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  • #201
  • Edited 8:18am Aug 3, 2016 8:06am | Edited 8:18am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} Maybe becoz that adrenaline. Today I am trading on HTF, the drawdown is not very good but still have confident on My Trades. Aim a little higher SL/TP ratio at 1:3. Sometimes I remove My SL when the big reds news coming (Mental SL), made me feel better. I am not pure talent. I am not that good. On USDCHF, I let My SL triggered and I think that was a good decision coz MMs still pushing prices north.
Both of you are right, but adrenaline and excitement should be searched for outside trading. In trading, we should only collect green pips in boring and slow fashion.
Even getting some adrenaline on Demo is not so good idea, becouse a bad habit or two can slip into Live trading ( but I do pump myself out with overtrading on demo from time to time )...so go make some X sports or such..but trading should be cold and boring.

And BTW, there is a little pproblem existing trading HTF during such events as NFP , BOE and FOMC like this week. It is called SH, bro. You know it yourself. But ok, we live , we learn. I will write to the MMs not to hit your stops..
UChf was great fold, agree.
PVSRA
  • #202
  • Aug 3, 2016 8:16am Aug 3, 2016 8:16am
Quoting Robst3r
thats not a good feeling huh? I'm also always full of adrenaline.... I think it is because we have set a pretty high goal for ourselves
Hi Robster! Nice trade you there. Ya, We need to be rich as soon as possible.
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  • #203
  • Aug 3, 2016 8:18am Aug 3, 2016 8:18am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} Hi Robster! Nice trade you there. Ya, We need to be rich as soon as possible.


I guess you mean rich inside, huh?
PVSRA
  • #204
  • Aug 3, 2016 8:21am Aug 3, 2016 8:21am
Quoting Fisher755
GBPAUD Short: After many hours of IT issues yesterday I had a "smart" H4 trade. The kind of we would have to look at how not to trade. 30.3 pips average loss. {image} So good luck and especially good judgement to all for the rest of the year.
Might still work out but I think it will come into a dead zone now with the NFP coming soon.

Two possibilities here.
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  • #205
  • Aug 3, 2016 8:23am Aug 3, 2016 8:23am
Quoting attilafx
{quote} Might still work out but I think it will come into a dead zone now with the NFP coming soon. Two possibilities here. {image} {image}
Ahem.........we would like to wait for BOE tomorrow. And trade the breakout of the range.
There are always two possibilities: UP/DOWN.
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  • #206
  • Aug 3, 2016 8:26am Aug 3, 2016 8:26am
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} I will write to the MMs not to hit your stops.. UChf was great fold, agree.
It's very kind of U. I am curious You are truly one of the Bankster. By the way all My trades in good mode now, except the UJ. Nice trades there on EU.
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  • #207
  • Aug 3, 2016 8:38am Aug 3, 2016 8:38am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} It's very kind of U. I am curious You are truly one of the Bankster. By the way all My trades in good mode now, except the UJ. Nice trades there on EU.
EU- remains to be seen, since this is my only HTF trade. Safe at least until Friday. But thank you anyway.
And no, I'm not a bankster, they are fat and greedy and boring... and they are not kind at all.
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  • #208
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:19pm Aug 3, 2016 1:19pm
hi guys..i want to hear about all the opinion from all of you regarding my drawdown..this acc actually had survive within 6 month..the profit are consistent but sadly my drawdown are very poor..this is because I am full time trader..since my acc had only usd1k usd...and then last but not least majority all of my entry had no stop loss... ionly have manual cut lost when my equity down nearly half of the size acc..do u guys think this is a bad habit or not or should I stay with this trade style as long as I can grow the acc..lastly I had withdraw all the profit and let aside the principal only..sorry for my English..here I attach my TE..take care guys
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  • #209
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:25pm Aug 3, 2016 1:25pm
Quoting abelanun
hi guys..i want to hear about all the opinion from all of you regarding my drawdown..this acc actually had survive within 6 month..the profit are consistent but sadly my drawdown are very poor..this is because I am full time trader..since my acc had only usd1k usd...and then last but not least majority all of my entry had no stop loss... ionly have manual cut lost when my equity down nearly half of the size acc..do u guys think this is a bad habit or not or should I stay with this trade style as long as I can grow the acc..lastly I had withdraw...
Is this a joke?
Many traders would love to have such sweet problems..
...so I will comment nothing further and cannot wait to hear opinion from others here..
PVSRA
  • #210
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:29pm Aug 3, 2016 1:29pm
Quoting abelanun
hi guys..i want to hear about all the opinion from all of you regarding my drawdown..this acc actually had survive within 6 month..the profit are consistent but sadly my drawdown are very poor..this is because I am full time trader..since my acc had only usd1k usd...and then last but not least majority all of my entry had no stop loss... ionly have manual cut lost when my equity down nearly half of the size acc..do u guys think this is a bad habit or not or should I stay with this trade style as long as I can grow the acc..lastly I had withdraw...

In my opinion its not a good way to trade, soon or later you are going to blow your account, i had once 1300% profit doing what you do, i had 3 trades, really bad trades and blew ,y account, so if you want to last on time, change that, or try to cover yourself. Always there is a first time for everything. Maybe if you have very small account, you can do that to grow, it is like gambling too, but then you have to change your style.
Im a Crocodile, Im a Sniper. Patience is everything.
  • #211
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:34pm Aug 3, 2016 1:34pm
Wondering if i can actually be profitable this 1 year time limit my DD is horrible.
  • #212
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:36pm Aug 3, 2016 1:36pm
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} Is this a joke? Many traders would love to have such sweet problems.. ...so I will comment nothing further and cannot wait to hear opinion from others here..

it's ok fisher.. just want to know their opinion..gud luck at all
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  • #213
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:42pm Aug 3, 2016 1:42pm
Quoting Brucasella1
{quote} In my opinion its not a good way to trade, soon or later you are going to blow your account, i had once 1300% profit doing what you do, i had 3 trades, really bad trades and blew ,y account, so if you want to last on time, change that, or try to cover yourself. Always there is a first time for everything. Maybe if you have very small account, you can do that to grow, it is like gambling too, but then you have to change your style.

thanks for your reply..i am trying to adjusting my trading style..i totally agree with u..sooner when I get caught with bad trade I will lost my acc..but actually before this I had already try to discipline my trade using tight stop loss with proper risk n reward ratio...the problem is my stop loss hit and always more about 60-70% from be hit after that , price basically go to my plan n event hit TP...
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  • #214
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:46pm Aug 3, 2016 1:46pm
Quoting abelanun
hi guys..i want to hear about all the opinion from all of you regarding my drawdown..this acc actually had survive within 6 month..the profit are consistent but sadly my drawdown are very poor..this is because I am full time trader..since my acc had only usd1k usd...and then last but not least majority all of my entry had no stop loss... ionly have manual cut lost when my equity down nearly half of the size acc..do u guys think this is a bad habit or not or should I stay with this trade style as long as I can grow the acc..lastly I had withdraw...
hmm... well you have survived for 6 months, with some positive results overall. I agree with Brucasella1, in that it could be a dangerous way to trade.

I will tell you what I learned from a professional trader - You have to be comfortable with what you are risking per trade, per day, per week, per month, etc. in that you are confident with your ability to recover losses. Only way to know if your draw-down is "acceptable" is by your own experience and confidence. No one else can tell you what will work or not work for you.

Of course, you only asked for opinions, so no problem there. My opinion is that you are not comfortable with your draw-down/risk, otherwise, would not need to ask anyone else. Make sense?

6 months is a good stretch, but maybe you need a bit longer to build the confidence and improve your risk management?

You are welcome to join us and build on what you've already started. Then after a year (for you, maybe only 6 more months if things go well for you), see what improvements you can make and how much more confidence you have.

If you'd like to join us, rename your explorer as per thread rules, and welcome!

kind regards,
B
  • #215
  • Edited 1:59pm Aug 3, 2016 1:49pm | Edited 1:59pm
Quoting abelanun
{quote} it's ok fisher.. just want to know their opinion..gud luck at all
NP, we all make mistakes, have been making them and will be making them becouse we are not robots. You are fortunate becouse you only have to slightly modify your trading and focus on risk perspective a bit more. I agree with brucasella1 that trading without SL works until it doesn't work anymore. If after 5 years it is even more devastating. So plan your trades from the risk perspective, not from the profits perspective and all will be okay.

Just think about it, you earned in 26 weeks 1.600 X more than my bank would give me on yearly deposited $$$. No need for that really.
And another thing, yes, I wish good luck to all too...but in reality, luck has nothing to do with it if you plan your trades wisely.
PVSRA
  • #216
  • Aug 3, 2016 1:56pm Aug 3, 2016 1:56pm
Quoting benaiah
{quote} hmm... well you have survived for 6 months, with some positive results overall. I agree with Brucasella1, in that it could be a dangerous way to trade. I will tell you what I learned from a professional trader - You have to be comfortable with what you are risking per trade, per day, per week, per month, etc. in that you are confident with your ability to recover losses. Only way to know if your draw-down is "acceptable" is by your own experience and confidence. No one else can tell you what will work or not work for you. Of course, you...
thanks for the tips benaiah..I really appreciate that..yes u are right..i am not comfortable with this 50% drawdown..i afraid someday it will turn me off to bad habits..to be honest I am satisfied with my growth..i will think about it again..many thanks benaiah
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  • #217
  • Aug 3, 2016 2:02pm Aug 3, 2016 2:02pm
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} NP, we all make mistakes, have been making them and will be making them becouse we are not robots. You are fortunate becouse you only have to slightly modify your trading and focus on risk perspective a bit more. I agree with brucasella1 that trading without SL works until it doesn't work anymore. If after 5 years it is even more devastating. So plan your trades from the risk perspective, not from the profits perspective and all will be okay. Just think about it, you earned in 26 weeks...
thanks again..very nice explanation there..i appreciate that..i think I will adjusting my risk and reward ratio and stick for my system accordingly with proper SL and TP before entry..
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  • #218
  • Aug 3, 2016 2:06pm Aug 3, 2016 2:06pm
Quoting abelanun
{quote} thanks for your reply..i am trying to adjusting my trading style..i totally agree with u..sooner when I get caught with bad trade I will lost my acc..but actually before this I had already try to discipline my trade using tight stop loss with proper risk n reward ratio...the problem is my stop loss hit and always more about 60-70% from be hit after that , price basically go to my plan n event hit TP...
I completly understand you because all trader suffer that, i can speak for myself. I hate when my sl is touched for a few pips and the tha trade goes with my plan, i hate that, and that makes me feel that im not lucky or that im not good at trading, etc.
But you need to develop your own way to trade, dont tray to be millionaire in one year, everybody wants and beleive thay can, and that a lie, maybe some can do that with luck, and then they have to change the way they trade to preserve that account. Dont try to make 30% profit in one trade, i hear that some trades use 2% risk in a trade, and the look for 4% risk, so its a 1-2 risk reward. I use 6.5% risk per trade, and thats a lot, but my account is very small, and i want to make it interesting. I love trading, i hate not having much time to do it, i hate loosing, but we need patience and really beleive that we are not going to be millionaire in one year or 2 or 3. if you are consistent with a good drawdown you can also get funds from other people to trade with that. Imagine an 200 thousand dollars, with a 2% profit per trade.
Clues:
Be consistent
Small drawdown
Profit= or more than Risk per trade.

Myself are trying to fight with a lot of issues that i need to fix to be a good trader.
Im a Crocodile, Im a Sniper. Patience is everything.
  • #219
  • Aug 3, 2016 2:06pm Aug 3, 2016 2:06pm
Quoting abelanun
{quote} thanks again..very nice explanation there..i appreciate that..i think I will adjusting my risk and reward ratio and stick for my system accordingly with proper SL and TP before entry..
There is another weapon against Stop hunts: re-entry or switch trade direction. Try it out on demo that you get the feeling for it becouse it needs some time to master properly.
PVSRA
  • #220
  • Aug 3, 2016 2:38pm Aug 3, 2016 2:38pm
Quoting Brucasella1
{quote} I completly understand you because all trader suffer that, i can speak for myself. I hate when my sl is touched for a few pips and the tha trade goes with my plan, i hate that, and that makes me feel that im not lucky or that im not good at trading, etc. But you need to develop your own way to trade, dont tray to be millionaire in one year, everybody wants and beleive thay can, and that a lie, maybe some can do that with luck, and then they have to change the way they trade to preserve that account. Dont try to make 30% profit in one trade,...
thanks a lot brucasella for sharing your experience and give me a very nice tips..i will take your advice..yes it is true..i also agree with u that to be a consistent trader we need to maintain our drawdown as less as we can to avoid our emotion that can lead to more stress and that can abandoned our system in trading..another question..i also have another problems regarding moving my entry to BE..same problem as before I put my SL...whenever price go 20 to 30 pips I move to BE then price come to my BE and than reverse back to my TP..so, right now I only move to BE when price above my entry at least 60 pips from my entry...
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