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  • #18,261
  • Mar 20, 2017 6:37am Mar 20, 2017 6:37am
Quoting Evaluator
{quote} bmcgowra, Yes, you will have to play with the settings for each element in the Symphonie matrix. It appears the one on the left is entering too early and will give you the pain of the whipsaws. Best of Luck. Evaluator.

Is there any way to identify the right settings.

I go with the default settings.

Anything wrong in this setting. Could you please confirm once.

This is 5 min chart.
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  • #18,262
  • Mar 20, 2017 11:32pm Mar 20, 2017 11:32pm
If you don't like the 1Hr/15min trade technique then; here is one that is all in the same timeframe. (15 min charts) Rules are simple entry is Symphonie signal and exit is change in Sentiment or Extreme change (only) after entry. I used a 10 pip stoploss after trade goes +10 pips. (P.S. Trade one position at a time only to lower losses.)

Made me 50 pips in 3 days. In your demo trading test it out and see how well you preform.

Evaluator
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  • #18,263
  • Mar 21, 2017 12:01am Mar 21, 2017 12:01am
Quoting Evaluator
If you don't like the 1Hr/15min trade technique then; here is one that is all in the same timeframe. (15 min charts) Rules are simple entry is Symphonie signal and exit is change in Sentiment or Extreme change (only) after entry. I used a 10 pip stoploss after trade goes +10 pips. (P.S. Trade one position at a time only to lower losses.) Made me 50 pips in 3 days. In your demo trading test it out and see how well you preform. Evaluator {image}
what is the recent indicator setting?
  • #18,264
  • Mar 21, 2017 12:28am Mar 21, 2017 12:28am
Quoting kaizkung
{quote} what is the recent indicator setting?
Per your request.

Evaluator
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  • #18,265
  • Mar 21, 2017 12:44am Mar 21, 2017 12:44am
Quoting Evaluator
{quote} Per your request. Evaluator {image}
Evaluator,

What is the initial S/L?

Thanks
  • #18,266
  • Mar 21, 2017 2:45am Mar 21, 2017 2:45am
Evaluator. Do you haven an EA to test Symphonie?
  • #18,267
  • Edited 5:19am Mar 21, 2017 2:59am | Edited 5:19am
Thanks for Sharing
  • #18,268
  • Mar 21, 2017 4:07am Mar 21, 2017 4:07am
Quoting bmcgowra
Evaluator. Do you haven an EA to test Symphonie?
Bmcgowra,

Here is the response from Evaluator from an old post:

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...64#post6807064

From what I remember, no one was successful in creating an EA because not withstanding the rules Trading Symphonie is still an art. At the heart of it Symphonie combines principles of market structure, volume, price action etc....

Thanks
  • #18,269
  • Mar 21, 2017 6:34am Mar 21, 2017 6:34am
Quoting Evaluator
Symphonie Matrix Version 3.0 After extensive testing by RealJumper, ohammond, and myself; I am pleased to be releasing the new Symphonie Matrix v3.0. There are a few major and minor upgrades and I post it now for all to keep current. However, the one major difference in this release from the previous versions is a great improvement of the Symphonie System. In this version you will find all new indikators with the v3.0 attached. That is because in the version 3.0 one will find that the Extreme Indikator values NO LONGER repaint!! Why? First, I want...
Hi there. I'm just looking to start demoing this system. Are these the only files I need to install, or do I need to install anything from previous versions?
  • #18,270
  • Edited 7:19am Mar 21, 2017 6:52am | Edited 7:19am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Bmcgowra, Here is the response from Evaluator from an old post: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...64#post6807064 From what I remember, no one was successful in creating an EA because not withstanding the rules Trading Symphonie is still an art. At the heart of it Symphonie combines principles of market structure, volume, price action etc.... Thanks
I know I read these posts.. Still, he might have an EA now? A kind of EA to test. I mean how would you Eval test the indicator if you cant run it through the tester? Like what are good settings etc..
  • #18,271
  • Mar 21, 2017 7:27am Mar 21, 2017 7:27am
Quoting bmcgowra
{quote} I know I read these posts.. Still, he might have an EA now? A kind of EA to test. I mean how would you Eval test the indicator if you cant run it through the tester? Like what are good settings etc..
bmcgowra,

In short.....no. I trade manually.

I will ask that if you are determined to setup an EA then please setup a new thread for its discussion. I do not want this thread to be about an EA. This thread is for Symphonie Trader System, not an EA.

Thanks,

Evaluator
  • #18,272
  • Mar 21, 2017 7:40am Mar 21, 2017 7:40am
So you dont have an ea. So how did you get the settings? The reason I ask how you got the the settings is because I have a different broker and need to adjust the settings accordingly. If you could tell me how you got the settings I could use that to adjust the settings for my broker. An EA could have helped to backtest. Thats why I was busy with an EA.
  • #18,273
  • Mar 21, 2017 8:16am Mar 21, 2017 8:16am
Quoting bmcgowra
{quote} I know I read these posts.. Still, he might have an EA now? A kind of EA to test. I mean how would you Eval test the indicator if you cant run it through the tester? Like what are good settings etc..
Bmcgowra,

Evaluator has given the optimized settings for the time frames. As for testing the indicator, You just have to look at this thread which is one of the longest surviving thread and read some of the posts by other users. Evaluator gave a comprehensive analysis of his system. In the end, the system is available for us to test it directly.

Evaluator is a heavy hitter and a veteran and dollar to donuts his trading capital would be at-least 7-8 digits.

He also made it clear he is protective of the intellectual property. So let's not take his generosity for granted and be grateful that he is still here to support us with his guidance...

Just My 2 cents...

Thanks
  • #18,274
  • Mar 21, 2017 8:44am Mar 21, 2017 8:44am
Dear Evaluator and others,

I am not trying to personally attack or question the strategy. I hope you all didnt get me wrong. Regarding the intellectual property I am greatful for Evaluator to share it with us.

I am just a little frustrated as I am trying to get the correct settings for dukascopy (my broker) which seem to be different to other brokers because of the point difference.

This is why I created the EA to be able to backtest. But it doesnt seem to work out. Therefore my question how Evaluator gets the settings. It was not meant in a bad way at all. If I would know how I could apply this for the settings of my broker. Thats all.

So please everyone. I hope you didnt get me wrong..

Brendan
  • #18,275
  • Mar 21, 2017 2:16pm Mar 21, 2017 2:16pm
Quoting bmcgowra
So you dont have an ea. So how did you get the settings? The reason I ask how you got the the settings is because I have a different broker and need to adjust the settings accordingly. If you could tell me how you got the settings I could use that to adjust the settings for my broker. An EA could have helped to backtest. Thats why I was busy with an EA.
bmcgowra,

With A LOT of pain staking trial and error. You have the ability to test different setting just as I do. All you have to do is open the indicator setting and MT4 and adjust them. I encourage you to try it for yourself.

Evaluator
  • #18,276
  • Mar 22, 2017 7:20am Mar 22, 2017 7:20am
Quoting Evaluator
{quote} bmcgowra, With A LOT of pain staking trial and error. You have the ability to test different setting just as I do. All you have to do is open the indicator setting and MT4 and adjust them. I encourage you to try it for yourself. Evaluator
Dear Evaluator,

Thanks! I tried to look back and see that the 1 hour candle shows upto 6 months into the past. Do you or anyone know how to make it show a full year?

Cheers,
Brendan
  • #18,277
  • Mar 22, 2017 8:23am Mar 22, 2017 8:23am
Quoting bmcgowra
{quote} Dear Evaluator, Thanks! I tried to look back and see that the 1 hour candle shows upto 6 months into the past. Do you or anyone know how to make it show a full year? Cheers, Brendan

bmcgowra,

Increase the bar count in the settings.

Evaluator.
  • #18,278
  • Mar 22, 2017 9:13am Mar 22, 2017 9:13am
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So you don't have an ea.

I have made an ea from it, still, in alpha stages haven't even yet put on the demo.
the problem was that the symphony indicator had more than x amount of inputs and my coder couldn't do it for mt4 so i found a version that worked.
I've discovered something interesting about this, has a massive potential but will rip you apart when ranges or trend vanishes, in testing it changes 1k to 6k (600% )2016-2017 but that is with standard lot of 0.1 and not 1% risk. and we don't see 600% return if starting with 10k or anything, it makes 100% < return 2016-20117, my problem is that I use my own indicator alongside for confirmation, this indicator I discovered it repaints , it does not repaint live but where you start it would show different results, so my ability to do long term test is pretty limited.

when I see the gross profit I cry, on some of the worse versions gross profit can be (starting with 10k )greater than 1mill and a gross loss would be like 970k hahaha (tear )

I would happily share this with you guys since you have been so devoted to this, but so far this hasn't been the cheapest work to make and still got fair bit more to perfect, its not for sale , I want to give away to some but I don't want everyone to have full access to it .(freeloaders) i hope you can respect that.
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  • #18,279
  • Mar 22, 2017 9:21am Mar 22, 2017 9:21am
Quoting forexer801
{quote} I have made an ea from it, still, in alpha stages haven't even yet put on the demo. the problem was that the symphony indicator had more than x amount of inputs and my coder couldn't do it for mt4 so i found a version that worked. I've discovered something interesting about this, has a massive potential but will rip you apart when ranges or trend vanishes, in testing it changes 1k to 6k (600% )2016-2017 but that is with standard lot of 0.1 and not 1% risk. and we don't see 600% return if starting with 10k or anything, it makes 100% < return...
Quoting the words from Evaluator:

"
I will ask that if you are determined to setup an EA then please setup a new thread for its discussion. I do not want this thread to be about an EA. This thread is for Symphonie Trader System, not an EA.
"
  • #18,280
  • Mar 22, 2017 9:44am Mar 22, 2017 9:44am
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Quoting the words from Evaluator:

"
I will ask that if you are determined to setup an EA then please setup a new thread for its discussion. I do not want this thread to be about an EA. This thread is for Symphonie Trader System, not an EA.

I will respect that, I thought I just let you all know as people were asking I will slowly retreat into the cracks, if approached I will happily answer questions where ever they come from whatever they're about


OH also i put the wrong initial amount in they were the settings for 1k using 0.1 size
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