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  • #1,182,721
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:06pm Sep 4, 2020 6:06pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} Yes, I am in a long position on EURUSD.
Cool, was wondering which pay you guys were hedging
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  • #1,182,722
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:07pm Sep 4, 2020 6:07pm
Quoting GannTrdr
{quote} I am holding positions over the weekend. {image}
Another long...why did you guys go long
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  • #1,182,723
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:10pm Sep 4, 2020 6:10pm
Quoting PatienceFx
{quote} Using daily or H4 charts we balance everything
I read it. I see what you mean. Will be keeping a look on it.
  • #1,182,724
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:14pm Sep 4, 2020 6:14pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} Anyone else holding over weekend
I sold .. wanted to get quick scalp, got back after market close. tp and sl didn't hit .... so i guess now im in swing trade ?
  • #1,182,725
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:27pm Sep 4, 2020 6:27pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} Another long...why did you guys go long
Based on price action analysis plus my limited understanding (of Gann's systems) to predict the potential near future direction.

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  • #1,182,726
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:36pm Sep 4, 2020 6:36pm
Quoting GannTrdr
{quote} I am holding positions over the weekend. {image}
i really do not understand why people hide/blur out the lots traded amount, especially in the trade explorers.

in my opinion, that is one of the most interesting parts of a trade, not just the fact that you are long or short.

some traders blur out their lots and then i watch them carefully and i learn that they are trading twenty cents per pip.

i just dont get it, i do not understand what there is to hide.

  • #1,182,727
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:44pm Sep 4, 2020 6:44pm
Quoting Lamira
{quote} I sold .. wanted to get quick scalp, got back after market close. tp and sl didn't hit .... so i guess now im in swing trade ?
Opps. Maybe it works in your favor.
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  • #1,182,728
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:45pm Sep 4, 2020 6:45pm
Quoting tradecode
{quote} i really do not understand why people hide/blur out the lots traded amount, especially in the trade explorers. in my opinion, that is one of the most interesting parts of a trade, not just the fact that you are long or short. some traders blur out their lots and then i watch them carefully and i learn that they are trading twenty cents per pip. i just dont get it, i do not understand what there is to hide.
My focus is on using price action and "Gann" to determine the direction, and price action to manually enter and exit. Remaining information is a distraction based on what i am using / trying out. Lot size traded as well as stop loss is part of money / risk management - which is critical to successful trading but currently not my focus.
  • #1,182,729
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:46pm Sep 4, 2020 6:46pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} Another long...why did you guys go long
I went long because I saw bullish strength on the 4HR and the Daily. Hopefully, it wasn't a bad decision.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #1,182,730
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:51pm Sep 4, 2020 6:51pm
Quoting tradecode
{quote} i really do not understand why people hide/blur out the lots traded amount, especially in the trade explorers. in my opinion, that is one of the most interesting parts of a trade, not just the fact that you are long or short. some traders blur out their lots and then i watch them carefully and i learn that they are trading twenty cents per pip. i just dont get it, i do not understand what there is to hide.
hahaha

To be frank with you, I used to blur mine out too, mostly because I didn't want people to see I was trading .02 lots. I figured people would have mocked me for doing that. I also didn't want people to see my order numbers. But I really shouldn't care. I usually do 0.1 lots now but I still do .02 from time to time.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #1,182,731
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:52pm Sep 4, 2020 6:52pm
Quoting tradecode
{quote} i really do not understand why people hide/blur out the lots traded amount, especially in the trade explorers. in my opinion, that is one of the most interesting parts of a trade, not just the fact that you are long or short. some traders blur out their lots and then i watch them carefully and i learn that they are trading twenty cents per pip. i just dont get it, i do not understand what there is to hide.
It's their preference...some people like to flaunt what they have and some don't. Some people think personal finances are personal.

What does it matter if they are trading 0.01 or 10 lots. Some people are more concerned with other people accounts than they are about other people's calls and winning trades. The size of the next persons account want help you grow your account.
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  • #1,182,732
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:54pm Sep 4, 2020 6:54pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} It's their preference...some people like to flaunt what they have and some don't. Some people think personal finances are personal. What does it matter if they are trading 0.01 or 10 lots. Some people are more concerned with other people accounts than they are about other people's calls and winning trades. The size of the next persons account want help you grow your account.
Good response!
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #1,182,733
  • Sep 4, 2020 6:56pm Sep 4, 2020 6:56pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} I went long because I saw bullish strength on the 4HR and the Daily. Hopefully, it wasn't a bad decision.
I don't see any reason for a major gap anyway unless some crazy news happens this weekend.

Only thought I would have on it for you all to consider is how that area of R held yesterday and today and I think market closed somewhere near that area today
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  • #1,182,734
  • Sep 4, 2020 7:00pm Sep 4, 2020 7:00pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} It's their preference...some people like to flaunt what they have and some don't. Some people think personal finances are personal. What does it matter if they are trading 0.01 or 10 lots. Some people are more concerned with other people accounts than they are about other people's calls and winning trades. The size of the next persons account want help you grow your account.
very nice answer, mistaouting.. i do recognize that personal finances are private, and i wont beat this horse into the ground, but obviously it would be interesting to know if a person making a trade is trading ten cents per pip or if they are trading fifty dollars per pip.

regarding that personal finances are private, posting a trade with the lots visible isnt quite the same as letting me see their bank statement..

if i post a trade here, i promise you that i will show my lots traded, but i do agree that not showing the trade ticket number is a good idea..

the trade ticket doesnt help me to analyze a trade, lol..

maybe one day i will start a thread that requires traders to show lots traded, but i dont know if i am allowed to make such a requirement on this forum.

thank you.
  • #1,182,735
  • Edited 7:26pm Sep 4, 2020 7:12pm | Edited 7:26pm
Quoting tradecode
{quote} very nice answer, mistaouting.. i do recognize that personal finances are private, and i wont beat this horse into the ground, but obviously it would be interesting to know if a person making a trade is trading ten cents per pip or if they are trading fifty dollars per pip. regarding that personal finances are private, posting a trade with the lots visible isnt quite the same as letting me see their bank statement.. if i post a trade here, i promise you that i will show my lots traded, but i do agree that not showing the trade ticket number...
Interesting is one thing and constructive is another. Looking at person order size WANT help you learn technical or fundamental analysis. Maybe risk management but then that's not the same for everyone.

Amd that's what you should ask opposed to order sizes, something like what's your RR not stop blurring out your order size.

Let's be honest people asking to see someone orders is because they are nosey or wanting to size up the other individual or a creep. What category do you fall in?

Reminds me of this movie when this guy would use fake atm receipts showing a balance of $1,000,000.99 to get girls...he would leave it laying around knowing the girl would look at it when he wasn't around.

Edit. I see people trading .01 lots and they talk like they are the greatest fx trader we'll because they trading small orders don't mean they are not... Maybe they already 5 lots in and want to add to the order with dragging there avg.... And sometimes I think it's just people talking trash and not who they say they are.... But unless they cause someone harm it's none of my business and I wouldn't care or judge for small orders. If I could I would use 0.01 orders but smallest I can do . 10 but it's times i wish I could go smaller to take on a larger risk....
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  • #1,182,736
  • Sep 4, 2020 7:26pm Sep 4, 2020 7:26pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} Interesting is one thing and constructive is another. Looking at person order size WANT help you learn technical or fundamental analysis. Maybe risk management but then that's not the same for everyone. Amd that's what you should ask opposed to order sizes, something like what's your RR not stop blurring out your order size. Let's be honest people asking to see someone orders is because they are nosey or wanting to size up the other individual or a creep. What category do you fall in? Reminds me of this movie when this guy would use fake...
again, i really dont want to debate this all day, but when someone is throwing pennies around it is not nearly as interesting as when someone is betting $100/pip or $1k/pip or $10k/pip.

it is my best guess that most people that blur out their lots are tossing around pennies.

again, i am considering starting a thread where it is required that lot sizes not be blurred out and that you have a live trade explorer with trade lots visible.

thank you for engaging me.

lets you and me just agree to disagree and have a nice weekend.

thank you for a pleasant conversation.

  • #1,182,737
  • Sep 4, 2020 7:34pm Sep 4, 2020 7:34pm
Quoting tradecode
{quote} again, i really dont want to debate this all day, but when someone is throwing pennies around it is not nearly as interesting as when someone is betting $100/pip or $1k/pip or $10k/pip. it is my best guess that most people that blur out their lots are tossing around pennies. again, i am considering starting a thread where it is required that lot sizes not be blured out and that you have a live trade explorer with trade lots visible. thank you for engaging me. lets you and me just agree to disagree and have a nice weekend. thank you for a...
Yeah start that thread... Call it "real traders of ff" can't wait to see yours... I wonder if anyone would use paper trading accounts.

You want to watch something interesting watch vh1 or something I hear they have good drama reality tv shows....

Who cares if they pennines.... Did they make a good call

Obviously that's what's its about to you "most people that blur out their lots are tossing around pennies". Obviously that's what your concerned about

Edit. I get it done guys talk bigger than their account a lot of egos and Wanabe pros here... But real people can see them. But no one should bad about their account or feel forced to share because it's new people to trading part time traders and so on who are humble and here to learn and I am one... Just can't trade. 01 lots but would it I could
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  • #1,182,738
  • Sep 4, 2020 7:38pm Sep 4, 2020 7:38pm
Quoting mistaouting
I wonder if anyone would use paper trading accounts.
if they have a current trade explorer with trade lots visible, it is tagged as either live or demo.

i am off to get rest now, i was awake all last night nursing my trades.

good night and good weekend.
  • #1,182,739
  • Sep 4, 2020 7:50pm Sep 4, 2020 7:50pm
Well I haven't been tracking FF much this week and just happened to see this regarding blurring trade size. My philosophy, which only matters to me, is that trade size is irrelevant, I actually wish the apps would allow you to track trades based on pip movement rather than money like they used to a few years ago. If I am consistent earning 150 pips every single week, pip value is whatever I want to apply for earning a specific amount for the week. It does not matter if my size is $60/pip or $1/pip, it is about how I manage my trades and how much screen time I want. My focus is on pip consistency not pip value. In addition, people start following you expecting signal calls, and they do not learn how to read price action. Everybody is different, there is no wrong way. Blur if it you want or let it show. The size of someones pip value means absolutely nothing to me, and the argument seems worthy of diminutive remarks on ones intellectual capacity. With all that said, you know what they say, opinions are like as*holes, everybody has one. Happy Friday everyone, hope you all have a relaxing weekend.
"What the wise do in the beginning, fools do in the end."-Warren Buffet
  • #1,182,740
  • Sep 4, 2020 7:53pm Sep 4, 2020 7:53pm
Quoting mistaouting
{quote} Yeah start that thread... Call it "real traders of ff" can't wait to see yours... I wonder if anyone would use paper trading accounts. You want to watch something interesting watch vh1 or something I hear they have good drama reality tv shows.... Who cares if they pennines.... Did they make a good call Obviously that's what's its about to you "most people that blur out their lots are tossing around pennies". Obviously that's what your concerned about Edit. I get it done guys talk bigger than their account a lot of egos and Wanabe pros here......
"......Did they make a good call......"

Exactly... I am focused on - Did i get the direction of the trade right? Are my filters working? If something works today, it may not work tomorrow. How do i adapt my system (If that is even possible)?
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