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  • #681
  • May 26, 2019 4:02am May 26, 2019 4:02am
Quoting GearZero
I'm About 2 weeks since understanding this idea and made some experiments. And yeah, i've found other good features as improvement for this methode. THE SAME RULES AS DREAMLINER'S and some Features i adopt from this thread followers This is the latest trend from EUR/USD H4 Timeframe. I havent given this feature a name but for now i call it "The Take-off Moment" {image} In That Trend i used 0.1 lot Without SL or close all when candle close above MA Got the profits about $400 Feel free to discuss Cheers
Hi GearZero,

Thanks for your posts. Very interested to see how you progress as I've just started trading this strategy as well. Currently in the process of writing a trading view script for this HFT method. Do you have Trading View?
  • #682
  • May 27, 2019 12:13am May 27, 2019 12:13am
Hi

A new trend EUR/USD H4 has begun. Let's get to it with Take-off Moment (TOM)
I enter with 0.1 lot with no SL or Close when the candle close below MA.
Thanks to Dreamliner and the Thread Followers for the idea

Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: TOM 24 Mei 19.png Size: 28 KB


Happy Trading
Feel Free to Discuss

Cheers
  • #683
  • May 27, 2019 12:18am May 27, 2019 12:18am
Quoting flybyfrank
{quote} Hi GearZero, Thanks for your posts. Very interested to see how you progress as I've just started trading this strategy as well. Currently in the process of writing a trading view script for this HFT method. Do you have Trading View?
Hi Frank.

Sorry, i dont have trading view.
I usually do technical analysis on Spotware CTrader then use MT4 for the execution.

I would share the whole rules again and some updates here
i hope people can develop this idea more
And some EA if possible

Feel free to Discuss
Cheers
  • #684
  • May 27, 2019 10:17am May 27, 2019 10:17am
Gear zero please tell us more, it ia intresting

Best regards
  • #685
  • May 28, 2019 12:28am May 28, 2019 12:28am
Dreamliner’s High Flying Trading Sub-Methode
Take-off Moment (TOM)

Rules we cannot break
Keep losses small, let profits run--and multiply them!

To do technical analysis for TOM, i recommend you to download Spotware CTrader
I did my test on EUR/USD H4. (feel free to do the test on another pair)

Rules for TOM

1. 34 SMA applied to [34 SMA applied to close] (CTrader platform)
2. Entry buy when candle close above MA, Entry sell when candle close below MA
3. Entry Add-on at every opposite candle or at opposite candle above the main position (Optional)
4. No StopLoss (Exit when candle close below MA)
5. Take Profit at 50 pips from the open entry candle (Optional. Different every pair)
6. Close All Position at TP including all Add-ons


This is the latest entry on EUR/USD H4

Blue arrows (main position)
Yellow arrows (add ons)
Blue Rectangle (50 pips from entry candle)

Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: TOM 28 Mei 19.png Size: 27 KB


Feel Free to Discuss
Cheers
  • #686
  • May 28, 2019 12:41am May 28, 2019 12:41am
Woul it be possible to do this on lower timeframes ? How to survive sideways markets or range bounds that moves between support and resistance ?

Thank You.

Best regards
  • #687
  • May 28, 2019 1:54am May 28, 2019 1:54am
Quoting jgadefelth
Woul it be possible to do this on lower timeframes ? How to survive sideways markets or range bounds that moves between support and resistance ? Thank You. Best regards
It is okay to do this on lower timeframe but the rules number 5, take profit is not 50 pips. try doing some research about average trend movement on that Timeframe before the candle cross the MA.

The way we survive sideways market is still like Dreamliner said. "Accept small losses"

This is the latest sideways market on EUR/USD H4 worth 285 pips losses
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: TOM 30 Apr 19.png Size: 35 KB


And this is a Good Trend after the sideways worth 425 pips Profit
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: TOM 24 Mei 19.png Size: 32 KB



As we can see, one good trend can eliminate a long sideways market

Feel Free to Discuss
Cheers
  • #688
  • May 30, 2019 3:38pm May 30, 2019 3:38pm
in post 54 the risk is only 12 pips explaining the chart in post 53 how is this possible on a 4h chart i dont get it and also if the addons start moving against one surely one must lose more ?


Best regards
  • #689
  • Jun 1, 2019 1:18am Jun 1, 2019 1:18am
Quoting jgadefelth
in post 54 the risk is only 12 pips explaining the chart in post 53 how is this possible on a 4h chart i dont get it and also if the addons start moving against one surely one must lose more ? Best regards
It IS possible. Look, the idea is not the 12 pips risk. Dreamliner said he put his stoploss at the last swing which is in that trend was 12 pips away. And he also said one of the two things we should be cautious is when “The distance between the entry point and the previous swing low is very large." For example when a last swing of a trend has over 100 pips away.
So, when you find a trend with a swing of 25 pips what would you do?

On post 58. Abokwaik said that for re-entries

Note about re-entries :
· They should never be at a price better than our last entry.
· Example : If we are in an up-trend, our next buy should never be at a price lower that our last re-entry.

I have tried this with TOM on a backtest, and it reduced the loss in sideways markets like 10%. But it also reduced profit on good trends like almost 80%.
So, my personal choice is I enter add ons at every opposite candles and accept all the losses.

For now, the best way i know to reduce the losses is from post 685.

Rules #1 : What is the best MA applied to - 34 SMA applied to close
Rules #5 : Set the target pips on average trend volumes (can be just 30 pips or more than 100 pips, different every pair)
  • #690
  • Jun 1, 2019 1:51am Jun 1, 2019 1:51am
Quoting GearZero
{quote} It IS possible. Look, the idea is not the 12 pips risk. Dreamliner said he put his stoploss at the last swing which is in that trend was 12 pips away. And he also said one of the two things we should be cautious is when “The distance between the entry point and the previous swing low is very large." For example when a last swing of a trend has over 100 pips away. So, when you find a trend with a swing of 25 pips what would you do? On post 58. Abokwaik said that for re-entries Note about re-entries : · They should never be at a price better...
Hi GearZero,
Can I ask : Did you try live this strategy? How did it go if you did? Thank you.
  • #691
  • Jun 1, 2019 2:24am Jun 1, 2019 2:24am
Quoting GearZero
{quote} It IS possible. Look, the idea is not the 12 pips risk. Dreamliner said he put his stoploss at the last swing which is in that trend was 12 pips away. And he also said one of the two things we should be cautious is when “The distance between the entry point and the previous swing low is very large." For example when a last swing of a trend has over 100 pips away. So, when you find a trend with a swing of 25 pips what would you do? On post 58. Abokwaik said that for re-entries Note about re-entries : · They should never be at a price better...

Yes thank you. I was meaning is the total possible loss for that trade 12 pips, with other words the initial risk and stop from first trade ? In you strategy you have more risk and better chance for profit ? Would an entry on every candle regardless if it is in direction of trend or not be aless profitable ideear ? Instead of emas woult it be more profitable to use marketstructure for trend higher highs ans soon ? How small trends can you use this on 1minute chart and 30 pips ?

Best regards
  • #692
  • Jun 1, 2019 5:31am Jun 1, 2019 5:31am
Quoting GearZero
Dreamliner’s High Flying Trading Sub-Methode Take-off Moment (TOM) Rules we cannot break Keep losses small, let profits run--and multiply them! To do technical analysis for TOM, i recommend you to download Spotware CTrader I did my test on EUR/USD H4. (feel free to do the test on another pair) Rules for TOM 1. 34 SMA applied to [34 SMA applied to close] (CTrader platform) 2. Entry buy when candle close above MA, Entry sell when candle close below MA 3. Entry Add-on at every opposite candle or at opposite candle above the main position (Optional)...
As far as I can see, your MA is a Triangular MA (34) which is available with ctrader. You can do the same with MT4 if you set the attached tma to 67.

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File Type: mq4 TriangularMA.mq4   3 KB | 634 downloads
  • #693
  • Jun 3, 2019 2:18am Jun 3, 2019 2:18am
Quoting Go5
{quote} As far as I can see, your MA is a Triangular MA (34) which is available with ctrader. You can do the same with MT4 if you set the attached tma to 67. {file}
Thanks for the attachment. I'll try that soon.
And check if there any updates for the rules.

Hi, Giedrius
Yes, i've tried this strategy from April 2019 with real account.
and anything before them is just a backtest.

Hi, jgadefelth
I think if you go with M1 chart and 30 pips TP thats too much, but still depend on your trading pairs
and Yes, i've tried that market structures higher high and lower low, it works. But the problem was When to exit? and when the price comes back to the MA? because some add ons would be losses when the price comes back to the MA.
I would like to ask you to do some backtesting for that, and find the average trend volumes on M1 chart.

I've tried some alternatives rules on EUR/USD backtesting. let's see if someone discover something new.

Feel Free to Discuss
Cheers
  • #694
  • Jun 3, 2019 3:42am Jun 3, 2019 3:42am
Quoting GearZero
{quote} Thanks for the attachment. I'll try that soon. And check if there any updates for the rules. Hi, Giedrius Yes, i've tried this strategy from April 2019 with real account. and anything before them is just a backtest. Hi, jgadefelth I think if you go with M1 chart and 30 pips TP thats too much, but still depend on your trading pairs and Yes, i've tried that market structures higher high and lower low, it works. But the problem was When to exit? and when the price comes back to the MA? because some add ons would be losses when the price comes...

If you go for market structure higher highs and so on you dont need ema. You can find something else as an entry trigger. Why is 30 pips to mutch for the 1 minute ? Why EU it is a hard pair to trade not so mith smooth trends as one would wish, maybe a g psir like gu or gj is better ? Also one must calculate the addons so the MMis good better then 1:1 is to prefer for the latest addons. I like this way of thinking to elaborate on. Thank You.

Best regards
  • #695
  • Jun 4, 2019 8:01am Jun 4, 2019 8:01am
And also this thread have some idéers how the trades can be managed.

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=551541
  • #696
  • Jun 5, 2019 5:04am Jun 5, 2019 5:04am
Quoting Dreamliner
We know that one good trend can hugely affect our trading business’ bottom line. Here are the numbers from the above trend: Total trend move: 570 pips Total pips gained: 5379 Total risk: 12 pips (previous swing high) Risk/Reward ratio= 1/448 26 winners 6 losers On a standard account: $53,790.00 (minus spreads) .

where's the risk about 12 pips? The strategy tells about no stoploss.. if the trend change your risk reward will be not 1/448.
  • #697
  • Edited 6:28am Jun 5, 2019 6:04am | Edited 6:28am
Quoting lukeit
{quote} where's the risk about 12 pips? The strategy tells about no stoploss.. if the trend change your risk reward will be not 1/448.
Yes, finally someone got it. Dreamliner did not say about 12 pips risk. He was telling about that trend he explained. Which means IT IS NOT A RULE of HFT.

Hi jgadefelth.
Why EU? I said it is a personal choice. You want to take GU, its okay.
You use market structures with no MA, and using entry trigger based on supports resistances. Thats the basic idea of trading. I got it. I trade no indicator too.
But...
If you omitting the MA, is it still considered as HFT system? As we know, the system is using MA and other followers add some features to it.
  • #698
  • Jun 6, 2019 3:13am Jun 6, 2019 3:13am
Quoting GearZero
{quote} Yes, finally someone got it. Dreamliner did not say about 12 pips risk. He was telling about that trend he explained. Which means IT IS NOT A RULE of HFT. Hi jgadefelth. Why EU? I said it is a personal choice. You want to take GU, its okay. You use market structures with no MA, and using entry trigger based on supports resistances. Thats the basic idea of trading. I got it. I trade no indicator too. But... If you omitting the MA, is it still considered as HFT system? As we know, the system is using MA and other followers add some features...

the strategy in theory should not be bad. the problem is the long horizontal trends that have been occurring for some years now. have you tried for a period of time?
  • #699
  • Jun 9, 2019 2:09am Jun 9, 2019 2:09am
Quoting lukeit
{quote} the strategy in theory should not be bad. the problem is the long horizontal trends that have been occurring for some years now. have you tried for a period of time?
Long horizontal trends? There was many good trends
I've done backtest with HFT and its new features from 2017 and have tried on real account from april 2019. This is the best and easiest strategy i know so far. The result is a good average 200 pips per month with 30 pips TP for me.

Feel free to discuss
Cheers
  • #700
  • Jun 13, 2019 1:49pm Jun 13, 2019 1:49pm
Quoting GearZero
{quote} Long horizontal trends? There was many good trends I've done backtest with HFT and its new features from 2017 and have tried on real account from april 2019. This is the best and easiest strategy i know so far. The result is a good average 200 pips per month with 30 pips TP for me. Feel free to discuss Cheers
Thanks for your strategy, I believe it your TP method will make it easier to trade choppy markets. May I ask what is the method to find your average trend volume?
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