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  • #434,141
  • Edited 8:57am Jul 6, 2016 8:33am | Edited 8:57am
lol nothing complex about sovereignty ,or real life problems of immigration in an overcrowded country, you can see it ,with your own eyes if you step out of London and Scotland.
Were talking real life problems at the core of decision ,like no homes ,lower wages, could go on
they don't affect your average MP

Besides the reason experts are not trusted is because its so complex not even the experts get its right best thing is open your eyes see real life stuff
only time will tell going forward how this plays out ,political landscape every man for himself is not helping ,when it settles it can still be saved its in their hands
they would have to be positive in the first instance ,a deal can be done in everyones interest.

EU is the arrogant player here ,this could have been avoided from their side
apart from going on holiday these markets mean nothing to your average person
its not a Muslim or Eastern European thing at all who knows where your really from considering the influx were pretty tolerant ,in the end their stay if they like & the average person will say no problem

Its actually very arrogant to sit there and say , the countries citizens, can't make any such decision



Quoting micho
{quote} if you give a very complex political and economical problem that requires complex solutions to a farmer to solve by a yes or no question. do you call this democracy? i call it stupidity this should be addressed by the minister of economy and his counselors together with the rest of the parliament and the economy people, not by the average joe and not by a yes or no wtf type of answer
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  • #434,142
  • Jul 6, 2016 8:39am Jul 6, 2016 8:39am
Quoting Bones
lol nothing complex about sovereignty ,or real life problems of immigration in an overcrowded country, you can see it ,with your own eyes if you step out of London and Scotland. Were talking real life problems at the core of decision ,like no homes ,lower wages, could go on they don't affect your average MP Besides the reason experts are not trusted is because its so complex not even the experts get its right best thing is open your eyes see real life stuff only time will tell going forward how this plays out ,political landscape every...
Well all the PM had to do to not be the PM was not to promise a referendumb..
He did and the rest is history - sure eventually things will level out they usually do, as winston said after the event such an amazing feeling winning a war and a world one at that ..
  • #434,143
  • Edited 9:00am Jul 6, 2016 8:49am | Edited 9:00am
yea but the rising was already there ,probably he wouldn't be PM without the promise ,it was the right thing to do ,
personally id like to see more referendums like Switzerland its not popular at Westminster ,but what what would you expect
no one can deny the referendum engaged the country to politics

"The vast majority of laws and legislative acts enter into force without being contested in a popular vote. However, if you disagree with an act of parliament, it is possible to oppose it by launching a referendum. For the referendum to go ahead, 50,000 eligible voters must provide their signature in support of the request within 100 days."


Quoting dean1star
{quote} Well all the PM had to do to not be the PM was not to promise a referendumb.. He did and the rest is history - sure eventually things will level out they usually do, as winston said after the event such an amazing feeling winning a war and a world one at that ..
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  • #434,144
  • Jul 6, 2016 8:58am Jul 6, 2016 8:58am
I spotted bearish divergence in GU. Advise me the TP.
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  • #434,145
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:05am Jul 6, 2016 9:05am
Quoting al_yaqen
I spotted bearish divergence in GU. Advise me the TP. {image}
1.28 Maybe
  • #434,146
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:05am Jul 6, 2016 9:05am
Quoting Devart
{quote} What do you think about the UK's proposal to decrease the taxes on companies in order to be competitive with ireland?
its good but ireland is at 12% can they really compete with ireland?
ireland is a very friendly multi cultural country, can they compete on that aspect as well?
ireland also are very well educated and competent people, with alot of young people, can they compete with that?
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #434,147
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:10am Jul 6, 2016 9:10am
Quoting She1
{quote} 1.28 Maybe
Aha thank you master.
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  • #434,148
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:12am Jul 6, 2016 9:12am
Quoting Bones
lol nothing complex about sovereignty ,or real life problems of immigration in an overcrowded country, you can see it ,with your own eyes if you step out of London and Scotland. Were talking real life problems at the core of decision ,like no homes ,lower wages, could go on they don't affect your average MP Besides the reason experts are not trusted is because its so complex not even the experts get its right best thing is open your eyes see real life stuff only time will tell going forward how this plays out ,political landscape every...
do you agree with me about this:

 

  1. foreign eu/uk/au and usa policies regarding conflicts and wars around the world is not fair, selfish and causing miseries to the people in the affected countries
  2. the people of uk have elected these governments, the same goes for eu and usa/au. there is nobody else to blame as to why georgia and russia collided, and why iraq/syria are fucked, palestine are long fucked, and lebanon could be on the way, the gulf and turkey supporting terrorism, where as iran and russia are paying the price of sanctions because usa wants it so and eu is following as a slave.
  3. you cannot give a referendum on a complex matter be it economical or political unless its the actual normal election. you cannot ask children if they would like ice cream 20 days a day they will say yes, they dont know the consequences


if you dont agree with all 3 points then i think we are living in completely different worlds.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #434,149
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:26am Jul 6, 2016 9:26am
We are ,your not in the real world ,
obviously some of these conflicts were a mistake
personally I don't like any war at all
I would hope the reasoning of any act like that is whats felt is in the interest of the world ,I can not say
Are a lot of these people really happy to be dictated to ,the worst kind of human rights you could imagine ?
seems pretty stupid to compare real life problems with ice cream think about it people voted knowing the huge risks ,more like not having your cake




Quoting micho
{quote} do you agree with me about this: foreign eu/uk/au and usa policies regarding conflicts and wars around the world is not fair, selfish and causing miseries to the people in the affected countries the people of uk have elected these governments, the same goes for eu and usa/au. there is nobody else to blame as to why georgia and russia collided, and why iraq/syria are fucked, palestine are long fucked, and lebanon could be on the way, the gulf and turkey supporting terrorism, where as iran and russia are paying the price of sanctions because...
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  • #434,150
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:30am Jul 6, 2016 9:30am
Quoting micho
{quote} if you give a very complex political and economical problem that requires complex solutions to a farmer to solve by a yes or no question. do you call this democracy? i call it stupidity this should be addressed by the minister of economy and his counselors together with the rest of the parliament and the economy people, not by the average joe and not by a yes or no wtf type of answer
Learn to manage your anger. The Brits have spoken.
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #434,151
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:30am Jul 6, 2016 9:30am
close all recovered my loss.

Now waiting.

2 cent ever for a long but i'm flat :-)
  • #434,152
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:35am Jul 6, 2016 9:35am
I've come to the realisation that the sooner we get of Oil the sooner we'll be far better off. Electric vehicles are the way to go but of course we will still need oil for plastics and lubrication but the less we use the better everyone will be.

If you think about it carefully the motor car is totally geared to consuming oil products in one way or another for the 30 odd years it's alive.

So once we go large scale electric then the oil producing countries will have less customers and less influence on the world. This conflict with the middle east was Oil driven for the last 60 plus years and the environmental benefits will be huge....
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  • #434,153
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:36am Jul 6, 2016 9:36am
I don't agree with any dictatorship at all ,or any section forcing their own religious beliefs
its sad that many have never known freedom ,all Europe is still our friends we would be there for them as before just we don't want to be governed by them
Free trade, great this get back to whats good


Quoting micho
{quote} do you agree with me about this: foreign eu/uk/au and usa policies regarding conflicts and wars around the world is not fair, selfish and causing miseries to the people in the affected countries the people of uk have elected these governments, the same goes for eu and usa/au. there is nobody else to blame as to why georgia and russia collided, and why iraq/syria are fucked, palestine are long fucked, and lebanon could be on the way, the gulf and turkey supporting terrorism, where as iran and russia are paying the price of sanctions because...
On-site guru & also FF member's' psychiatrist, when not drinking tea
  • #434,154
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:43am Jul 6, 2016 9:43am
Quoting KeenPips
{quote} Learn to manage your anger. The Brits have spoken.
Love it....
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  • #434,155
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:56am Jul 6, 2016 9:56am
Quoting Bones
We are ,your not in the real world , obviously some of these conflicts were a mistake personally I don't like any war at all I would hope the reasoning of any act like that is whats felt is in the interest of the world ,I can not say Are a lot of these people really happy to be dictated to ,the worst kind of human rights you could imagine ? seems pretty stupid to compare real life problems with ice cream think about it people voted knowing the huge risks ,more like not having your cake {quote}
ok good, let me tell you this

i am from the real world, i have been born in war, lived through many wars, suffered from corruption and setbacks caused by the wars, had to leave my own country and immigrate and suffer consequences on this decision, but i fought and never surrendered and came through all this shit. i am in the real world, not sure about you
i am telling you this based on my experience not based on hallucinations and CNN
ok go and ask a farmer or engineer who's IQ is 80 or even 100: do you like to be independent? do you like to have increase in your health insurance cover, do you want a job? YES OR NO

he will fucking say yes, now these people said yes. what is the fucking plan?
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #434,156
  • Jul 6, 2016 9:59am Jul 6, 2016 9:59am
There was a professor on the radio and what the US and UK caused in Iraq was shocking
Those people need our support
Hope we never ever go to war again
Peace
  • #434,157
  • Jul 6, 2016 10:07am Jul 6, 2016 10:07am
Quoting Fader123
There was a professor on the radio and what the US and UK caused in Iraq was shocking Those people need our support Hope we never ever go to war again Peace
Amen. But some people on this thread declare war on others who don't share their views - in certain cases, their somewhat jaundiced views
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  • #434,158
  • Jul 6, 2016 10:16am Jul 6, 2016 10:16am
Quoting KeenPips
{quote} Amen. But some people on this thread declare war on others who don't share their views - in certain cases, their somewhat jaundiced views
that is FF for you a lot of negative things
  • #434,159
  • Jul 6, 2016 10:20am Jul 6, 2016 10:20am
Quoting adetola99
{quote} that is FF for you a lot of negative things
And a lot of -ve people.
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #434,160
  • Jul 6, 2016 10:32am Jul 6, 2016 10:32am
Quoting Bones
yea but the rising was already there ,probably he wouldn't be PM without the promise ,it was the right thing to do , personally id like to see more referendums like Switzerland its not popular at Westminster ,but what what would you expect no one can deny the referendum engaged the country to politics "The vast majority of laws and legislative acts enter into force without being contested in a popular vote. However, if you disagree with an act of parliament, it is possible to oppose it by launching a referendum. For the referendum to go ahead, 50,000...
Brexit is here to stay - so i guess people had better get used to the fact, sure positive things will appear out of this in time, they always do.
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