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  • #3,581
  • Jun 7, 2016 3:12am Jun 7, 2016 3:12am
Quoting jonirrenicus
{quote} Stop mode can let the profit run in trending markets only and it has a weakness which is inevitable: If the price jump (especially on NFP/Bid rate/important NEWS), all stop orders will be dealt at very bad price lvl. I have made a EA before which is good at NEWS breakout, and i inquired VVfish(news trading master) for his suggestion. "this is not gotta work in NEWS time" he replied. Then i give it up....
That is why I choose my current broker
You can't escape from slippage, IMO. On the background, requote is something "usual" that is happening during high volume times like NFP or bid news. My previous 2 brokers were quite bad at slippage. You order on some price, after NFP happened, the price can slip far away from what you expect. But their weekend spread is not too bad, while my current broker is having quite big spread on weekends' gap. But that went well on me, because I never trade during weekends' gap.

Plus I can "play" a little trick over there to quickly increase my profit rate in yearly. *** ooooops... I said it

Quoting jonirrenicus
If you play on Demo, all stop order will be dealt at whatever price you set. For real accounts, huge slippage will eat up your profit.
"Apparently", my current broker is the best one to simulate Live account. You'll face slippage in demo account.
I can't find any other broker with demo account which simulates slippage except my current broker.....


But that's just my humble opinion, I have nothing related to them anyway. Just sharing my personal experience.
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  • #3,582
  • Jun 7, 2016 8:43pm Jun 7, 2016 8:43pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} That is why I choose my current broker You can't escape from slippage, IMO. On the background, requote is something "usual" that is happening during high volume times like NFP or bid news. My previous 2 brokers were quite bad at slippage. You order on some price, after NFP happened, the price can slip far away from what you expect. But their weekend spread is not too bad, while my current broker is having quite big spread on weekends' gap. But that went well on me, because I never trade during weekends' gap. Plus I can "play" a little...
My broker is good too, i see large spread widened only happens during the first 1-2 minutes when NFB/Bid rate released .

And they are honest, my order hit TP at the highest or lowest price of the day several times.

My opinion, slippage is nothing to do with your broker. The way that stop orders work is deal your order at the break. If the price jump up 100 pips in one tick which bypassed your setting price, buy stop order will be dealt at +100 pips higher.

For i don't use stop orders, I will get the same result in demo Acc. or real one.
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  • #3,583
  • Jun 7, 2016 9:25pm Jun 7, 2016 9:25pm
Just a note for the day, a new version v1.12 is released.

Release Notes:

  1. Added the following in Notification Message: Symbol, CommentInfo.
  2. Rearranged the Notification Message (the message which will be sent to your phone).
  3. Added vertical line time limiter.

I'll post a documentation soon on how it works, especially on vertical time limiter.

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  • #3,584
  • Jun 9, 2016 7:13pm Jun 9, 2016 7:13pm
Told ya, I'm not a fan of STOP Orders.
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We'll see how it can survive for the next 1 or 2 months. It already reached 90 trades total. If you trade the same as my broker, the max pending and open trades is 200.
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  • #3,585
  • Jun 10, 2016 2:45am Jun 10, 2016 2:45am
Hmmm... I'm happy today, the Donation Box account is now fully recovered (based on the report). It was a devastating moment when I saw the last big lost, but I didn't think to give up. There are some room for improvements. And today officially reaching All Time Return 0% which marks the completion of recovery process.
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I don't want to say the EA is profitable, but at least I see something here. As I've said before, I see this investment in a longer term like 5 or 10 years, not just 6 months. We've just reached more than a year started from the idea, then a year from the demo account, and about less than 8 months for Live accounts.

Pertaining to the last large lost, I'm quite sure that this issue will not happen in future. Now I'm in more control, I can turn OFF the other pair to give space to the current large floating loss. Unless there's no major news (bid rate, NFP) ahead, I will try to cut loss at the best price. In which until now I have not reached any of this cut-loss scenario.

I'll make a move then! See you next week!
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  • #3,586
  • Jun 10, 2016 3:33am Jun 10, 2016 3:33am
hello radityo,
i have an idea
if choose limit, try to using multiplikator lot
example 0.01 , 0.02 , 0.04 etc
onorebate
  • #3,587
  • Jun 10, 2016 4:02am Jun 10, 2016 4:02am
Quoting putrimawarfx
hello radityo, i have an idea if choose limit, try to using multiplikator lot example 0.01 , 0.02 , 0.04 etc
Martingale does seems interesting, as it guarantee you to be a winner always, provided that you have unlimited amount of capital. But I won't recommend that on Live, not until I get convinced if it can withstand 3-5 years of investment without fail. So, I don't really recommend that.

Did a quick backtest, $1000 per 0.01 lot can get around 50% a month but it won't last long.
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$10000 per 0.01, it might be okay. But my concern is on the risk.
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The thing is that, once you jump into normal martingale, you can't divide your risk. At least you should have $10000 or $100 for cents account (it's already highrisk over there).
My suggestion would be to do backtest, and observe in demo first. If you convinced enough, don't go with large investment but take live cents account to test for next 6 months - 1 year.
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  • #3,588
  • Jun 10, 2016 4:08am Jun 10, 2016 4:08am
Quoting radityo.ardi
Just a note for the day, a new version v1.12 is released. Release Notes: Added the following in Notification Message: Symbol, CommentInfo. Rearranged the Notification Message (the message which will be sent to your phone). Added vertical line time limiter. I'll post a documentation soon on how it works, especially on vertical time limiter.
Hello,

I see in download section only v 1.11 .Where is v 1.12 ?

regards
mojepole
  • #3,589
  • Jun 10, 2016 4:13am Jun 10, 2016 4:13am
Quoting putrimawarfx
hello radityo, i have an idea if choose limit, try to using multiplikator lot example 0.01 , 0.02 , 0.04 etc
And this is the result with $5000. Pretty much f**ked up.
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What I did to test just to use DonationBox set for EURUSD, then change
Initial Lots Type: Fixed Gradual
Initial Lots: 0.01
Gradual Lots Operator: Multiply
Gradual Lots Multiplier: 2
Target Type: Fixed
Target Profit: 5 ($5)

I have not change any parameter yet. But you can try backtest it with any different combination.
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  • #3,590
  • Jun 10, 2016 4:16am Jun 10, 2016 4:16am
Quoting mojepole
{quote} Hello, I see in download section only v 1.11 .Where is v 1.12 ? regards mojepole
It's there.
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  • #3,591
  • Edited 4:48am Jun 12, 2016 4:30am | Edited 4:48am
Quoting radityo.ardi
Am kicking off again GTSTOP, now with 0.00001 lot size multiplier, and Gradual Add at 0.01. So, the lot size will gradually added 0.01 on each grid. Currently attached to EURUSD, GBPUSD, and EURJPY. Probably will add more pairs, but as of now is only that 3. {image} Let us see the result on the long run! Note that this is only DEMO account.
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} {quote} ..... STOP orders is safer than with LIMIT orders..... I would say - with one EA is safer to trade in the direction of flow than against it. Manually I trade almost always against and looking for the Turnpoint - of course with the SL. That is why I mentioned in a previous post EA viper. This EA trades with stop orders in the direction of flow ( for example - buy) but if the market turned then multiplies the counter - sell stop orders .... and so on ... There...
Great job, my dear friend!!!
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  • #3,592
  • Jun 12, 2016 5:43pm Jun 12, 2016 5:43pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
Hi All, I've been running a slightly different strategy in this month, resulting in a quite good return and low drawdown. I'm not really sure how it is in a long run, but I think hishamzz idea seems to be considerably good. As previously mentioned, the idea was to separate the risk into multiple risks. How to do that? Initial Idea I came up with an idea to calculate the risk by calling it Density. You can read it here: http://rdzgridtraps.codeplex.com/wik...=Documentation This "Density" thing I consider...

i dont know if you remember my "experiments" with multi-crosses

the best scenario is to stick with majors and leave the "high movers" for another "separate version"

havent tested with exotics though...this would be a nice try for someone
  • #3,593
  • Jun 12, 2016 8:17pm Jun 12, 2016 8:17pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} i dont know if you remember my "experiments" with multi-crosses the best scenario is to stick with majors and leave the "high movers" for another "separate version" havent tested with exotics though...this would be a nice try for someone
Hi Bro! Haven't heard you in a while...
Yes, slowly but sure, I'm adding another pairs onboard including the exotic ones. Next is for AUDNZD to add.

My only constraint is that my broker only allow max 200 pending and open orders at the same time. So, to me it's somewhat uncomfortable.
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  • #3,594
  • Jun 12, 2016 8:20pm Jun 12, 2016 8:20pm
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} {quote} Great job, my dear friend!!! Exactly that sexy music from STester I wanted to hear. I think - now is (y)our baby grew up and ready for (life)LIVE.
Thanks for the kind words!

I still need a few more years to proof. To me until reaching this point is still not enough, while it has to be much more stable and stable in future. There are a lot more combinations to explore right now, and I am looking forward to it.
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  • #3,595
  • Jun 12, 2016 8:36pm Jun 12, 2016 8:36pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Hi Bro! Haven't heard you in a while... Yes, slowly but sure, I'm adding another pairs onboard including the exotic ones. Next is for AUDNZD to add. My only constraint is that my broker only allow max 200 pending and open orders at the same time. So, to me it's somewhat uncomfortable.
well i am "watching you"....i am here there every f@#king everywhere hahaha

well audnzd is not considered (i believe) exotic but rather USDMXN USDRUB etc
  • #3,596
  • Jun 12, 2016 8:47pm Jun 12, 2016 8:47pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} well i am "watching you"....i am here there every f@#king everywhere hahaha well audnzd is not considered (i believe) exotic but rather USDMXN USDRUB etc
Silent but deadly...huh..? Stalking at me..

Well, I thought that before as well. I wasn't confident enough to play on USDRUB or MXN. The spread is too wide, but considerably okay since it's exotic pair. We'll see if I can find something with that pair.
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  • #3,597
  • Jun 13, 2016 2:01am Jun 13, 2016 2:01am
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  • #3,598
  • Edited Jun 14, 2016 7:31pm Jun 13, 2016 7:33pm | Edited Jun 14, 2016 7:31pm
Please do remember on June 23nd 00:00 GMT to stop ALL trading activities related to LIVE account. This is due to referendum on Brexit, to decide whether to stay on EU or otherwise. Here's annonucement from my broker.

"On June 23rd 2016, the United Kingdom will hold a referendum on Brexit, the countrys exiting the European Union (EU). Therefore, all currency pairs with the British Pound (GBP) might get more volatile, and, as a result, the liquidity might reduce significantly. RoboForex, following the regulators recommendations, makes changes in the conditions of trading these instruments in order to decrease risks for the Companys clients."

Then I'm going to start again on the next week as per usual.
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  • #3,599
  • Jun 14, 2016 2:04pm Jun 14, 2016 2:04pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
Please do remember on June 23nd 00:00 GMT to stop all trading activities related to LIVE account. This is due to referendum on Brexit, to decide whether to stay on EU or otherwise. Here's annonucement from my broker. "On June 23rd 2016, the United Kingdom will hold a referendum on Brexit, the countrys exiting the European Union (EU). Therefore, all currency pairs with the British Pound (GBP) might get more volatile, and, as a result, the liquidity might reduce significantly. RoboForex, following the regulators recommendations, makes changes in the...
i would recommend a few days earlier and also not only GBP crosses but EUR ones as well... (and CHF in case you trade them)

its going to be a bloodbath for the "euro-regionals" whatever the result is going to be
  • #3,600
  • Jun 14, 2016 7:32pm Jun 14, 2016 7:32pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} i would recommend a few days earlier and also not only GBP crosses but EUR ones as well... (and CHF in case you trade them) its going to be a bloodbath for the "euro-regionals" whatever the result is going to be
Yes, that's true, good advice. That's what I was trying to say.

Quoting radityo.ardi
Please do remember on June 23nd 00:00 GMT to stop ALL trading activities related to LIVE account. This is due to ....
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