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  • #21
  • Feb 10, 2019 9:17am Feb 10, 2019 9:17am
Quoting mrafzal
Picture on left shows historical data Picture on right shows strategy tester Both with the indicator attached with the same default settings Currency GBPJPY Timeframe H1 {image}

The blue horizontal line has the same time/date on both charts.
Look at the Cross on the left chart with the historical data.
Where is the cross on the right chart with the strategy tester?
Clearly Repaints.
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  • #22
  • Edited 9:33am Feb 10, 2019 9:22am | Edited 9:33am
Quoting mrafzal
Both with the indicator attached with the same default settings
You are comparing apples to oranges. That is not repainting. The algorithm requires previous bars to perform its calculations. One chart may have 10000 bars of historical data to work with, and the other (e.g. Strategy Tester) may have only 40 bars. So, the calculation is different.

It is good you are using MT4 Strategy Tester. Now -- let it run in slow motion to see if it goes back in time to change the lines. If you are not sure what repainting really is, then run the ZigZag indicator in MT4 Strategy Tester. The ZigZag indicator is a known repainter -- and that's okay. It was intended to repaint and not be used for Entry and Exit signals. When you see how the ZigZag indicator goes back in time to change its line, then you will understand what repainting is.

I'm done -- I'll now turn this over to you guys to figure out.
  • #23
  • Feb 11, 2019 3:26am Feb 11, 2019 3:26am
Anyone else having the problem that the indicator is extremely slowing down MT4?
  • #24
  • Edited 3:55am Feb 11, 2019 3:44am | Edited 3:55am
Quoting PayTheBid
{quote} @hibra68 @mario777 Sorry but are you guys noobs.... the reason I placed the second pic is so you can see why the yellow line in the first pic did go up before the price did ....lol Because it repaints..... Try it live and stop dreaming....I wish it did not repaint.... I expected it from the other guys but from "il be back" I did not......any professional can tell with one look
PayTheBid, repainting means that an indicator (in this case the yellow line), when viewed live, is positioned at point(A) at time (B).

Then at time (c)- (a later time), the indicator, when viewed historically at time (B), is no longer at position (A). IE, when viewed historically, the indicator has repainted to a new position.

Your second pic shows no such thing.

All your second pic shows (or suggests), is that the indicator is a predictive indicator, and that on this occasion, it predicted correctly that price would go up.

Nothing more....

I don't use indicators myself except fibs and TL's of more than 1 type, so no dreaming here of a holy grail

But I do wander the rooms of FF when a little bored and looking for something to say, no matter how pointless at times
Come with me if you want to live....
  • #25
  • Feb 11, 2019 6:38am Feb 11, 2019 6:38am
Quoting PayTheBid
{quote} @hibra68 @mario777 Sorry but are you guys noobs.... the reason I placed the second pic is so you can see why the yellow line in the first pic did go up before the price did ....lol Because it repaints..... Try it live and stop dreaming....I wish it did not repaint.... I expected it from the other guys but from "il be back" I did not......any professional can tell with one look
PaytheBid, LOL again! You did not read my post very well before replying . I did not say the indi dont repaint. The reason I laugh at your chart because there is no difference between them. See the red arrows? See the candles where the MA crosses. Are there any difference?
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  • #26
  • Feb 11, 2019 7:56am Feb 11, 2019 7:56am
Quoting Ill-b-back
{quote} PayTheBid, repainting means that an indicator (in this case the yellow line), when viewed live, is positioned at point(A) at time (B). Then at time (c)- (a later time), the indicator, when viewed historically at time (B), is no longer at position (A). IE, when viewed historically, the indicator has repainted to a new position. Your second pic shows no such thing. All your second pic shows (or suggests), is that the indicator is a predictive indicator, and that on this occasion, it predicted correctly that price would go up. Nothing more.......

The yellow line was pulled up after hand when the move was done.....check it live
No problem my friend! I understand you

PTB
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  • #27
  • Feb 11, 2019 7:59am Feb 11, 2019 7:59am
Quoting mario777
{quote} PaytheBid, LOL again! You did not read my post very well before replying . I did not say the indi dont repaint. The reason I laugh at your chart because there is no difference between them. See the red arrows? See the candles where the MA crosses. Are there any difference? {image}
Mario sorry but if you cannot see it with one look I cannot help you, it takes years to be able to see some things
I usually do not answer these kind of things from noobies and I wont continue this cause I have no time
My mistake for trying to help....
Have fun!
''Eighter you say you can or you cant you are right!"

PTB
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  • #28
  • Feb 11, 2019 8:24am Feb 11, 2019 8:24am
Quoting johnsun888
Smoothed_Bands is a no repainting indicator. {image} {file}
It does not repaint in real-time, BUT run it for a while, reinitialize it and... totally new values...

If it looks to good to be true, it normally is.
  • #29
  • Feb 11, 2019 8:41am Feb 11, 2019 8:41am
OK.....my friends!!!

I will do this but please do the same.... I will place it on a 1 min EURUSD chart and babysit it.... (YES TRADING IS A LONELY PROFESSION...LOL)

And in will be back....WITH THE REPAINTING ISSUE....

PTB
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  • #30
  • Feb 11, 2019 8:59am Feb 11, 2019 8:59am
Ok boys and girls..... AND ROCKET SCIENTISTS!!!

Here are 2 pics.....it did not take long, simple..... if a bar has closed and after that the indicator changes position it repaints.....

Look at the circled bar (that has closed) and where the yellow line is(I placed a red horizontal line so we all can see....
and look at it after a couple of bars it is not touching it anymore.....so that means that the price pulled that yellow line in its direction

Case closed.....that for me is repainting

1000000 hours of screen time do not fool .... I thought maybe I went a little crazy lol

Have fun!
PTB
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  • #31
  • Feb 11, 2019 11:59pm Feb 11, 2019 11:59pm
Quoting mario777
{quote} PaytheBid, LOL again! You did not read my post very well before replying . I did not say the indi dont repaint. The reason I laugh at your chart because there is no difference between them. See the red arrows? See the candles where the MA crosses. Are there any difference? {image}
Exactly, this is the point I was making.
In the example given, no repainting occurs.
This does not mean the indi does not repaint, only that the example given did not show the repainting issue.
The fact that it continued to rise as price increased is not relevant to the issue of repainting.
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  • #32
  • Last Post: Feb 13, 2019 8:36am Feb 13, 2019 8:36am
Ok guys....it is my mistake for thinking that you where advanced enough to see what I was showing.... it is ok....

Just for fun....the cherry on the cake...lol

But guys when you are wrong admit it, do not make a fool of yourself...the question was does this repaint?

Marios I am not even going to comment.....

but Il be back..this is your statement on post 24.....

" repainting means that an indicator (in this case the yellow line), when viewed live, is positioned at point(A) at time (B).

Then at time (c)- (a later time), the indicator, when viewed historically at time (B), is no longer at position (A)."


For your eyes only.....

Last post here, spent too much time on Mickey Mouse stuff

PTB
Jack
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