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  • #101
  • Nov 4, 2010 12:59pm Nov 4, 2010 12:59pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Could be that's why Robot looks frozen. I cannot double click on it to Edit

properties..

P.S

That: (generates Error, function not defined.. Is that internal function or it must be defined as Boolean?) thanks
while (loop == 0 && IsExpertEnabled())
yes this is the reason
  • #102
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:14pm Nov 4, 2010 1:14pm
Quoting gspe
yes this is the reason
Thanks, must be something else too.. Still cannot access EA properties,

while it's running.

Ok, will wait..
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  • #103
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:22pm Nov 4, 2010 1:22pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Thanks, must be something else too.. Still cannot access EA properties.

Ok, will wait..
To access EA properties you have to stop the EA by Metatrader button and only after that you are able to edit EA properties
  • #104
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:24pm Nov 4, 2010 1:24pm
Quoting gspe
To access EA properties you have to stop the EA by Metatrader button and only after that you are able to edit EA properties
Not really.. Any other EA I have can be accessed while

running.. It shouldn't be frozen.. That's why it doesn't taking any trades

since morning.
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  • #105
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:24pm Nov 4, 2010 1:24pm
I'm now trying to better understand what BWB does (not BWBB yet...).

I see TradePrice[] are taken from GlobalVariables if they do already exist.
That's to recover from a platform crash or shutdown/restart, good enough.

However, these variables are not being deleted when trades are closed (basket hit TP, or move the "CLOSE ALL" "button").

Those limits (well, "stops" i should say) are set when the bot starts the first time, and then NEVER change.

So, trades on a given pair will always open at that same price that was initially gathered the first time (basically the market price when the EA was first started), and buy or sell will depend on the RSI directions.
Until you eventually delete the global vars by hand, or change their value by hand so that the next trade opens at this new limit.

If price goes away from the limit and does not come back to it, then the bot will never open any new trade (for that pair).


Is this the expected trading logic ?


SQ
  • #106
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:35pm Nov 4, 2010 1:35pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Not really.. Any other EA I have can be accessed while

running.. It shouldn't be frozen.. That's why it doesn't taking any trades

since morning.
Sorry, it's just to be clear (my english is not so good)
I was talking about this particular EA, it has a special start() function that once started never release the control to terminal, that's the reason why you need to stop the EA from Metatrader button
  • #107
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:52pm Nov 4, 2010 1:52pm
Quoting gspe
Hi Steve,
there is a little error in the (infinite) endless loop

Inserted Code
while (loop == 0)
sholud be

Inserted Code
while (loop == 0 && IsExpertEnabled())
or simple

Inserted Code
while (IsExpertEnabled())
if not you can't take the control of the robot even if you stopp it, so if you want (for example) to change the input actually the only way is to remove the robot from chart and re drag on chart again
Cheers. I have had a couple of pm's about this as well, so it is on my to do list tonight.

  • #108
  • Nov 4, 2010 1:54pm Nov 4, 2010 1:54pm
Quoting squalou
I'm now trying to better understand what BWB does (not BWBB yet...).

I see...
Yes. This is how T101's 'phantom basket' governed the trade triggers.

It turns out that my recollection of his trading method was well short of perfect, so I think that deleting the globals and starting again is the way forward here - also on my to do list for later.

  • #109
  • Nov 4, 2010 2:16pm Nov 4, 2010 2:16pm
I don't know if it is only on my platform but I noticed that the screen/dashboard is not refreshing every 1 second as it should but it seems it's only refreshing every tick.

So the "Not Trading: X" counter should be incremented every second. But I have it frozen till next tick.

I also found out that if I uncomment the
Inserted Code
Comment(message);

it starts to refresh every second as it should.

As the Comment line is redundand I replaced it with
Inserted Code
Comment(" ");

But now the screen is refreshing every second as expected.

Strange behavior. Even though it is just a cosmetic thing.

p777m
  • #110
  • Nov 4, 2010 2:41pm Nov 4, 2010 2:41pm
Quoting gspe
Sorry, it's just to be clear (my english is not so good)
I was talking about this particular EA, it has a special start() function that once started never release the control to terminal, that's the reason why you need to stop the EA from Metatrader button
Ohh, I see what you mean, thank you.

OK, will fire up again and see how it goes
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  • #111
  • Nov 4, 2010 3:51pm Nov 4, 2010 3:51pm
Quoting p777m
I don't know if it is only on my platform but I noticed that the screen/dashboard is not refreshing every 1 second as it should but it seems it's only refreshing every tick.
...
Strange behavior. Even though it is just a cosmetic thing.

p777m
I had the same behaviour too.
Thanks to p777m, it made me remember that it should call "WindowRedraw();" to force it to redraw even if no tick comes in.

I added this call at the end of the DisplayBasket() function.

It works fine now.

SQ
  • #112
  • Nov 4, 2010 6:50pm Nov 4, 2010 6:50pm
The latest update is in post 1:

 

  1. added trading times
  2. sleep after basket closure also applies to closure after a basket hits its sl. I hope. It does not respond to baskets closed by systems external to this robot, such as mptm.
  3. BWB starts afresh with a new master basket once a basket has closed. I hope.

Now, I have had all sorts of emails, pms and 'solutions' to the requirement that the infinite loop employed by this bot sometimes needs suspending.

I tried some of them. After about an hour of useless thrashing around, I was in such a tangle that the only way to escape was to re-download the damn robot from post 1.

So, the next individual stupid enough to email, pm or solve this 'issue' will receive the full weight of my gratitude. Users can just damn well learn how to use robots that are not configured to respond to every single solitary damn whim that might cross their minds as a passing fancy. Like I did.

Also, and bearing in mind that I am not in the best of all possible moods tonight because I am tired because I did not sleep last night because my wife kept me awake, so forgive me if some of my words seem harsh. Or don't forgive me; I don't really care. Some posters here appear to be professing confusion about how the bot decides on how to trade. I am fairly sure I described this in post 1. These contributors could always try reading it. Novel idea, I know, but sometimes worth trying.

  • #113
  • Nov 4, 2010 6:52pm Nov 4, 2010 6:52pm
Quoting squalou
I had the same behaviour too.
Thanks to p777m, it made me remember that it should call "WindowRedraw();" to force it to redraw even if no tick comes in.

I added this call at the end of the DisplayBasket() function.

It works fine now.

SQ
It does. I added this and it makes a difference.

  • #114
  • Nov 4, 2010 7:41pm Nov 4, 2010 7:41pm
May the warm glow of our appreciation unlock something within to discover a whole other level of life enjoyment beyond the worn out horizons of yesterday.
  • #115
  • Nov 4, 2010 7:52pm Nov 4, 2010 7:52pm
Quoting Divyendu
May the warm glow of our appreciation unlock something within to discover a whole other level of life enjoyment beyond the worn out horizons of yesterday.
Amazing, the effect of a few soothing words.

Cheers.

  • #116
  • Nov 5, 2010 6:51am Nov 5, 2010 6:51am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Amazing, the effect of a few soothing words.

Cheers.

Just clear the stuff in the garden you promised, and hang those pictures... and stay away from forex ... actually scratch the last one
  • #117
  • Edited 8:27am Nov 5, 2010 7:18am | Edited 8:27am
Quoting SkyzerFX
Ohh, I see what you mean, thank you.

OK, will fire up again and see how it goes
Stop Loss Hit, Max DD -598 p Max Profit 5 pip (wow)

It would be more convenient if Max DD could be displayed in % (percentage

to account Balance)

Thank you.

P.S

Change settings to Use 0.10 lot

Profit target 5 pips (per trade)
MaxLoss=15 pips (per trade)

Sleep 30 min

Profit target was reached quickly.. I better take small portions of the $$$ at the time maybe I even going to lower

Stop loss to 10 pips, cause sometimes like 15 trades open 15 * 10= 150 pips Loss should be enough.
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  • #118
  • Nov 5, 2010 9:59am Nov 5, 2010 9:59am
Question is: With a bouquet of flowers.. sorry .. basket of trades, shouldnt the ups and downs of the different pairs cancel each other out, and therefore enable the use of a smaller stop loss?
I will trial 10 pip per pair SL and 10 pip per pair TP for a bit, and report back.
  • #119
  • Nov 5, 2010 10:20am Nov 5, 2010 10:20am
Just a thought, not sure how to implement this but.

Before taking a trade based on performance, watch for Pair Daily position

I mean, if sell then better below pivot and above Support 2 and if

Buy, then above pivot and below Resistance 2, that rule can save a lot

of pips, as buying Above Resistance 3 and Selling below Support 3 is

more likely will generate loss.. Since we have many pair to choose from,

that will also limit number of open positions, by filtering some trades out. IMHO.
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  • #120
  • Nov 5, 2010 10:50am Nov 5, 2010 10:50am
Just trew this up on a chart with sky's settings and it hit TP right away
waiting for next cycle

Steve... could the pop up be toggled on or off it keeps beeping and I have to keep hitting ok my employees' are asking what the heck it is
I told them it's my money machine LOL

error message pop up are ok though not sure if can happen up $ 28 since started typing this NICE
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