EUR/TRY and USD/TRY: Positive swap pairs

Hi,

well, i am starting here a new thread about trading the positive swap pairs only on thier positve direction only.

the pairs are EUR/TRY & USD/TRY : POSITIVE SWAP PAIRS


All are welcomed to join


the idea is simple


this strategy for the people who do not like to analysis the markets and they make many wrong trading deals....

rules of the strategy

for best results:

1. if the sell swap is positive , we always make sell trades for the pair
2. if the buy swap is positive , we we always make buy trades for the pair
3. use the PSAR to be your signal generator
4. time frame is H4, if you have more money use H1, if you have more and more money in your account use M30.

note myself, i do not use the last two rules, but you can use them to begin with.

the main rule here is that when your trade is wrong, your swap will begin generating money daily each 24 hours and once the floating losses for your trades are less than your swap, then your can close these trades even with profits.

i will post some of my expert advisors for free, but you will use them on your own risk and resposibilty

i will post some charts too

if you are trading these two pairs, join me here..

EUR/TRY AND USD/TRY are both highly +ve correlated ( they move most of the time in the same direction )

also they both have positive selling swap

so if you keep selling then you will keep getting some money at night

my broker is sending EACH NIGHT FOR any opened trades :

1. USD0.23 for each 0.01 lot USD/TRY
2. USD0.28 for each 0.01 lot EUR/TRY

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME TRADES WITH THE SWAP

USD/TRY




EUR/TRY

I measure my floating loss to my swap by %

for example

i have a EUR/TRY trade of value 0.01 opened for the last 5 days

SO 5 DAYS X 0.23*0.01/0.01 = 1.15

AND LET'S ASSUME THAT THE FLOATING LOSS IS ABOUT 34.7 USD

SO MY SUCCESS PERCENTAGE FOR THIS TRADE IS 1.15/34.7 X 100% = 3.34%

Brother Samer, Assalam u alaikum!

what kind of pairs are these?? but you are losing money??
can you explain plz. thanks.

even if the trade has a floating loss, the swap will be accumulated day after day

it is better than trading the negative swap and you are getting more losses

the swap can be checked in mt4 by using the left panel of the prices - under specification button - for fast and manual testing

as you can see that the swap is having a good value for these two pairs

hi

there is difference between losing and floating loss

losing means you have closed the wrong trade with a loss

but floating loss is a trade you made wrongly and it is losing but you did not close it and you do not want to close ti to stop and prevent any loss as described above, so you keep it days and nights till the market is going again back into your favor , so in these days, you will get at night a swap value

this is a strategy to trade the positive swap only

but your Equity is decreasing, could you plz explain more your method.
when to buy/sell?? any particular session/time frame??

hi

you must first check the swap

you do not make buy and sell for the same pair, it is either to buy or to sell only for the same pair


rules of the strategy

for best results:

 

1. if the sell swap is positive , we always make sell trades for the pair
2. if the buy swap is positive , we we always make buy trades for the pair
3. use the PSAR to be your signal generator
4. time frame is H4, if you have more money use H1, if you have more and more money in your account use M30.

and you should be aware that this is not a trading strategy for any pair

it is only for positive swap pairs

for the equity
this strategy will be slow like a turtle for these two pairs and it will need some discipline form the trader end to gain some good income
the size of the trades will begin by 0.01 lot and do not be greedy
the equity will decrease by time, yes true, but the swap will return part of the money daily

consider it like any other method of trading

you will invest some money with protection and on daily basis you will get some returns.

it is like the HYIP process , but instead of investing your money with a scam hyip admin, you invest your money with your own account and it will act as a personal hyip to generate you money

this is same as the carry over trading strategy, but as most of the pairs now are having negative swap, this trading strategy is going to be dead , but for these two pairs , it will live for some time.

the HYIP idea is to spend some money in an investment and on daily basis you will get profit, then it will be like an ROI.

however, most of the hyip admins are thieves , they will steal your money and run away, but in your account , you will be safe as this is a daily income, and if you have the power to stand the market for longer time, then you will get more money


assume you make this carry over trade for EUR/TRY of value 1 lot

then on daily basis regardless the floating loss you have, you will get 0.28x1lot/0.01 = USD28 free in your account.

on one condition that you can afford to stay in the market , that is being said, you have good balance in your account.

For my curiosity, how much balance is good in the account.
if so many people are doing this, do not you think brokers will notice.
how long you are doing this swap strategy profit? can I have statement
if possible(or ignore this question).

here are my real trades with positive swap



it is clear that the percentage is in the range of 7% to 15% and it will increase day after day till the floating loss is breakeven wwith the positive swap profits then the total profit will be add up to my trades profits

to begin with answering your question, i do not have any objection to reply:

USD1500 TO BEGIN WITH
YES ALL BROKERS KNOW THIS STRATEGY WELL AND THEY WILL MENTION IN THEIR WEBSITE THAT THEY ALLOW CARRY OVER TRADES AND THEY WILL SHOW THE SWAP VALUE IN THE MT4, UNLESS IT IS ISLAMIC ACCOUNT, IT IS NOT AVAILABLE

FOR STATEMENT, I WILL PUBLISH HERE A COPY OF MY REAL ACCOUNT MT4 TRADES FOR THIS STRATEGY

I AM USING THIS STRATEGY SINCE 2011 AND I USE IT WHEN I DO NOT HAVE ANY EXTRA TIME AND BUT I HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY AND I CAN WAIT.

WHENEVER I CAN CLOSE MY TRADES WITH PROFIT FORM THE SWAP AND FROM THE TAKE PROFIT, I CLOSE THEM.




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the price movement of the EU is slow since few days back to the north, and, YES, it was and still slow , the movement of the EU is still slow, but hey... look there to the E/T and U/T , the movements of the prices to north for both pairs were strong and still strong, that is confirming the idea and the theory that, the big players do not want the EU to move , it would be a Tie for this pair between E and U currencies, so they put force to move other pairs contains either E or U.

yesterday, the EU should move to north as the USD was at night weak, but instead, the ET moved to the north and ST also moved to the north in the same ratio.

the E wants that the EUR to be weak to get more investments in their area, while the U wants the USD to stay weak compared to the Eur to get more investments in their area too, so it is a tie 1.03 to 1.09 is the range for this tie since few months.

so, the force to push the Eur pairs to above to the north is having approximately equivalent force nearly to the south... so it is tie

if you return to the bull and bears indicators in for the EUR pairs today , all of them are in tie except ET and UT.

i do not know, may be i am wrong, but this is what i can judge from the slow movement for these pairs and the fast managed movement of the other E pairs

Et and ST expectation for direction.
it might be correct and it might be wrong
but this is my setup and system
trade safely

Brother Samer! Sorry for the late reply because of the time difference.

I am in Toronto, Canada. Could you plz answer my following questions:-

 

1. First of all who is your broker in Live account??

1. Is SWAP, Halal(permissible) in Islamic point of view?? Plz do not say that I

Should consult with scholars, because they do not know what you know.

 

1. Is there any chance of losing money with this kind of strategy??

1. After entering the market, Buy/Sell, do I have to leave my computer open and check all the time

To see if Swap is in positive??

 

1. Why only these two pairs, EUR/TRY, USD/TRY??? Why not else??

1. If I enter today and get out the same day, there would be NO swap, do I have to stay over night
   

For this strategy???

No more questions, plz reply all, just for my curiosity to learn your strategy.

Take care.

Dear Sir,

good day

the reply to your questions is shown hereunder one by one, and please do not hesitate to ask for any further clarifications:

Brother Samer! Sorry for the late reply because of the time difference.

I am in Toronto, Canada. Could you plz answer my following questions:-

 

1. First of all who is your broker in Live account?? fxpro.uk and they are originally in cypruce , i have several accounts with them and they are honest.

 

1. Is SWAP, Halal(permissible) in Islamic point of view?? Plz do not say that I

Should consult with scholars, because they do not know what you know. it is halal and it is not halal at the same time , but all in all , no it is not halal, it is intrest rate - it is fae'da on your money daily occured at 0GMT, it is the same as keeping your money in the bank for some time and the bank will give you intrest rate for that period, but here you are the bank and the the broker is just an agent as you hold your money in your account

 

1. Is there any chance of losing money with this kind of strategy??

no if you follow the money mangment , you will not lose your account, but it is very slow, it is boring strategy, no real action but it will produce you money.

 

1. After entering the market, Buy/Sell, do I have to leave my computer open and check all the time

you can close your computer d you can go and sleep, it will work all its ownself, but you should open your pc to make some trades when the price is in your favor and ou need to close some trades if you are in profits

To see if Swap is in positive??

be aware that the brokers are only agents to the swap by the banks, so, yes you must always chck the swap if it is positive as it might change , and why is that happening, because the central banks are changing the intrestes rates

 

1. Why only these two pairs, EUR/TRY, USD/TRY??? Why not else?? bcz the eur intreste rate is greater than the turkish then the bank will pay you oevrnight a value for your open trade, and the same is said for the usd

 

1. If I enter today and get out the same day, there would be NO swap, do I have to stay over night

swap has no relation with the trade itself, the trade must saty till 0 GMt for example...ok ok ok let me do it in different way

assume that the broker will reset his daily logbook at 1 am after midnight, so the swap will be calculated only at this time like my broker, now if i open the trade at any time before this 1 am the i reach with open trade to the 1.:01 am, then yes i will get the swap (either +ve or -ve) for my trades, so, if you open your trade at 16 pm or at 22 pm or at 12:59 am it will still the same, at 1 am you will get the swap.
but be aware of expanssion of the spread, when ever the time is near to 1 am the spread willbe 10 times bcz the broker will try to stop hunters from making such fast deals to stop them from getting the swap profits

For this strategy???

No more questions, plz reply all, just for my curiosity to learn your strategy.

Take care.