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  • Jul 6, 2021 9:02pm Jul 6, 2021 9:02pm
  •  LauraT
  • Joined Apr 2020 | Status: Daylight Roadmapper | 1,273 Posts
I didn't get around to posting any trades during the day, sorry about that. However, I couldn't sleep tonight so thought I'd discuss a trade as people seem to want to know more about entries, trade management and exits.

The trade itself is nothing special but it does contain quite a few reference points that I think are worth highlighting. I've marked up the chart as follows:

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Let's start on the left hand side of the chart. We get a High followed by a Higher High. The trend is still up. The market then makes a Structure Low. By that, I mean the market sold off and then rejected the area and went higher. We now know this area is 'protected'.

As expected in an uptrend, the market confirms the direction by putting in a couple of Higher Lows. Now, the next part takes me back to something I mentioned in passing previously but it probably requires more emphasis so please excuse me for using bold text 'context is everything!' Keep in mind we are in a strong uptrend. What often happens at the end of a strong trend is the market goes from an orderly rise/decline to an exaggerated final push. Otherwise known as an Exhaustion Top or Exhaustion Bottom.

How do we know it's an Exhaustion Top in this case? Well, we don't. Not right away. But we gradually gather the clues. First, the most recent Higher Low is broken. Then we get a Lower High followed by another Lower Low. This should not happen in a healthy uptrend. So, we now believe the tide is turning and there might be a short opportunity. We should jump straight in! Well, no - we really shouldn't. Why? Because of our old friend the Structure Low. We need the market to test it and break it.

We do get the test (twice) of the Structure Low and third time is a charm as it breaks. Some people like to wait for a further re-test from below but I prefer not to risk missing the train so I get in straight away after the break. It then becomes a smooth ride down without much support. However, I was conscious of Yesterday's High sitting just below and realised it was possible the market would react and potentially bounce there.

I watched it closely at that level but it sailed right through, so I stayed in my position. I eventually decided it was time to bail out when I saw two things happening. The market went into a mini consolidation phase (lower highs and higher lows) and then broke that mini consolidation to the upside. That, together with the fact the low held firm, told me the party was over.

Notice that I've not even mentioned Daylight yet. Now let's take another quick look at the sub-window moving averages. The slow moving average went below -50 and the fast moving average stayed under the slow. Perfect conditions for shorting a market. But hopefully you see that, without context, the signal itself isn't enough.

Please let me know if this type of analysis is helpful or not. I'm happy to post a few more examples as the thread progresses if people find it useful.
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  • Jul 6, 2021 9:42pm Jul 6, 2021 9:42pm
  •  spyderman
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Took this "channel failure" a bit early but thought since its been riding the SMA200 down... Any critique is welcome. {image}
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Previous NzdChf short stopped out. After break to the upside and return to the trendline break and SMA200 I took this long. Still getting my legs on this so we'll see.

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  •  spyderman
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Quoting LauraT
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Please let me know if this type of analysis is helpful or not. I'm happy to post a few more examples as the thread progresses if people find it useful.
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Love the analysis Laura. Please keep it up.
 
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  • Jul 6, 2021 10:04pm Jul 6, 2021 10:04pm
  •  Jakepuia
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Quoting LauraT
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I didn't get around to posting any trades during the day, sorry about that. However, I couldn't sleep tonight so thought I'd discuss a trade as people seem to want to know more about entries, trade management and exits. The trade itself is nothing special but it does contain quite a few reference points that I think are worth highlighting. I've marked up the chart as follows: {image} Let's start on the left hand side of the chart. We get a High followed by a Higher High. The trend is still up. The market then makes a Structure Low. By that, I mean...
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Very very helpful for me. Thanks alot. Please post more chart of your trades, that will also be very helpful too.
Jakepuia
 
 
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  • Jul 6, 2021 10:37pm Jul 6, 2021 10:37pm
  •  AngieT
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I dont use this system but look in from time to time

try adding this indi to show trending or consolidating

between lines in consolidating.
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  • Jul 7, 2021 3:35am Jul 7, 2021 3:35am
  •  birdland
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Quoting LauraT
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I didn't get around to posting any trades during the day, sorry about that. However, I couldn't sleep tonight so thought I'd discuss a trade as people seem to want to know more about entries, trade management and exits. The trade itself is nothing special but it does contain quite a few reference points that I think are worth highlighting. I've marked up the chart as follows: {image} Let's start on the left hand side of the chart. We get a High followed by a Higher High. The trend is still up. The market then makes a Structure Low. By that, I mean...
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some people like to watch instagram or facebook news.

i prefer to read your analysis, its pure fun! thx.

a musician reads notes, a chartist charts.
I know that you and I know nothing.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 3:45am Jul 7, 2021 3:45am
  •  Jakepuia
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So far so good
Gold bias so far is bullish
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  • Jul 7, 2021 5:17am Jul 7, 2021 5:17am
  •  marzinsz
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So far so good Gold bias so far is bullish {image}
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Hello, are settings default to BB?.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 5:56am Jul 7, 2021 5:56am
  •  40PipsAlan
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Having a go on Oil.
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:00am Jul 7, 2021 6:00am
  •  TradersLand
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Hello Friends,

I took a version of this system and tested it for 100 trades in a row taking every trade. The results are very promising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFxLh4G2Aoo
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:26am Jul 7, 2021 6:26am
  •  LauraT
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Hello Friends, I took a version of this system and tested it for 100 trades in a row taking every trade. The results are very promising. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFxLh4G2Aoo
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Hi,

Thank you for taking the time to test my strategy. Hopefully this will provide some comfort to those who want to know if an inherent edge exists.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:42am Jul 7, 2021 6:42am
  •  Rioja
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Took a small loss on GBPAUD this morning, comments welcome on where I could improve. I probably got out of the trade too early as had I waited I could have exited with a small profit.
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:47am Jul 7, 2021 6:47am
  •  Jakepuia
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Quoting marzinsz
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{quote} Hello, are settings default to BB?.
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yes, default
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:48am Jul 7, 2021 6:48am
  •  turnip15
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Took a small loss on GBPAUD this morning, comments welcome on where I could improve. I probably got out of the trade too early as had I waited I could have exited with a small profit. {image}
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Maybe you got in far too late -fourteen candles too late from the red arrow pointing at the 200ma.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:50am Jul 7, 2021 6:50am
  •  LauraT
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Quoting Rioja
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Took a small loss on GBPAUD this morning, comments welcome on where I could improve. I probably got out of the trade too early as had I waited I could have exited with a small profit. {image}
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Hi,

Although I understand why you entered there, I'd say you were getting into a move that had already happened.

Try to get in on pretty fresh crosses of the sub-window MAs if you can. That will generally yield better results than entering moves that are already quite extended.

Also, if you look to the left of your chart you'll see that price was entering a bit of a consolidation zone from 5th/6th. That suggested things could get a little messy in that area.

Hope this helps.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:55am Jul 7, 2021 6:55am
  •  40PipsAlan
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Quoting Rioja
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Took a small loss on GBPAUD this morning, comments welcome on where I could improve. I probably got out of the trade too early as had I waited I could have exited with a small profit. {image}
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Maybe wait for a sell signal below the 200 SMA?
I also got caught out on this one. H1 chart gave a sell signal and turned instantly.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 6:58am Jul 7, 2021 6:58am
  •  40PipsAlan
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Having a go on this one too. EN H1 chart
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  • Jul 7, 2021 7:01am Jul 7, 2021 7:01am
  •  AlanAA
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{quote} Hi, Thank you for taking the time to test my strategy. Hopefully this will provide some comfort to those who want to know if an inherent edge exists.
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100 trades have 0 statistical significance.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 7:03am Jul 7, 2021 7:03am
  •  LauraT
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{quote} Maybe wait for a sell signal below the 200 SMA?
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When the SMA200 is flat, it won't be much help. Actually better to find other opportunities when encountering that sort of picture. Contrast it with the chart you just posted, where the big moving average is gradually continuing down.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2021 7:10am Jul 7, 2021 7:10am
  •  Rioja
  • | Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Member | 14 Posts
Thanks for all the input, yeh I think I got fixated with price being below 200SMA before entering, instead I should have used 200SMA as a likely TP area.
 
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