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  • #1,841
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:00am Jun 27, 2016 9:00am
That was weird, on Forex.com (1st TE) it was on fixed instead of increment (do not remember changing it) and just opened 130 contracts in 2 min for same pair(all other pairs still on increment). I have not changed to the new version on that demo yet.
  • #1,842
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:04am Jun 27, 2016 9:04am
Quoting jdva
{quote} yes, I'm optimistic that GA will come down but can last awhile...atm 10 shorts
today's range 366 pips so far...I think that should be enough...IMHO
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
  • #1,843
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:04am Jun 27, 2016 9:04am
Quoting Dragonsinc
That was weird, on Forex.com (1st TE) it was on fixed instead of increment (do not remember changing it) and just opened 130 contracts in 2 min for same pair(all other pairs still on increment). I have not changed to the new version on that demo yet.
Re-start your terminal.

It needs an update.

I had this happen with a Gold trader I was working on. Logic was completely fucked over by not updating.
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  • #1,844
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:05am Jun 27, 2016 9:05am
Quoting jdva
{quote} of course...no correction..!
Please correct me where possible I am human.
London session is ending. I think it is going down is already getting sideways.
But that doesn't mean I want some feedback from Sir Magix !
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock
  • #1,845
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:18am Jun 27, 2016 9:18am
Quoting Johnhere
Magix, We discussed it before but why on earth is the logic making his problems bigger sometimes by not closing profits way bigger then TP value 1$. Again I am watching at it that it is 35 + ? and it just getting back in DD again and adding an increment ?. It is not happening sometimes but quite a lot today. It is fine to manually close profit but I want to let the logic do this. So where is it waiting for and what could be the logic from this and why can't there be an extra TP trigger or the existing one that overrules the logic right away when...

Triggering requires a condition to be met, on both entries and exits.

If/Then...

The logic behind both Falling Knives and Lost Sock isn't based on 100% absolutes, it is based on reasonable ranges and higher probabilities.

We have all witnessed the results of the Brexit referendum on an account or 2 which looks a lot like total account annihilation.

IF I changed the Triggers for entries or exits at this point, it would completely change the entire dynamics of the logic. Coding in exceptional circumstances may make a difference on price spikes, but could be detrimental to the overall profiting factor.

Keep in mind, the system, cost averaging and pyramiding is playing the odds....looking for probabilities.

If the trend is down and we continue to sell, we are likely to meet a profiting criteria that is looking for a reasonable range to time frame.
If the trend reverses, we reasonably expect to be able to cost average out of this.
If the extension continues to the point of complete reversal, we are going to try and drag the losers into victory.
IF not, we will see a stop loss hit.

Given the amount of times, with the exception of last week, that the logic has actually hit the stop loss value, a certain appreciation must be lent to the fact that we are working with the highest probabilities and that if we continue to play by the rules we will continue to win by these rules.

Life and trading, for consistency, is based on rules.
Not exceptions.

I know what you are saying and have an account with the same GBPAUD trades open...running a side-by comparison for the "Lost Sock".
Much as I too hate to see this many positions and a sizable draw on the account, it follows the understanding that we've succeeded through some fairly incredible shit...not much reason for me to believe that anything different will happen.
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  • #1,846
  • Edited 9:35am Jun 27, 2016 9:23am | Edited 9:35am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Triggering requires a condition to be met, on both entries and exits. If/Then... The logic behind both Falling Knives and Lost Sock isn't based on 100% absolutes, it is based on reasonable ranges and higher probabilities. We have all witnessed the results of the Brexit referendum on an account or 2 which looks a lot like total account annihilation. IF I changed the Triggers for entries or exits at this point, it would completely change the entire dynamics of the logic. Coding in exceptional circumstances may make a difference on price spikes,...
Thanks man Trusting the logic and the history on that by now but that implying to me that 1600 balance for 4-7 Pairs is risky or just let margin call come in and take the loss. Just trying to find the edges here while fully into Live trading with it
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock
  • #1,847
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:45am Jun 27, 2016 9:45am
Quoting Johnhere
{quote} Thanks man but that implying to me that 1600 balance for 4-7 Pairs is risky or just let margin call come in and take the loss. Just trying to find the edges here while fully into Live trading with it
The excessive ranges created last week, change the standard dynamics of our expectations.

Over the weekend, when I stated that I will be sitting out another week of market waiting for normalization, this is what I was referring to.

To correct the size of the market range, we will need 3-5 days without a massive counter spike that would completely fuck things to the counter side.

This is a bit of a delicate balance and especially with a $1600 balance.

I am still sitting out live with my account, near double that size for safety...I can wait a little while longer to try and ensure that the dynamics of ranges goes back to the code understanding of standard range deviations.

Given the history, it would take an incredible stroke of bad luck to find the single day that blows up your account...but I can't say that I haven't been there before.
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  • #1,848
  • Jun 27, 2016 9:54am Jun 27, 2016 9:54am
Quoting Magix
{quote} The excessive ranges created last week, change the standard dynamics of our expectations. Over the weekend, when I stated that I will be sitting out another week of market waiting for normalization, this is what I was referring to. To correct the size of the market range, we will need 3-5 days without a massive counter spike that would completely fuck things to the counter side. This is a bit of a delicate balance and especially with a $1600 balance. I am still sitting out live with my account, near double that size for safety...I can wait...
Your explanations are very clear and helpful. And yes this week is still in Brexit and last week is still on chart.
Will work on patience over here and think about to raise my balance to sleep as a baby
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock
  • #1,849
  • Edited 10:55am Jun 27, 2016 10:42am | Edited 10:55am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Key: 04485BBDFDFCF4E69B9D1297323F7A79E0184FD8817898FAFAA23D249192B7802945D04E98578F7F394F0261024908FC
Key not working says account check failed! can you please regenerate key for :
Live a/c ID: CBA875A06621A834A503EA0EE1733FCE
  • #1,850
  • Jun 27, 2016 10:51am Jun 27, 2016 10:51am
Quoting radadiya
{quote} Key not working seems some wearied long key! can you please regenerate key for : Live a/c ID: CBA875A06621A834A503EA0EE1733FCE
Have you downloaded the version from post 1?
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  • #1,851
  • Jun 27, 2016 10:52am Jun 27, 2016 10:52am
Quoting radadiya
{quote} Key not working seems some wearied long key! can you please regenerate key for : Live a/c ID: CBA875A06621A834A503EA0EE1733FCE

Key:
Inserted Code
04485BBDFDFCF4E69B9D1297323F7A79E0184FD8817898FAFAA23D249192B780D0A954F13F9FB9861F3624B510B44193
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  • #1,852
  • Jun 27, 2016 10:56am Jun 27, 2016 10:56am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Have you downloaded the version from post 1?
Yes sir!
  • #1,853
  • Jun 27, 2016 11:00am Jun 27, 2016 11:00am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Key: 04485BBDFDFCF4E69B9D1297323F7A79E0184FD8817898FAFAA23D249192B780D0A954F13F9FB9861F3624B510B44193
Thanks! Its working with this new key!
  • #1,854
  • Jun 27, 2016 11:01am Jun 27, 2016 11:01am
Meanwhile DEMO 15 Pairs not sitting any news out, just working 21 hours fully TODAY.

Unbelievable.
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"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock
  • #1,855
  • Jun 27, 2016 11:57am Jun 27, 2016 11:57am
Quoting radadiya
{quote} Thanks! Its working with this new key!

Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #1,856
  • Jun 27, 2016 11:57am Jun 27, 2016 11:57am
Quoting Johnhere
Meanwhile DEMO 15 Pairs not sitting any news out, just working 21 hours fully TODAY. Unbelievable. {image}

Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #1,857
  • Jun 27, 2016 12:06pm Jun 27, 2016 12:06pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} For the most part, all the same as far as the triggering and trade logic is concerned. The main differences: Drag the Dead fixed to close on same candle - As shown ->HERE Optimized triggering - to require less calculations by order of value checking - may make a difference in both closing, primary triggering and supplemental trades. Added: Wussy close as a option, give the user more control over trade closing Daily Roll Filter, a little more aggressive in nature,...
Ok cool will give it a whirl, a little concerned on trading live this week with the current EU summit's with Brexit on the agenda.
I think it will be a rough week ahead.

When will these new codes expire which you giving us to give a go?
Want to see it perform live next week...
  • #1,858
  • Jun 27, 2016 12:28pm Jun 27, 2016 12:28pm
Quoting SpencerBizze
{quote} Ok cool will give it a whirl, a little concerned on trading live this week with the current EU summit's with Brexit on the agenda. I think it will be a rough week ahead. When will these new codes expire which you giving us to give a go? Want to see it perform live next week...
Expiration date of the code is set to July 02, 2016 - same as the previous version.

After that, hopefully the vendor will be online.



Me...I too will be sitting out of market this week with the EAs.

28 Pairs is doing nice as is the Lost Sock (alternate). This will be fine for me to watch this week and work on next.

Next week being an NFP week, may be short lived for me, but will be testing live on a couple.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #1,859
  • Jun 27, 2016 1:37pm Jun 27, 2016 1:37pm
This keeps me consistently amused.

46 Downloads and only a fist full of folks requesting a key.



Either the same 8 guys downloaded 5+ times each (which I doubt)...or there are a bunch of Backtest Junkies wondering why this fucker doesn't work.
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  • #1,860
  • Jun 27, 2016 4:26pm Jun 27, 2016 4:26pm
Quoting Magix
This keeps me consistently amused. 46 Downloads and only a fist full of folks requesting a key. Either the same 8 guys downloaded 5+ times each (which I doubt)...or there are a bunch of Backtest Junkies wondering why this fucker doesn't work. {image}
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