we hang out in the 1.3500 to 1.3600 area the larger the up move will be

I will call this now ... 1.3850 to 1.4 target

May get shake out to 1.3480 but if we do I add .

There is no indie , no calculation other than number of tick in x time frame.

AND ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD ... FUTURES VOLUME IS PURE VOLUME

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Quoting cloggie
You know very little of my background, or else the last thing you wanted to do was start a debate about aerodymics and aeronautical engineering.
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  • #384,028
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:22pm Feb 10, 2011 12:22pm
is anyone about to buy / sell any currencies because

all this dick flapping , degree comparing middle east news reporting is sending me to sleep.

Me i am long from 1.3585 and am a little bit worried that 1.3639 may be the upper limit
  • #384,029
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:24pm Feb 10, 2011 12:24pm
heres a prediction.
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  • #384,030
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:25pm Feb 10, 2011 12:25pm
Quoting Prosac_100Mg
is anyone about to buy / sell any currencies because

all this dick flapping , degree comparing middle east news reporting is sending me to sleep.

Me i am long from 1.3585 and am a little bit worried that 1.3639 may be the upper limit
worried? 55 pip turn around is better than a kick in the hiney...

and no because there are numbers out in around half an hour...
  • #384,031
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:26pm Feb 10, 2011 12:26pm
Quoting Prosac_100Mg
is anyone about to buy / sell any currencies because

all this dick flapping , degree comparing middle east news reporting is sending me to sleep.

Me i am long from 1.3585 and am a little bit worried that 1.3639 may be the upper limit

Mabye you need to take 100mg of your prosac. lol im just kidding, there is the beige book in a little over a half hour, Im waiting for this to see what price does.
  • #384,032
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:26pm Feb 10, 2011 12:26pm
Quoting kill56
i wish u are right he is a big M F
Yes, but isn't Crown Prince Sultan Abdul-Aziz worse? Not that it matters much; rumor is that Prince Sultan has alzheimers. Next in line would probably be Prince Nayef, another dirtbag. I love this article about one of his wives: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ping-bill.html
I haven't set foot in Saudi since the late 90s; is their secret police as cruel/hated as it was back then under Fahd? (I've been to plenty other countries in the region since then, but have avoided going to Saudi).

If there's one country that's ripe for change of government, it's Saudi Arabia. I, for one, wouldn't miss the House of Saud. The most religious radical alternative is more favorable to me as long as it has the support of the people of Saudi.
  • #384,033
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:27pm Feb 10, 2011 12:27pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Jackpot.
dono.. let me find them.. your the judge.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #384,034
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:27pm Feb 10, 2011 12:27pm
do not be worried about your long .... where is the stop ? asia may try another shake out ....

Quoting Prosac_100Mg
is anyone about to buy / sell any currencies because

all this dick flapping , degree comparing middle east news reporting is sending me to sleep.

Me i am long from 1.3585 and am a little bit worried that 1.3639 may be the upper limit
Blogging daily now at www.volume.zone
  • #384,035
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:29pm Feb 10, 2011 12:29pm
Quoting kill56
no bro far from that he is head master of the mubbets in the middle east and he is serving his master , not only him jordan yeman and the rest of the MF's in the gulf , bro i am a palastinian i hope u know the rest of the story
Bruv is a shame we so far from you, else we'd keep em in check , your freedom willl come (INS'h)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Air_Force
[edit] 1967 Arab-Israeli 'Six-Day' War
Main article: Six-Day War
RJAF and PAF were flying under a joint command. Flt. Lt. Saiful Azam became the only pilot from the Arab side to have shot down 3 IDF/AF aircraft within 72 hours and also the only pilot to have shot down 3 different aircraft types of the IDF/AF. He was, subsequently, decorated by Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan. According to the Pakistani military, PAF pilots performed excellently and downed about 10 Israeli planes including Mirages, Mysteres, Vautours without losing a single pilot or single aircraft of their own.[15]
  • #384,036
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:29pm Feb 10, 2011 12:29pm
Quoting Prosac_100Mg
is anyone about to buy / sell any currencies because

all this dick flapping , degree comparing middle east news reporting is sending me to sleep.

Me i am long from 1.3585 and am a little bit worried that 1.3639 may be the upper limit
Any reason thinking so ? market in its own way .long swing also .back to 3612-05 ok .
fontu
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  • #384,037
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:32pm Feb 10, 2011 12:32pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
worried? 55 pip turn around is better than a kick in the hiney...

and no because there are numbers out in around half an hour...
entries for me are ok ; but exits well thats another story
  • #384,038
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:33pm Feb 10, 2011 12:33pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
worried? 55 pip turn around is better than a kick in the hiney...

and no because there are numbers out in around half an hour...
3614 is your reference point, tested twice as sup and 38.2 fr, wash rinse repeat...
  • #384,039
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:33pm Feb 10, 2011 12:33pm
Quoting iflyjetzzz
Yes, but isn't Crown Prince Sultan Abdul-Aziz worse?...

nothing changed over there still the same shitt , do u know how al sood toke over from al al-rasheed , they kill the whole family at a dinner made by al sood , bro its a matter of time the whole middle east will change
  • #384,040
  • Feb 10, 2011 12:34pm Feb 10, 2011 12:34pm
Quoting malcolmb14
do not be worried about your long .... where is the stop ? asia may try another shake out ....
malc my stop is at BE 1.3585 .... it was originaly at 1.3570
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