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  • #1,070,861
  • Jun 26, 2016 2:11pm Jun 26, 2016 2:11pm
Quoting Not-KPMG
{quote} he is time traveller. From the times when Britain occupied india Ehhhh good ole times. British folks could go everywhere and take everything...... Now things are reversed. British no-like-it.
british only likes to take, no give
they go to india, they take
they go to south africa they take

take take take no give
good luck for them now
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #1,070,862
  • Jun 26, 2016 3:13pm Jun 26, 2016 3:13pm
Gaps everywhere
TE started 6/4/19
  • #1,070,863
  • Jun 26, 2016 3:33pm Jun 26, 2016 3:33pm
a crown
I'm waiting a ret about1.1230 then for 10.930_860
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  • #1,070,864
  • Jun 26, 2016 3:34pm Jun 26, 2016 3:34pm
Quoting Megatanit
{quote} I have made a hedging method to avoid any margin call till the market opens on Monday. My broker increased the spreads in a crazy way at 23:59 pm on Friday.I have lost all positions as they were closed.I couldn't understand this to be honnest. they have increased EURUSD up to X 100 times. From 0.4 pips to 40 pips. How come the hedging couldn't keep the account safe? any body faced this problem before? {image}
i think hedging is like closing the trade in a loss, pointless i think
better stick to your trade
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #1,070,865
  • Jun 26, 2016 4:01pm Jun 26, 2016 4:01pm
Quoting micho
tempted to take a long on eg but spread is high
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #1,070,866
  • Jun 26, 2016 4:18pm Jun 26, 2016 4:18pm
Quoting Not-KPMG
{quote} sorry man. Buying GBP..... What can i say more? Spread is crooked - is that Oanda or some smaller bucket shop?? Every evening close some positions
These spreads are from Tickmill ECN account. Their execution and spreads were not bad during normal trading hours. Don't know what they mean by doing that on Friday closing.
The difference between gambling and speculating is risk management
  • #1,070,867
  • Jun 26, 2016 4:21pm Jun 26, 2016 4:21pm
Quoting micho
{quote} i think hedging is like closing the trade in a loss, pointless i think better stick to your trade
I agree, I totally regret hedging my positions and not closing them with an early minimum loss.
The difference between gambling and speculating is risk management
  • #1,070,868
  • Jun 26, 2016 4:33pm Jun 26, 2016 4:33pm
Quoting Megatanit
{quote} I agree, I totally regret hedging my positions and not closing them with an early minimum loss.
lol... better luck next time. take care of your hair otherwise you become bold
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
  • #1,070,869
  • Jun 26, 2016 4:45pm Jun 26, 2016 4:45pm
Quoting Marz30
Gaps everywhere
60 pips down gap. Lets cloooooooose it. All charge up
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
  • #1,070,870
  • Jun 26, 2016 4:56pm Jun 26, 2016 4:56pm
It is not just Tickmill, most brokers increase their spreads around 30 minutes before market close on Fridays. That's why you should either close them or make sure you have plenty of equity in the account.
  • #1,070,871
  • Jun 26, 2016 5:06pm Jun 26, 2016 5:06pm
Quoting Megatanit
{quote} I agree, I totally regret hedging my positions and not closing them with an early minimum loss.
Hedging works as reversal technique and would need a way to calculate when you break even to be able to able to also calculate what price is need to close all hedging positions in profit.. Many traders use this but you need to start at lowest risk possible if the market is volatile like nowadays. that way when you hedge and wan to reverse a number of time, you can use as much of your allowed margin as you can..

I take it you simply took a position in the opposite direction with exactly the same size right?
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  • #1,070,872
  • Jun 26, 2016 5:07pm Jun 26, 2016 5:07pm
The theory is GAPS should close. Im long gu an eu. Lets see if sl kicks in or i get tp
  • #1,070,873
  • Jun 26, 2016 5:28pm Jun 26, 2016 5:28pm
Quoting baherhosni
{quote} Hedging works as reversal technique and would need a way to calculate when you break even to be able to able to also calculate what price is need to close all hedging positions in profit.. Many traders use this but you need to start at lowest risk possible if the market is volatile like nowadays. that way when you hedge and wan to reverse a number of time, you can use as much of your allowed margin as you can.. I take it you simply took a position in the opposite direction with exactly the same size right?
Yes. That's true hedging by opening positions with the same size in the opposite direction.I also agree that this needs to be used as reversal technique .But this will work only when market moves to the reversal levels,and some times it will keep floating or ranging in a price that you can't close any of these positions. So either close them or your broker will find a way to close them (Friday last minute massive spreads) lol.
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  • #1,070,874
  • Jun 26, 2016 5:30pm Jun 26, 2016 5:30pm
Quoting krassen
It is not just Tickmill, most brokers increase their spreads around 30 minutes before market close on Fridays. That's why you should either close them or make sure you have plenty of equity in the account.
True
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  • #1,070,875
  • Jun 26, 2016 7:09pm Jun 26, 2016 7:09pm
Quoting micho
{quote} i think hedging is like closing the trade in a loss, pointless i think better stick to your trade
the point is to close both sides in profit, lol

hedging is a result of loss aversion. Once emotion takes over, the outcome is not good.
  • #1,070,876
  • Jun 26, 2016 7:31pm Jun 26, 2016 7:31pm
Quoting Freelve
The theory is GAPS should close. Im long gu an eu. Lets see if sl kicks in or i get tp
Even if you're right, you can't tell when its going to close. It may take days and go a long way in opposite direction. This is from Scottish referendum, daily chart. It took over 3 days and 150 pips in opposite direction before closing the gab.
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  • #1,070,877
  • Jun 26, 2016 8:01pm Jun 26, 2016 8:01pm
Quoting krassen
It is not just Tickmill, most brokers increase their spreads around 30 minutes before market close on Fridays. That's why you should either close them or make sure you have plenty of equity in the account.
Itīs just natural, happens every Friday on every serious ECN broker. Liquidity is getting thin during these times and at 23:59 youīll see the widest spreads as banks pull liquidity in the last minute almost completely, leaving you with a market that just consists of a few offers and bids left that go into the weekend, hence spread can be anywhere from 0 to 100 pips or more in a worst case scenario. usually they are somewhere between 20 to 40 pips on a normal ECN broker. Thatīs just the real market, if no one trades and hence offers liquidity with their limit orders, you canīt get low spreads. Remember that spread is the difference between the best buy and best sell order in the order book. And naturally by Friday 23:59 the order book is almost empty and youīll see such spreads.

The only way to avoid this is to remove your stops right before market close if you want to go into weekend exposure and not get stopped out at 23:59 because of spread spikes (and that wonīt hurt since stops are not honored on the weekend anyway) and put them on again after market open, or simply close your positions before the weekend.
  • #1,070,878
  • Jun 26, 2016 9:17pm Jun 26, 2016 9:17pm
Quoting Megatanit
{quote} Yes. That's true hedging by opening positions with the same size in the opposite direction.I also agree that this needs to be used as reversal technique .But this will work only when market moves to the reversal levels,ol.
Right, and that's exactly why this reversal tactics NEVER work
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  • #1,070,879
  • Jun 26, 2016 9:24pm Jun 26, 2016 9:24pm
Why is this cr.p going south??? Is that Spanish reaction? Market slump? Because looking at China, it must go up...
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  • #1,070,880
  • Jun 26, 2016 9:29pm Jun 26, 2016 9:29pm
Quoting Not-KPMG
Why is this cr.p going south??? Is that Spanish reaction? Market slump? Because looking at China, it must go up...
Maybe the RB wants to go long on a cheaper price?
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