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  • #41
  • Edited 7:28am Dec 4, 2015 7:15am | Edited 7:28am
BEHOLD...... I predict on 12/4/2015 at 8:30am EST the Angel Of Death will once again be upon us. Take heed, you have been warned....


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  • #42
  • Dec 4, 2015 1:02pm Dec 4, 2015 1:02pm
Quoting Bicarus
{quote} please dont make singaporeans look stupid.. nah mate aint supernatural. might be the porn you watch. porn's infamous for trojan horses. who knows. market makers and big money bought over the keylogs from the hackers and are explicitly targetting your trades. thats why a rule of thumb is to keep work and netflix and chill seperate on different computers
shut up idiot you make humans look stupid.
  • #43
  • Dec 4, 2015 1:15pm Dec 4, 2015 1:15pm
Quoting forex_fairy
{quote} I follow technical trading system why would i look at the calendar when they say it's not neccessary to?
If you trade base on technical analysis, its still important to look at upcoming events, because liquidity occurs at events and sessions. Technical analysis doesn't move the charts. Try to lower your leverage next time especially during events. 100+ pips move is normal, so if your account cant handle this move, then you are over-leveraging. Good luck to you next time.
The only winner is the one who survive the longest...
  • #44
  • Dec 4, 2015 2:01pm Dec 4, 2015 2:01pm
Sometimes it does seem like some supernatural power is after you, causing you to lose. Not so, of course, but I note that you took a loss at 180 pips, which is not a stop that I would allow to take me out and for the reasons you mention, namely, large sudden moves caused by celebrity blabber. If you have entered correctly according to the trend direction, you might consider weathering it out until things calm down and the long term trend resumes. I used to suffer such huge surprises too, until I decided to not listen too much to all the noise and advice of "experts". For example, lots of folks downgrade moving averages, MACD and such indicators because they are lagging. Personally I find them most useful, precisely because they depict elapsed history which suggests a continuing trend, if used correctly. To me it seems best to simply follow what the charts are telling me, while staying out of the market until the dubious celebs and experts have stopped their blabber. It always amazes me to notice how much nonsense is spouted by said experts, who really have no clue of what the future may hold, so they hedge their opinions by "If.....maybe.....it could be that... it would seem.....one can expect that....and on the other hand".
  • #45
  • Dec 4, 2015 2:43pm Dec 4, 2015 2:43pm
hallelujah .... Hahah this is outrageous
There is no royal road to anything.
  • #46
  • Dec 4, 2015 11:34pm Dec 4, 2015 11:34pm
your worst enemy in trading is your self, when those things happens you are getting emmotional
and that will make you trade badly, that is why, if you don't have discipline then this is what will happen.
then take a brake and cool down
Bulls are stupid Animals!especially when Im short!
  • #47
  • Dec 4, 2015 11:53pm Dec 4, 2015 11:53pm
Quoting Bicarus
{quote} please dont make singaporeans look stupid.. nah mate aint supernatural. might be the porn you watch. porn's infamous for trojan horses. who knows. market makers and big money bought over the keylogs from the hackers and are explicitly targetting your trades. thats why a rule of thumb is to keep work and netflix and chill seperate on different computers
that doesn't happen to small retail. hackers would only be interested in someone with power to move the market
Be hopeful in a winning position, and fearful in a losing position.
  • #48
  • Dec 4, 2015 11:56pm Dec 4, 2015 11:56pm
I think this is a troll thread because this guy is saying everyone else is stupid when it's clear he's the retard

so either he's a troll or full retard


i want to be nice to you but you are so ridiculous I cannot be

there's no supernatural power ruining your trades

you shorted EURGBP at MONTHLY SUPPORT... Double bottom
Be hopeful in a winning position, and fearful in a losing position.
  • #49
  • Dec 5, 2015 12:39am Dec 5, 2015 12:39am
Read "Trading in the Zone" by Mark Douglas. Everything you do in the market is *your* responsibility. Nothing is ever the market's fault; it only presents information for you to see and what you see depends on how much you've learned about what there is to see in the market. This book is excellent for learning how to acquire the mindset required to be a successful trader.
  • #50
  • Dec 5, 2015 1:55am Dec 5, 2015 1:55am
Quoting Rag2RichesFX
I think this is a troll thread because this guy is saying everyone else is stupid when it's clear he's the retard so either he's a troll or full retard i want to be nice to you but you are so ridiculous I cannot be there's no supernatural power ruining your trades you shorted EURGBP at MONTHLY SUPPORT... Double bottom
The trend was down so the herd sells ("Guru" says follow the trend). The herd loses. Always.
  • #51
  • Dec 5, 2015 2:00am Dec 5, 2015 2:00am
Quoting BMWtrader83
Read "Trading in the Zone" by Mark Douglas. Everything you do in the market is *your* responsibility. Nothing is ever the market's fault; it only presents information for you to see and what you see depends on how much you've learned about what there is to see in the market. This book is excellent for learning how to acquire the mindset required to be a successful trader.
Everything you do in the market is *your* responsibility.
I agree

it (the market) only presents information for you to see and what you see depends on how much you've learned about what there is to see in the market
I humbly disagree
The market is random, therefore trading results are random. What's essential is not what the market is doing; it's what "you" do with "your" results (it's the only "stable datum")
The market is a vessel filled with total nonsense. A chaotic mess that has no rhyme and no reason. Only "you" can make any sense of it knowing that the information that "you" believe is there is false information.
  • #52
  • Dec 5, 2015 3:55am Dec 5, 2015 3:55am
Quoting forex_fairy
{quote} shut up idiot you make humans look stupid.
Yo forex_fairy... I think you need to chill man. People will have good and bad things to say, and some just wanna have fun playing with your mind man!

post #63: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...29#post8624029
We err, and err, and err again, but less.
  • #53
  • Dec 5, 2015 10:08am Dec 5, 2015 10:08am
Quoting Rag2RichesFX
this is a troll thread
What he said +1
Learn, a forex trader must, unlearn and relearn he will.
  • #54
  • Dec 5, 2015 10:20am Dec 5, 2015 10:20am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} I humbly disagree The market is random, therefore trading results are random. What's essential is not what the market is doing; it's what "you" do with "your" results (it's the only "stable datum") The market is a vessel filled with total nonsense. A chaotic mess that has no rhyme and no reason. Only "you" can make any sense of it knowing that the information that "you" believe is there is false information.
Every market is an auction market, either passive or active. In a passive auction, the individual does not take part in an active negotiation process but selects from products offered at different prices which make up the range. In an active auction, participants negotiate the range. Whether the auction is passive or active, All markets auction or trend up and down in order to fulfill their purpose, to facilitate trade. In an auction, prices do not develop randomly, but rather to fulfill the purpose of the auction.

The purpose of any market is to facilitate trade. Lack of trade facilitation inevitably causes price to move. This price movement behavior is as true in the organized markets as it is in a grocery store or any other everyday market. Thus, price changes to satisfy the condition of the market and every price is a result of the condition of the market. The fact that price moves for a specific reason further precludes price from developing in a random manner.

Furthermore, prices are not statistically independent of each other. Price, in moving to satisfy the condition of the market, provides an informational flow. In other words markets must generate trade, and in doing so, prices fluctuate, generating information about where trade is being conducted and where it is not. This information is valuable to the market participant. But true randomness does not generate valuable information. In other words, in statistically random situations, knowledge of the present is not important for it conveys no advantage. Knowledge of the present structure of a market is important and does convey an advantage -a market cannot be a random walk.

In a futures market, the day's activity is structured: price moves because of the degree of each timeframe's participation at various levels of price. The ultimate structure of a futures market for one day depends on the activity level of the various groups. The market develops logically, as price fulfills the need of the market.

The assumption of "randomness and the efficient market hypothesis" assumes that the market - price movement over time -conveys no knowledge or information.

Those who understand the condition of the market (where price over time is building value) are conveyed an advantage from which they can profit whereas those who focus on prices against each other must assume randomness and no understanding.

J.Peter.Steidlmayer Markets and Market logic
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #55
  • Dec 5, 2015 11:04am Dec 5, 2015 11:04am
Dude, i am technical trader as well. However you should avoid either entering new position on news or exit the position before there is high impact news release, especially the ones which is coming from USD.

For your heads up look for Fed news about rate interest on 16.12.2015. STAY AWAY FROM NEWS on that day as it may just do the same move, because of speculations all over the world that expect Feds to raise the interest. Anyway if you trade that day, you may as well think of it as gambling on roulette table where you bet black or red and see where the ball lands.
  • #56
  • Dec 5, 2015 11:42am Dec 5, 2015 11:42am
Quoting forex_fairy
No joking. I do make in FX but what i make in a few days i can lose in a few hours. Take today for example. Euro and GBP rose so fast over 180 pips on some pairs and i was short on those pairs SL around 180pips and it got hit while when i make price rises typically say 20-40 pips in my favor before it retraces or totally reverses and i need to change my TP closer. I think i really am cursed. I feel that a supernatural being/power is making sure i lose.
Dear forex_fairy,
prior to trading,it's a must to activate your psihic protection.
Thats all.
  • #57
  • Dec 5, 2015 1:32pm Dec 5, 2015 1:32pm
Quoting forex_fairy
{quote} I follow technical trading system why would i look at the calendar when they say it's not neccessary to?
If you are a "technical trader" looking at the calendar is important just to see when to stay away from certain trades.
Lets just say your technical analysis says that the market is going up and everything points towards that yet there is some news that could completely ruin your analysis it's important for you to read that calendar and to either stay away from a trade you would lose money on or trade that news as a "fundamental trader".

If you see my quotes and you're wondering why I put that there here is the reason:
In my opinion there isn't such a thing as a technical or fundamental trader. I think every trader should know about both and keep both in mind.
  • #58
  • Dec 5, 2015 2:15pm Dec 5, 2015 2:15pm
Quoting mzvega
{quote} Every market is an auction market, either passive or active. In a passive auction, the individual does not take part in an active negotiation process but selects from products offered at different prices which make up the range. In an active auction, participants negotiate the range. Whether the auction is passive or active, All markets auction or trend up and down in order to fulfill their purpose, to facilitate trade. In an auction, prices do not develop randomly, but rather to fulfill the purpose of the auction. The purpose of any market...
Fine ... except Mr. Steidlemayer is wrong. (correct in theory, wrong in practice)

" Those who understand the condition of the market (where price over time is building value) are conveyed an advantage from which they can profit whereas those who focus on prices against each other must assume randomness and no understanding."

==>it's not possible to reliably distinguish between " price over time building value" or "randomness"
  • #59
  • Edited 4:48pm Dec 5, 2015 4:31pm | Edited 4:48pm
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Fine ... except Mr. Steidlemayer is wrong. (correct in theory, wrong in practice) " Those who understand the condition of the market (where price over time is building value) are conveyed an advantage from which they can profit whereas those who focus on prices against each other must assume randomness and no understanding." ==>it's not possible to reliably distinguish between " price over time building value" or "randomness"
It could very well be he's correct in theory, and you're "wrong" in your application.

"price over time building value", is "structure", there's nothing random about the "reality" in which Auction Markets operate.

You make my point...........

"Those who focus on prices against each other must assume randomness and no understanding."

Choosing to view the market "price to price" (linearly & 1 dimensionally i.e. bar charts, candlesticks) without changing your data into a 2 dimensional "price-time" format, is looking at the market through a narrow 1 dimensional lens. "Value" is a 2 dimensional variable, and cant be viewed through a 1 dimensional lens.

That's why "for you" it's not possible to reliably distinguish between "price over time building value" or "randomness"

We are both entitled to our opinions,

I just didn't want yours to be the only opinion out there..........

Good Luck & Happy Trading!
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #60
  • Last Post: Dec 6, 2015 1:30am Dec 6, 2015 1:30am
I do not believe on nay supernatural power for making loss. it is our weakness in trading that results in loss. Mostly people blame market or luck for loss they do not try to make them self skilled , they do not pay attention to risk management to avoid loss.
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