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  • #171,241
  • Dec 11, 2009 12:50pm Dec 11, 2009 12:50pm
Quoting quantz
I can survive down trend 150 pips from 1.4612. can i waiting for my numbers??

If we could tell you that with 100% certainty we would be billionaires instead of mere millionaires.

You need this to move back up to 47-48 before it gets down 150 pips? We are now at an area of consolidation the short boys are taking their profits, with a probable further move down before we reverse the retrace, will it stop at 150 pips, we'll see on Monday.

You need to decide if you can handle a further drawdown.

The nice thing about our little neighbourhood here is that you will probably get as many suggestions doing the exact opposite.

I for one still expect 54
  • #171,242
  • Dec 11, 2009 12:55pm Dec 11, 2009 12:55pm
ah so you are a millionaire :-)

Quoting cloggie
If we could tell you that with 100% certainty we would be billionaires instead of mere millionaires.

You need this to move back up to 47-48 before it gets down 150 pips? We are now at an area of consolidation the short boys are taking their profits, with a probable further move down before we reverse the retrace, will it stop at 150 pips, we'll see on Monday.

You need to decide if you can handle a further drawdown.
  • #171,243
  • Dec 11, 2009 12:58pm Dec 11, 2009 12:58pm
Quoting quantz
Can i waiting for 1.4640?? or waiting blows my account??:/
No one here can help you now.

Of course that 1.4640 can be reached, but this Bear move is very strong, I am not even so sure that 1.4585 will be today's low.
Only you now can manage your account.
The mistake you did, and open so many longs in this drop was not done only by you, I almost sure, but you are the brave one to show to all your trades.

1.4624 must be crossed now for next 3 M30 candles, to see your 1.4640 or near.
  • #171,244
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:01pm Dec 11, 2009 1:01pm
I think there is good chances that price go above 1.4623 but may or not close above though.
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  • #171,245
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:02pm Dec 11, 2009 1:02pm
Quoting BoredToLoose
No one here can help you now.

Of course that 1.4640 can be reached, but this Bear move is very strong, I am not even so sure that 1.4585 will be today's low.
Only you now can manage your account.
The mistake you did, and open so many longs in this drop was not done only by you, I almost sure, but you are the brave one to show to all your trades.

1.4624 must be crossed now for next 3 M30 candles, to see your 1.4640 or near.
i have biggest position near 0. maybe i can close this and wait for better entry for retreat??
  • #171,246
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:16pm Dec 11, 2009 1:16pm
Quoting quantz
i have biggest position near 0. maybe i can close this and wait for better entry for retreat??

What do you mean with Position near 0.

Let me see, if price goes to 1.4640 you will Break Even your trades, am I right?
And if drop more 150 pips, you will lose your account.
And about Money Management, do not trade like that!!
  • #171,247
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:20pm Dec 11, 2009 1:20pm
Quoting BoredToLoose
What do you mean with Position near 0.

Let me see, if price goes to 1.4640 you will Break Even your trades, am I right?
And if drop more 150 pips, you will lose your account.
And about Money Management, do not trade like that!!
i know it really shit system on martingale system the last positions is biggest now i have got 7 position on lose and lastest is on plus.
when i close this position i will survive more than 150 pips but Break Even will be at neat 1.47
  • #171,248
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:25pm Dec 11, 2009 1:25pm
Quoting quantz
i know it really shit system on martingale system the last positions is biggest now i have got 7 position on lose and lastest is on plus.
when i close this position i will survive more than 150 pips but Break Even will be at neat 1.47
I don't know about the system.
Well, I think you are really depending what will happen next Monday or maybe you get lucky to price goes to 1.4640 today, but I have my doubts.

I am myself waiting to see today's close, if will be above or below 1.4622.
You must have nerves of steal, I will not advice you, you must do your own decision. Sorry!
  • #171,249
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:29pm Dec 11, 2009 1:29pm
Quoting BoredToLoose
I don't know about the system.
Well, I think you are really depending what will happen next Monday or maybe you get lucky to price goes to 1.4640 today, but I have my doubts.

I am myself waiting to see today's close, if will be above or below 1.4622.
You must have nerves of steal, I will not advice you, you must do your own decision. Sorry!
Now i sitting on the ticking bombwe will see that my account survive
  • #171,250
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:30pm Dec 11, 2009 1:30pm
Quoting quantz
Can i waiting for 1.4640?? or waiting blows my account??:/
well this is the thing with not using a stop loss..i have lost 3 trades today because i had 20 pips stop loss without it i might have had 3 winners...now u in a situation where it is all or nothing..nobody knows

and if dollar weekly close stay like this... price will fall like a stone...next time use stop loss

good luck
  • #171,251
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:33pm Dec 11, 2009 1:33pm
Quoting quantz
hello everyone

Im using a martiangle system today i have got really bad situation. i want to ask you what can i do?? waiting for short uptrend or close all positions with big lose on the JPG you see my picture
I got even more orders open, not worried.. This Funky Dollar will dive

like a hungry duck for tasty fish.. This was a move to take every ones

SL out. Now time to move up.., Besides GBPUSD is fine and other pairs

doing ok.. It's typical when Market running from 1 extreme to the other..

I'll keep buying GOLD and short Dollar... Not advising anything, I'm just

sticking to my own System and System tells me to buy. Though I have

some other Pairs doing fine.. USD will drop down like a rock, soon..

But please stick to your own conclusions.. Thanks.
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  • #171,252
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:35pm Dec 11, 2009 1:35pm
Quoting quantz
Now i sitting on the ticking bombwe will see that my account survive
I hope it comes back for you. But if you keep averaging down as a system, it is only a matter of time before you lose your account. Good trades to you.
  • #171,253
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:36pm Dec 11, 2009 1:36pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
I got even more orders open, not worried.. This Funky Dollar will dive

like a hungry duck for tasty fish.. This was a move to take every ones

SL out. Now time to move up.., Besides GBPUSD is fine and other pairs

doing ok.. It's typical when Market running from 1 extreme to the other..

I'll keep buying GOLD and short Dollar... Not advising anything, I'm just

sticking to my own System and System tells me to buy. Though I have

some other Pairs doing fine.. USD will drop down like a rock, soon..

But please stick to your own conclusions.....
are you using martingale too?? you have many opened positions
  • #171,254
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:36pm Dec 11, 2009 1:36pm
Quoting nAVIN2007
well this is the thing with not using a stop loss..i have lost 3 trades today because i had 20 pips stop loss without it i might have had 3 winners...now u in a situation where it is all or nothing..nobody knows

and if dollar weekly close stay like this... price will fall like a stone...next time use stop loss

good luck
I don't know where it goes from here to take out unfortunet stoplosses, probably both ways?? But, I think that as soon as trading here stops, the price will go bannanas. And I do't mean up! I will hold a very small short through the weekend. I expect that it will pay very well..
Ah Luv the smell of a good prediction in the mornin!
  • #171,255
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:40pm Dec 11, 2009 1:40pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
I got even more orders open, not worried.. This Funky Dollar will dive

like a hungry duck for tasty fish.. This was a move to take every ones

SL out. Now time to move up.., Besides GBPUSD is fine and other pairs

doing ok.. It's typical when Market running from 1 extreme to the other..

I'll keep buying GOLD and short Dollar... Not advising anything, I'm just

sticking to my own System and System tells me to buy. Though I have

some other Pairs doing fine.. USD will drop down like a rock, soon..

But please stick to your own conclusions.....


Ignorance is bliss... Averaging in = poor timing and ego problems

It is beyond me why some of yous' love drawdowns so much? Is it an ego thing?

DRAWDOWNS DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR YOUR ACCOUNT, STOP TOLERATING THEM. (Unless your account has infinitum properties and you earn decent interest on your positions). Drawdown = wasted capital

Gees.... If your wrong, your wrong... admit it by letting go of a loosing trade.
  • #171,256
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:42pm Dec 11, 2009 1:42pm
Quoting Artcritique
I don't know where it goes from here to take out unfortunet stoplosses, probably both ways?? But, I think that as soon as trading here stops, the price will go bannanas. And I do't mean up! I will hold a very small short through the weekend. I expect that it will pay very well..

to be honest i was short bias 3 week b4 it happened...when the trend was up...now its broke the weekly trendline, i thought it go back up toward 1.50 to test the upper part of the trendline its just falling

whether it is fake or real make no difference, price is falling and trend does appear to have changed.. it can quite easilly fall 200 pips b4 it goes up 200 pips..

i lost 3 trades trying to catch a retrace instead of going with the trend..going with trend is the best idea..oh well..what can we do
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  • #171,257
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:44pm Dec 11, 2009 1:44pm
Quoting quantz
Now i sitting on the ticking bombwe will see that my account survive
And everybody has one, This whole down trend has been a retrace to the weekly. Stocks and eu correlation still intact. Stocks starting to rebound, eu going into consolidation mode until the fomc statement next week. I see a further slip towards the 4530ish area, but still expect the weekly uptrend to hold strong after the announcement. Good luck!
Oh and in regards to the eu and stock seeming like the correlation was breaking, eu seemed to be climbing to levels that stocks weren't ready to hit. You'll notice that sometimes eu rides the s&p heavier in one direction than another.
All that is left in FF is just plain garbage. "Cloggie"
  • #171,258
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:46pm Dec 11, 2009 1:46pm
Quoting quantz
are you using martingale too?? you have many opened positions
Not exactly.. I start with the small and moving in like

0.40

0.50

0.60


Every 100 pips depends on the pair volatility and spreding those order like

0.40 every 100 pips = 0.08 every 20 pips

0.50 every 100 pips = 0.10 every 20 pips

and so on..

So I'm still fine.. When all those Bankers are ready to make money other

way, I will make lot of $$$. Just need to stick to the system and not listen

anyone.. Was burn few times exactly because listen same crap that Cable going to 1.53 and I change My longs for Shorts and next few days Cable run

400 pips up.. This working like an ARCH, lower it goes down in short time

higher it's going to shoot back.. Just WATCH!!!
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  • #171,259
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:47pm Dec 11, 2009 1:47pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
I got even more orders open, not worried.. This Funky Dollar will dive

like a hungry duck for tasty fish.. This was a move to take every ones

SL out. Now time to move up.., Besides GBPUSD is fine and other pairs

doing ok.. It's typical when Market running from 1 extreme to the other..

I'll keep buying GOLD and short Dollar... Not advising anything, I'm just

sticking to my own System and System tells me to buy. Though I have

some other Pairs doing fine.. USD will drop down like a rock, soon..

But please stick to your own conclusions.. Thanks....

i have no guts to try that on a live account just demo..u might be right but it will be luck nothing else
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  • #171,260
  • Dec 11, 2009 1:48pm Dec 11, 2009 1:48pm
Quoting quantz
Now i sitting on the ticking bombwe will see that my account survive
Unfortunately it looks like a flag pattern now, which doesn't bode well. If you see this message scroll up a ways, I mentioned a (free) martingale I use...

Paul
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