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  • #2,741
  • Dec 10, 2015 2:44am Dec 10, 2015 2:44am
Quoting fx441282
{quote} its not ridiculous ,its normal.. when you trade forex from 2007 - you will know the point,what im trying to explain. you lose 800 pips on UJ . how will it take to recover your losing trade ??
I got you , but you did not get my idea.

EU moved 500 pips in 2008 NFP, moved 400 pips in BR last week.

Can you find there was a day EU moved so much pips without Explosive news?

from 2000-2015, no

Thats why Rad only trade EU, and I lost 800pips on U/J.
No one wants to be defeated~
  • #2,742
  • Dec 10, 2015 2:51am Dec 10, 2015 2:51am
Quoting fx441282
{quote} its not ridiculous ,its normal.. when you trade forex from 2007 - you will know the point,what im trying to explain. you lose 800 pips on UJ . how will it take to recover your losing trade ?? radit, have a good open positions, i believe he understand technical analysis he the one who switch on the ea. but is almost the same like manual trading, just open sell and pending order. and put TP it will be best if we can using technical analysis filter, to decide automatically when to activate the EA.
EU has 50% transaction volume on whole market, it can not be manipulated(100%).

That means each support or resistance can not be bypassed during no news time.

Lost 800pips on UJ was my mistake due to lack of exp. on each pair.
No one wants to be defeated~
  • #2,743
  • Dec 10, 2015 2:53am Dec 10, 2015 2:53am
hi radit, i saw your latest trade.

EUR/USD Sell 1.10131.10148 hr ago1.03-0.1%-$9-1
EUR/USD Sell 1.10061.10148 hr ago1.03-0.5%-$77-7
EUR/USD Sell 1.09981.10148 hr ago1.03-1.1%-$162-16
EUR/USD Sell 1.09901.10148 hr ago1.03-1.7%-$243-23
EUR/USD Sell 1.10431.10148 hr ago1.032.0%$29829

Return by Trade#

first averaging is 7-8 pips range , 990 - 998 - 1006 - 1013

and the last trade is 1013 to 1043 .. = 20 pips range

can you explain the trade, how to set this on EA ?
  • #2,744
  • Dec 10, 2015 2:58am Dec 10, 2015 2:58am
Quoting jonirrenicus
{quote} I got you , but you did not get my idea. EU moved 500 pips in 2008 NFP, moved 400 pips in BR last week. Can you find there was a day EU moved so much pips without Explosive news? from 2000-2015, no Thats why Rad only trade EU, and I lost 800pips on U/J.

please check again, i think you are confusing pips and point .

your UJ you only loss 80 pips ( which is normal, daily range )

EU last week move from 1.0550,1 - 1.0940,1 ( 5 decimals )

how much is it ?

eur 25 november, no news.., drop 140 pips ( 1400 pt ) later on we all know, ecb just cut deposit rate . ( this kind of news, you wont get it on forexfactory )



2008 forex market one day crash 800 pips ! and for aud or nzd 1600 pips


( example : if 1 standart lot eur/usd 1.01005,then 1 pip is 10 usd , then 500pips x 10 usd = 5.000 usd ) 1 pips is 10 points

please google your self.
  • #2,745
  • Dec 10, 2015 3:03am Dec 10, 2015 3:03am
Quoting fx441282
{quote} please check again, i think you are confusing pips and point . EU last week move from 1.0550,1 - 1.0940,1 ( 5 decimals ) how much is it ? 2008 forex market one day crash 800 pips ! ( example : if 1 standart lot eur/usd 1.01005,then 1 pip is 10 usd , then 500pips x 10 usd = 5.000 usd ) 1 pips is 10 points please google your self.

I'm talking about point on 4 decimals, that's not the matter.

Whatever 800 pips or 1800 pips, there was a warning " XXX news will be release" before it happened.

Do u understand now?
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  • #2,746
  • Dec 10, 2015 3:05am Dec 10, 2015 3:05am
Quoting jonirrenicus
{quote} I'm talking about point on 4 decimals, that's not the matter. Whatever 800 pips or 1800 pips, there was a warning " XXX news will be release" before it happened. Do u understand now?
brother.. do you ever trade 2008 -2011 ??
there is no forexfactory calender news that will tell you about this.

the big boy just suddenly drop it

please check 21 march and 24 august 2015, and tell me why ? there is no warning of xxx news will be release ..

the BIG BANK, trade forex using OPTION CONTRACT ( CALL / PUT ) when it expires.. there will be movement in market

to be honest our order, retail fx trader.. cannot move the market.

what im trying to say here. you cannot predict the future

its all about probability and good entry and exit . thats why people learn technical analysis
  • #2,747
  • Dec 10, 2015 3:15am Dec 10, 2015 3:15am
Quoting fx441282
{quote} brother.. do you ever trade 2008 -2011 ?? there is no forexfactory calender news that will tell you about this. the big boy just suddenly drop it please check 21 march and 24 august 2015, and tell me why ? there is no warning of xxx news will be release .. the BIG BANK, trade forex using OPTION CONTRACT ( CALL / PUT ) when it expires.. there will be movement in market to be honest our order, retail fx trader.. cannot move the market. what im trying to say here. you cannot predict the future its all about probability and good entry and exit...

There are not a threat to my system, just like i said before...trade after breakout

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  • #2,748
  • Dec 10, 2015 3:37am Dec 10, 2015 3:37am
I am not sure why the EA trade after the stop hour.
Please see the following trade made at 3am, this is odd...
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  • #2,749
  • Dec 10, 2015 3:51am Dec 10, 2015 3:51am
Quoting archishard
I am not sure why the EA trade after the stop hour. Please see the following trade made at 3am, this is odd... {image}

Hi,
what's your PC time zone? the 3am refer to which time zone?
  • #2,750
  • Edited 5:08am Dec 10, 2015 4:42am | Edited 5:08am
Quoting radityo.ardi
@ radityo
Hi mate!
I see your GTL yesterday night worked well even if EU started to trend after London Close, I just wanted to say to you that on my side I shifted the start hour 1 hour later to avoid to get trapped on the trend. Like already said many times, I prefer lose 1 cycle in a normal day but jump on later in a trending day... I got out earlier and less stress ahah.
I'm also keeping on with EU with a tighter grid and less hour exposed to the marked (18:00 - 21:00 GMT) and yesterday was like a perfect day ahah, it seemed that all the movements of the price was calculated to close 1 cycle after other.


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EDIT: in the image (EURUSD M1) I wrote Target = 0,5% but it's wrong, with target 0,5% and 14 cycles the return could not be over than 7%
The target in this "aggressive" set file is 0,7% (Target Multiplier = 0,007)

EURGBP with a tighter grid is also a gold mine, it gains less but it is also less stressful, due to the tighter range...

Quoting jonirrenicus
yesterday is my birthday
Happy birthday mate! May you have all the best!
Keep on posting, I like your approach and interested in knowing more...
  • #2,751
  • Dec 10, 2015 4:53am Dec 10, 2015 4:53am
Quoting happytrade38
{quote} Hi, what's your PC time zone? the 3am refer to which time zone?

I am in London and the server brokers is UTC +2
I was there when the EA closed the trades at 23:00 UTC 0 time.

Is very strange indeed
  • #2,752
  • Dec 10, 2015 6:46am Dec 10, 2015 6:46am
Quoting archishard
{quote} I am in London and the server brokers is UTC +2 I was there when the EA closed the trades at 23:00 UTC 0 time. Is very strange indeed

I was thinking... is it possible that my VPS lags or rebooted and then the EA restarted on a different ip address and so trade at 3am?

What VPS service are you using and do you think the one I am on (RoboForex VPS service) is reliable?
  • #2,753
  • Dec 10, 2015 7:50am Dec 10, 2015 7:50am
Quoting archishard
{quote} I was thinking... is it possible that my VPS lags or rebooted and then the EA restarted on a different ip address and so trade at 3am? What VPS service are you using and do you think the one I am on (RoboForex VPS service) is reliable?
Hi,
On your VPS click on start , click on control panel, click on date and time icon then set your country time and date then it will work.
  • #2,754
  • Dec 10, 2015 8:08am Dec 10, 2015 8:08am
LAst night EU is move up 160 pip and retrace back.100 pips.

And i m on the trade not willing to close it.
Maybe luck, it retrace and hit my Target profit.

7 Open Sell in loss, 12 Open sell in profit, total 19 Grid open.

So 50% pass the grid already TP. no martiangle yet with same lot size.

Maybe we can learn from this.

btw, this live account.

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  • #2,755
  • Dec 10, 2015 9:22am Dec 10, 2015 9:22am
Quoting braveh4rt
LAst night EU is move up 160 pip and retrace back.100 pips. And i m on the trade not willing to close it. Maybe luck, it retrace and hit my Target profit. 7 Open Sell in loss, 12 Open sell in profit, total 19 Grid open. So 50% pass the grid already TP. no martiangle yet with same lot size. Maybe we can learn from this. btw, this live account. {image}

Might ask what:
Trading time, grid step, Current Price Interval and Target multiplier?
  • #2,756
  • Edited Dec 11, 2015 12:58am Dec 10, 2015 9:36am | Edited Dec 11, 2015 12:58am
Quoting radityo.ardi
Anyway, that logic is exist since v1.7. "Force close all" on the Stop Time Action.
Ok but I'd like to distinguish between the Stop Time related to order placing from the Time related to order closing.

For instance Stop Time Action (for order placing) is 21 GMT (time at which pending orders will be deleted), but Closing Time (opened positions) is 6 GMT.

If I choose "Force close all" I think all orders will be closed @ 21 GMT and I don't want this.
  • #2,757
  • Dec 10, 2015 10:26am Dec 10, 2015 10:26am
This EA really needs some form of lot size increase within the individual run. Martingale. There are a thousand ways to do martingale but it if you are going to do counter-trend grid, you may as well do martingale!
  • #2,758
  • Dec 10, 2015 11:02am Dec 10, 2015 11:02am
Quoting michaelasks
This EA really needs some form of lot size increase within the individual run. Martingale. There are a thousand ways to do martingale but it if you are going to do counter-trend grid, you may as well do martingale!
Doesn't this increase the risk, that "we" don't want to increase.

You know, at least I don't want to risk more money every time target is not reached, cause I could get stuck.
A good strategy for trading is... the opposite of having a bad strategy.
  • #2,759
  • Dec 10, 2015 11:08am Dec 10, 2015 11:08am
Quoting PowerTrade
{quote} Doesn't this increase the risk, that "we" don't want to increase. You know, at least I don't want to risk more money every time target is not reached, cause I could get stuck.
actually no. it is in many ways safer. you are more likely to get stuck when the market does not retrace enough to close your grid. at least with a very gradual increase it keeps the closing power high as the market moves away. Martingale can be used very well when you know what you are doing.
  • #2,760
  • Dec 10, 2015 11:15am Dec 10, 2015 11:15am
Quoting radadiya
{quote} Its bad for me that I closed all trades in loss looking at trending market , If I would have waited one more hour it would have been breakeven!!!

Yes Kepp calm and carry on woke this morning everything came back into line small loss on two demos and still watching one more
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