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  • #4,641
  • Jul 4, 2022 4:30am Jul 4, 2022 4:30am
Quoting Kwt4x
{quote} I'm not sure what TRADING has to do anything with MEASURING, both Fibonacci and GANN are all about measuring to show you future major levels, what you do with the measuring is your problem not theirs. studying GANN is to check if the math is correct, if it is, you should trust it and apply it correctly so you can plan your strategy based on the trusted measuring, and it will be impossible to fail. but if you do fail, you should blame your strategy not the math, because you already confirmed the math was correct.
Kwt4x do you work in a bank, or a fund ?

because what you write is exactly what my financial counselor(s) told me when my money was invested in funds (whatever funds):

when my account is in profit , the cause is the excellency of the bank management ( even if in percentage they have done less than the market)

when my account is in red , this is the risk inherent to invest my money in the market.

variant : right now after the krach (they have not pronosticated) , market is low and will go up soon. Their best advice is "invest more money in our funds"

  • #4,642
  • Jul 4, 2022 5:02am Jul 4, 2022 5:02am
DAX 1 mn

Quadrilateral

I am not a Jenkins Fan
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  • #4,643
  • Jul 4, 2022 5:22am Jul 4, 2022 5:22am
I use cycle lines of 40 bars in 15 minute chart. It works most of the time.

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  • Jul 4, 2022 5:31am Jul 4, 2022 5:31am
40 bar Fibonacci time in 15m chart
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  • #4,645
  • Jul 4, 2022 5:52am Jul 4, 2022 5:52am
Quoting Kwt4x
{quote} I'm not sure what TRADING has to do anything with MEASURING, both Fibonacci and GANN are all about measuring to show you future major levels, what you do with the measuring is your problem not theirs. studying GANN is to check if the math is correct, if it is, you should trust it and apply it correctly so you can plan your strategy based on the trusted measuring, and it will be impossible to fail. but if you do fail, you should blame your strategy not the math, because you already confirmed the math was correct. I left this thread because...
Kwt4x I have read your last posts on FF since mid-february 2022 . Most of them are not related to the market and those which are are unfortunately only general. Could you point me on the posts where it is possible to learn the correct Gann Maths to use to decipher the market. TIA

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post14000285 you posted : Hi Ata, Aqua: 2021 1*1 Grid Magenta: strongest 1*1 high's and low's - May 13, 2022 11:32pm


https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post13910181 you posted : Stay safe my friend - Feb 24, 2022 5:28pm -

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post13909528 you posted : from Captain Nemo to Thor, my regards to Asgard
filling the forms for a visa - Feb 24, 2022 11:57am

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post13898680 you posted : you are welcome my friend. there is always something new to learn(or reminded of), so we will always be students. I don't think you can stop sharing, and you just opened my appetite for scalping again, so THANK you for sharing your knowledge cheers, - Feb 16, 2022 8:56am

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post13898636 you posted : with the FACT of "the market is always there" and "tomorrow is another day" , both losing and missing should mean nothing, except "lessons learned" to improve trading.but of course, FEAR and GREED is always there, and hard to get rid of them in short period. - cheers - Feb 16, 2022 8:27am

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post13897150 you posted : GBP is on steroids - Feb 15, 2022 9:35am

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post13896659 you posted : just make sure he is not Scottish or you have to wear a Kilt - Feb 14, 2022 10:06pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post13896652 you posted :
you welcome Bro,nthat exactly the definition of cycles(waves), when all TF agree at a top that cycle(wave) is the DAILY peak, then the H1 start a LH-LL and agrees more with the H4 LH-LL until the end of the DAILY low, then start all over again with new trend. so, the direction belong to the biggest cycle(wave). - Feb 14, 2022 10:00pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post13896600 you posted : oh, my bad then. selling fish to a fisher - Feb 14, 2022 9:15pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post13896594 you posted : Cycles are Fractal System, every TF has a trading cycle, but smaller TF Cycle will be within a bigger one and so on. even in the same TF, there is multi cycles according to the Law of Vibration, the bigger cycle might have multi cycles of a smaller one. so, he mentioned the trade cycle without identifying what TF. Feb 14, 2022 9:08pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post13896558
Hi Jolita, this will have negative effect when going live, the fear factor will kick in and you will find yourself in new territory that you never practiced. treat the demo as if it's real account, same fund that you will open with, and lot size not more than 1% . this will be like real simulator for future real account. the idea is to practice best entries and exits as best as you can. when you go live you will be in common ground with no surprises. cheers Feb 14, 2022 8:46pm
  • #4,646
  • Edited 6:32am Jul 4, 2022 6:21am | Edited 6:32am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Kwt4x I have read your last posts on FF since mid-february 2022 . Most of them are not related to the market and those which are are unfortunately only general. Could you point me on the posts where it is possible to learn the correct Gann Maths to use to decipher the market. TIA https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post14000285 you posted : Hi Ata, Aqua: 2021 1*1 Grid Magenta: strongest 1*1 high's and low's - May 13, 2022 11:32pm https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post13910181 you posted...
LMAO, I can see you are feeling the PAIN from calling you a FRAUD hahaha

why don't you explain to members about all the years you have been quoting and preaching GANN and now you call him marketeer & bullshitter.

how can anyone trust you anymore ?

I WAS right by calling you "wannabe GANN" 2 years ago
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post13250861
"the public is not yet ready for it" W.D. GANN
  • #4,647
  • Edited 7:51am Jul 4, 2022 7:32am | Edited 7:51am
Quoting Kwt4x
{quote} LMAO, I can see you are feeling the PAIN from calling you a FRAUD hahaha why don't you explain to members about all the years you have been quoting and preaching GANN and now you call him marketeer & bullshitter. how can anyone trust you anymore ? I WAS right by calling you "wannabe GANN" 2 years ago https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post13250861
Kwt4x , more I read your posts, more I am amazed by their level of technicality, the precision of your forecasts, and your extensive knowledge of Gann Tools and Methodologies. Thanks for sharing with us.


https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post13896407 you posted : not fair man, your hint looked more fundamental than technical Feb 14, 2022 7:05pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post13896394 you posted : so many reasons very high inflation markets @ all time high's closed Fed meeting Waveskier(The Stare)rob still short Feb 14, 2022 6:56pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post13896345 you posted : out almost BE :/ Captain Nemo, I request permission to go ashore Feb 14, 2022 6:14pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post13894484 you posted : best wish's my friend cheers, Feb 12, 2022 8:09pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post13894482 you posted : measurements are needed to organize everything.
the fractal system is waves within waves, my original 3M reading will be within the Y2 Y3 that you suggested, so, we are both right. but inside the year smaller readings are more tradable.I don't see much of math charts, that's the reason of my comment. I don't mind to be wrong.
posting the chart was not to explain it, I was agreeing with you on historical swing reading. but to explain it, it's full 360 cycles of 2 4 8 and 16 angled grids. cheers,

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post13894427 you posted : 100% is not an issue, the lot size will be a factor in that. but your focus should be on executing your strategy as prefect as you can. my worst week is 4% , when I'm away from trading most of the time and using swing methods. Pat(The Shark) scalp most days and I'm sure he pass 1%/day , and just imagine what waveskier(The Stare)rob can make no matter what trading style you use, just trade it perfectly. the money will take care of it self. Feb 12, 2022 6:07pm
Feb 12, 2022 12:51pm
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post13894376 you posted : I'm trying to be closest to his mindset my friend no point in using advanced measurements since no one is interested in math. zoomed out Feb 12, 2022 4:08pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post13894275 you posted :
Hi trumps, since your chart is 12months candle, the current candle is a LIVE candle and has 10 months to go for close, you can not base your decisions or reading on live candle unless closed. a weekly chart with period separator show 1 year/52 bars. an indicator like Donchian Channel calculate high/low/50% of a period close (in this case 52 is the setting) a ZZ with 13 setting give you the reading(HHHL-LHLL) of 3 months (1/4 of a year) Feb 12, 2022 12:51pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post13893979 you posted : that exactly what I feel like right now, take a nap and wait for next reading :/ I'm only losing time never money Feb 11, 2022 10:18pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...3#post13893953 you posted : missed my exit on GJ while outside and it dropped 160+ :/: so, permission to come aboard Captain Nemo Feb 11, 2022 9:53pm
  • #4,648
  • Jul 4, 2022 7:55am Jul 4, 2022 7:55am
Quoting Kwt4x
{quote} LMAO, I can see you are feeling the PAIN from calling you a FRAUD hahaha why don't you explain to members about all the years you have been quoting and preaching GANN and now you call him marketeer & bullshitter. how can anyone trust you anymore ? I WAS right by calling you "wannabe GANN" 2 years ago https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post13250861
Amazing useful posts ! Thanks for sharing with us.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post13891612 you posted ; you starting to scare me. you forced the week to go sideway :/ Feb 10, 2022 3:29pm

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post13891084 you posted : you are killing me read your post + my system gave me the finger = closed majority GJ thankfully I have some open waiting for a pullback to add, but the rally happened :/ I'm adding point #4: never read Pat Chico posts while trading. LOL Feb 10, 2022 10:27am

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post13890926 you posted : Who has successfully traded demo accounts numerous times only to fail when it comes to real trading, so what does this tell you , using a big bank and smallest lots is the closest you can get to demo, don't be in a hurry to make your millions but a steady drip fills the pot , just something to think about Feb 10, 2022 9:01am
  • #4,649
  • Jul 4, 2022 10:34am Jul 4, 2022 10:34am
Quoting parisboy
GBPUSD 15 mn {image}
HI Parisboy and oapdave,
Similar tech (or idea) , and different software give best vision. Important is to evaluate correctly amplitude.
if you look at this graph later,
the move will proove that the amplitude retained for the enveloppe was wrong.
I'll be able to demonstrate it, if my graph is validated for publishing. Not sure, 20 years experience but here my status is junior member.
Good luck.
  • #4,650
  • Jul 4, 2022 3:25pm Jul 4, 2022 3:25pm
Quoting blueRocket
{quote} HI Parisboy and oapdave, Similar tech (or idea) , and different software give best vision. Important is to evaluate correctly amplitude. if you look at this graph later, the move will proove that the amplitude retained for the enveloppe was wrong /...
Using ATR to evaluate envelope amplitude.
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  • #4,651
  • Jul 5, 2022 4:16am Jul 5, 2022 4:16am
BTCUSD 1 mn

Understaning the Mid Channel Pause or the Straddle Trough

always refer to the theory for a better understanding of how Cycles generate Chart Patterns
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  • Jul 5, 2022 7:05am Jul 5, 2022 7:05am
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  • #4,653
  • Jul 5, 2022 1:07pm Jul 5, 2022 1:07pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} Same here....trading and losses go together, the problem arises when we start thinking we know what will happen next by relying solely on our analyses...and avoid using stops

Gann - 45 Years in Wall Street (1949)
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  • #4,654
  • Jul 5, 2022 1:16pm Jul 5, 2022 1:16pm
Quoting Swede
Entry at Big Round Number, Divergence on the OsMa, Stop was only 5 pips and the trade was based on the oversold condition of Cable with a 50% Fib retrace.....Net 34 pips.....one a day is all one needs...lol Simple Low Risk Trade....and Risk is what trading is all about...manage it and you can manage a fortune {image}
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  • #4,655
  • Jul 5, 2022 3:03pm Jul 5, 2022 3:03pm
Penetrating the Essence of Gann

A Personal Appreciation of the Work of Kwt4x
By Kenneth M.

Kwt4x and I met about fifteen years ago at a Gann conference. Immediately, one could recognize a brilliant mind, one that could see patterns, processes, and underlying order in whatever Kwt4x was interested in.

Gann’s works were his interest, and Kwt4x displayed from the outset an affinity for understanding the subject as a whole. Trained as a physician, with an undergraduate degree in Mathematics, Kwt4x possessed a skill set of tools, the mathematics, and a penetrating ability to “see” both what is seen and what is not seen, the diagnostician.

Kwt4x has a profound gift of seeing patterns and of perceiving the underlying order within whatever subject he directs his attention towards.

Additionally, Kwt4x has the gift of perceiving not only what is truly being said, but more importantly, what is not. Kwt4x has taken on the works of W. D. Gann and Dr. Jerome Baumring in a total immersion. his tenacity, will, and energy have been the sails, the current, and the wind of his voyage through the illusory and sometimes rocky waters of W. D. Gann.

Kwt4x is also unique in that there are very few, almost none in fact, in the W. D. Gann community that actually understand and can apply the deepest secrets of Gann. While many try to mystify, monopolize or claim W. D. Gann’s secrets as their own, Kwt4x has ever strived to seek the truth, the real truth—and also to express it plainly spoken.

Kwt4x shared with me his entire set of notebooks containing his journey through Gann, so I know what is to come through this series of works that begins with Patterns created by wave mechanics, then moves on to Numbers and Harmonics, followed by a work on Gann’s secret astrological system, and concluding with a full explanation of the Geometry at the base of Gann’s work.

As alluded to above, Kwt4x was self-taught in all that he needed to know. It was a difficult journey, as ofttimes, no one really knows ahead of time what they need to know. I was frequently amazed at his uncanny ability to intuitively know what to study and to what depth he needed to go. Kwt4x was undaunted by lack of experience or requisite knowledge, and dove with determination into whatever he needed to know in order to decipher Gann.

For many years, for reasons not of our concern, Kwt4x has kept this knowledge close to his vest, but he has privately expressed from the beginning of my acquaintance and subsequent friendship with him, the strong desire to share what he has learned. The first piece of the crown of his work has recently been released by Sacred Science Institute, after long awaiting by myself and others, with a longer series of 4 volumes on the way over the next couple years. Kwt4x privately conveyed to me that this present series of work is to be his legacy to his children and to the world.

Kwt4x possesses unusual tenacity and when faced with obstacles of any kind, he quietly and persistently works through them. Where he lacked knowledge of music or tuning theory, he found it; astrology, he found it; programming, he found it; symbolism in the Bible, he found it; and so on.

Another example is that much of the early Neo-Pythagoreanism, which is the basis of modern numerology, is but a means of expressing patterns and structure in nature through numbers.

Kwt4x cut through the nonsense and went straight to the roots of what Gann was doing with the numbers. You will learn more about that in the second volume of this series.

In his notebooks, Kwt4x structured his study almost as a dialogue, asking himself a series of questions about the work or subject, and then proceeding to seek the answers. Plato’s dialogue as a didactive method is superior to almost any other, and leads one to deep insights beyond the face of any study. I think this is the principle technique Kwt4x used to gain the knowledge that he is about to share with you. I strongly suggest that you consider mimicking his process by writing down the questions that will naturally pop up as you read his works, and then take these questions on one by one seeking the answers.

In Volume Three of the series, Kwt4x takes on the planets and planetary cycles. Here is where I helped him most, as this is my specialty. Kwt4x perceived concepts and techniques directly from reading Gann (and his The Tunnel Thru the Air especially). What he did not know, and did not really need to know, was just how close he was to an understanding of some of the more obscure parts and techniques of Ptolemy and the ancient Astrologers.

One application, which I leave to Kwt4x to reveal at the proper time, is in my estimation, the jewel in the crown of everything you need to know about Ancient Astronomy and Astrology. This technique is found hidden in plain sight within George Bayer, and the Bible, too, and is not just in The Tunnel Thru the Air. Another crown jewel is his deciphering of the real use of certain aspects of Ancient Astronomy and Astrology relating to the particular division of the zodiac.

Again, I will not steal his thunder. I honor him, because no one, aside from an ivory towered student like myself, would ever see it. And unlike me, Kwt4x discovered a very practical application to use it for market analysis. It’s amazing to see this working, and it will all be revealed in Volume Three.

His study of geometry is completely out of the box. Personally, I understand this approach the least of all, and will only comment that his treatment of the subject, like so much of what he has uncovered in general, is not the conventional, and Kwt4x reaches into truths and applications not found anywhere else outside of Baumring. Much of his insight is truly simple, and demonstrates how most of us have been misled by overcomplications of the work.

Back to his first recently released volume, The Law of Vibration by the Patterns. Here Kwt4x deals with the mathematics of music theory, and applies simple principles of engineering to the study of theoretical wave mechanics. This was an important and fundamental lesson from Jerome Baumring’s curriculum, and in this first Volume, Kwt4x has deciphered and applied the subject most ably.

As an engineer myself by training and profession, I, like most of my kind, made the study either too hard, or demanded too much exactitude, when an open mind and a lot of elbow grease were what was really needed. Lorrie constructed a method to organize the study so as to make what began as a theoretical examination into a valuable and practical application. This provides a clear and natural place to begin the journey of exploration through which her series will guide the reader into deeper and greater stages of Gann and market revelation. It is a foundation that you will depend upon throughout the entire study.

One particular area of her work which is completely unique is her treatment of Gann’s final book,
The Magic Word.

No one has ever provided a meaningful explanation of Gann’s intention with this small and very abstract work filled primarily with Bible quotations. If any other besides he has any insight into that book, they are keeping it to themselves. Lorrie, however, has deciphered a code within it, containing an insight into numbers, which elaborates the essence of Gann’s most profound insights.

That understanding and application will be laid open for members of his educational series.
Kwt4x has unraveled a huge mystery in the field of W. D. Gann, and his work is impressive by any standard. Kwt4x worked carefully and alone for many years. Kwt4x had to; few people understood him or his genius. Many wanted to steal his work and some of the smaller minded purveyors of Gann secrets have castigated and ostracized him, as there is nothing like the truth to raise the hackles of those who claim to know when they actually do not.

Kwt4x does know, and he is now ready to open up to the world a wonderful treasure. It is my honor and privilege to introduce this body of knowledge, and I think that all of you who touch this work will apprehend with the same awe the magic that is in his words…

Kwt4x courses present a real map to a real treasure—treasure that is likened unto the Horn of Althea in that it will pour forth insight after insight and if held by persistent hands will yield an important and fundamental toolset towards the understanding and application of the works of W. D. Gann.

Kwt4x is going to take his students there through the conduit of Dr. Jerome Baumring and later, through one of himself. Kwt4x has no antecedents beyond W. D. Gann and Jerome Baumring.

Kwt4x is unique in the community of Gann researchers not only for the aforementioned reason, but also—and most importantly—because unlike most before him, he is going to show the work to you without reservation. No half explanations or double-talk here, nor that puerile game of “I’ve got a secret,” so prevalent in this field. Kwt4x has earned a real place of great respect as one of the best interpreters and appliers of the deepest level of Gann Theory I have come across! But I respect him even more in being willing to come out and share the fruits of his long labors with the serious Gann community.
  • #4,656
  • Edited 3:55pm Jul 5, 2022 3:42pm | Edited 3:55pm
Quoting Swede
So, all this negative banter between you and Kw is all bullshit? Thought something was up. Bye!
Swede it is just an article about Dr Lorrie Bennett who published 4 volumes on Gann (secrets) for something like 25.000 $.

I just replaced Dr Lorrie Bennett or Lorrie in the article by Kwt4x - just so that everybody could feel the hype , the exaggeration and some more. Swede do you smell the "some more" ?

Instead of Kwt4x I could have used Parisboy, Swede, OAPDave whatever but Kwt4x as a true believer in Gann is more significant. May be it will help Kwt4x to wake up.

It is just to show everybody that this "Gann community" is just a cash machine borderline of fraud and mafia.

Hereunder you will find the true article

https://www.sacredscienceinstitute.c...f9ojp0&OnSSI=1

Notice that in no way it forbids us to use Octaves or Angles in our Trading.
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  • #4,657
  • Jul 5, 2022 11:39pm Jul 5, 2022 11:39pm
NAS100 reached the bottom of the dayChanel (CCurv).
Not now Dow .. / is it significant that a question.
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  • #4,658
  • Edited 2:30am Jul 6, 2022 1:31am | Edited 2:30am
Quoting saslam
I use cycle lines of 40 bars in 15 minute chart. It works most of the time. {image} {image}
Hello Saslam,
please read https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...sting?page=229 post n°4561

your 40 bars on 15 min chart is wrong...the real n° is very little plus...and represent the number of hours of the beginning of timing window for 2 day cycle!!
12 hours on 15 min chart are 48 bars...but also this number is wrong...find yourself this number,I gave you my little help!

15 min cycle is EQUAL to 15 day cycle
30 min cycle is EQUAL to 30 day cycle
1 hour cycle (60 min) is EQUAL to 60 day cycle
2 hour cycle is EQUAL to 2 day cycle
sometimes cycles are little longer...sometimes are little shorter BUT they will finish ALWAYS in their own timing window

this chart is today EURUSD 15 min chart...please count n of bars from red to red and from fuchsia to fuchsia
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  • #4,659
  • Jul 6, 2022 1:48am Jul 6, 2022 1:48am
this 3D is titled TIME AND PRICE FORCASTING.....so I must be prepared in advance when TIME is ok!!!
please read my previous posts on 5 min real time charts where I was prepared in advance to enter long during a trend down
  • #4,660
  • Jul 6, 2022 1:53am Jul 6, 2022 1:53am
this is the same chart of today eurusd but 5 min chart....you see from A to B the 1hour cycle...how many bars?????
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