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  • #1,721
  • Oct 17, 2015 11:15am Oct 17, 2015 11:15am
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Did you managed to get to see in experts tab or journal tab, is there any errors? {image} or have you checked the global variable to stop the EA whether it is enabled (1) or disabled (0)? {image}
thanks for your hint bro. found the problem:
- because of dynamic lots, after some profit gain it tried to increase the 0.1 lots to 0.11 lots which is unable to do since the broker min lots is 0.1, so it must 0.2 next.

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solution= i'll adjust the dynamic lots or just turn it off.

thanks bro~
  • #1,722
  • Oct 17, 2015 11:31am Oct 17, 2015 11:31am
Quoting slianto
{quote} thanks for your hint bro. found the problem: - because of dynamic lots, after some profit gain it tried to increase the 0.1 lots to 0.11 lots which is unable to do since the broker min lots is 0.1, so it must 0.2 next. {image} solution= i'll adjust the dynamic lots or just turn it off. thanks bro~
interesting.
This is another point to improve. I'll note on that, will do the feature sometime. I'm still working on issue reported by churcut.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,723
  • Oct 17, 2015 11:49am Oct 17, 2015 11:49am
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} interesting. This is another point to improve. I'll note on that, will do the feature sometime. I'm still working on issue reported by churcut.
thanks man,
btw i curious about your gtlimiteurusd2.set,
let's say your original initial lots is 0.07 and TP is 15,
if i want to double the risk but with similar behavior then i need change both right?like initial lots 0.14 and TP 30 ?

and your set use no stop loss?
  • #1,724
  • Oct 17, 2015 12:27pm Oct 17, 2015 12:27pm
Quoting slianto
{quote} thanks man, btw i curious about your gtlimiteurusd2.set, let's say your original initial lots is 0.07 and TP is 15, if i want to double the risk but with similar behavior then i need change both right?like initial lots 0.14 and TP 30 ? and your set use no stop loss?
double the risk = double the lotsize and target profit.
Both you have to change.
My set got no stop loss.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,725
  • Oct 17, 2015 7:47pm Oct 17, 2015 7:47pm
Quoting Mrdj
{quote} It s depends i think on trending and ranged market. If EU will go almost straigh in trend wiyh small corects gtlimit will bring so many lose trades i think f e. 19.08 - 24.08. With my settings in that time I would have call margin at 80%.Next week I want try vertical line stop trading at time of important news with gtlimit and start trading with gtstop at this time.Yes slianto I also think that is crazy profit

as we both have similar setups (apart from lot exposure) i would like your opinion on have 2 X EURUSD grids running one on Limit and the other on Stop orders

do you believe having them run "continuously" like your trading hrs will be better than having a 0800-1700 stop orders and 1700-2300 (GMT +1) ?
  • #1,726
  • Edited 8:00pm Oct 17, 2015 7:49pm | Edited 8:00pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Let me try to help explaining it. LIMIT, you have to use if the market is ranging, which typically this happen when it starts near end hours of London time and ends at near end hours of New York time, and continuing until Australia time. Why choose LIMIT, because essentially LIMIT will be used when you want to place a pending order which you will expect market price will retract back. {image} If you notice (and this is common sense, but no one realized), people tend to avoid trading on the ranging market. They always look for trend, trend,...
thanks for the analytical example

so as i mentioned above to Mrdj do you think a mix would assist? also what do you think of running simultaneously multiple pairs at the same logic? ( stop orders during "datetime" and limit orders during evening to nighttime?)

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OFFTOPIC (i think)

XM.com doesnt produce so good results when i am running demos on them (now i have another 3 demo setups on them along with 2 other brokers..comparing)...

BUT they have this loyalty thing that the more lots you trade the more you can get "back" for trading the condition is that you dont withdraw even a "penny" after you use them...

so you can trade using the EA... accumulate enough and then withdraw and get back the amount withdrawn already using their loyalty bonus...

fictional example

trade with 100USD

after (lets say) a day you are at 200 USD

and you have generated enough loyalty bonus that will mean that you can use 100USD in credit whenever you want...

BEFORE you use them withdraw 100USD and then use the 100USD credit...so now you have 200 USD again

and so on (remember if you withdraw a penny you lose the credit)

also you can sign up with them via a cashback service and also get something on the "side" ;-) (be aware that if you have your account on a cashback IB...loyalty bonuses will work....but you will not get their deposit bonuses...which are similar to roboforex)

the issue is that :

a) the EA doesnt take in account the equity (but as you said is going to be fixed on v1.8)

b) for some weird reason which i dont understand i get the worse results on XM ... for example on my current demo spree XM results in avg 3% daily return at best when the others had 3% at worse...

can anyone explain this?
  • #1,727
  • Oct 17, 2015 9:28pm Oct 17, 2015 9:28pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} as we both have similar setups (apart from lot exposure) i would like your opinion on have 2 X EURUSD grids running one on Limit and the other on Stop orders do you believe having them run "continuously" like your trading hrs will be better than having a 0800-1700 stop orders and 1700-2300 (GMT +1) ?
You must be careful running 2 strategies at the same account.
Precisely you can't use my setting because it was meant for 1 whole account. If you want to use it for 2 different strategies, then lower the risk down would be at least the best option. What I mean like if you run GTLIMIT2, you need to set lot size and target (either dynamic or fixed) half of the current.

But ultimately, you need to observe how it behaves. Because though you set GTSTOP to stop at 17:00 and start GTLIMIT 17:00, this will produce overlapping trades. That means, there's a high chance at 17:00 or even 19:00 you'll still have GTSTOP and GTLIMIT active together at the same time.

Remember that those timings is to limiting the start of the new cycle.

However, you can "ask" EA to force close at 17:00, but that won't be the best option.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,728
  • Oct 17, 2015 10:13pm Oct 17, 2015 10:13pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} You must be careful running 2 strategies at the same account. Precisely you can't use my setting because it was meant for 1 whole account. If you want to use it for 2 different strategies, then lower the risk down would be at least the best option. What I mean like if you run GTLIMIT2, you need to set lot size and target (either dynamic or fixed) half of the current. But ultimately, you need to observe how it behaves. Because though you set GTSTOP to stop at 17:00 and start GTLIMIT 17:00, this will produce overlapping trades. That means,...
i understand what you mean

but still overlapping trades is not that bad as long as the money mgt is in place (of course you can never ben 100% that everything will be perfect)...

this needs a great deal of trial and error

i am testing running now (i have sent you a msg with my settings) a demo with many pairs running at the same account and i believe the money mgt issue can be handled (so far) lets see

radityo whats your best .set of limit and stop orders? i am going to give it a go and test it on another demo to see how this might work

we need to find a way to present our strategies more efficiently and see how we can improve them and also categorize them.... i am starting getting lost with the numerous strategies of mine...yours and not to mention everyone else here ... lol
  • #1,729
  • Oct 18, 2015 2:41pm Oct 18, 2015 2:41pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} as we both have similar setups (apart from lot exposure) i would like your opinion on have 2 X EURUSD grids running one on Limit and the other on Stop orders do you believe having them run "continuously" like your trading hrs will be better than having a 0800-1700 stop orders and 1700-2300 (GMT +1) ?
I wanted write the same as radityo.

Quoting JoshuaHope
{quote} Impressive results. I hope it works in the long run. Can you please update us how it works next week. Thank you. Best, Josh
Of course. Work together, like said KGP^, for better future
  • #1,730
  • Oct 18, 2015 2:48pm Oct 18, 2015 2:48pm
Quoting PowerTrade
Impressive Spreads really low
Thx radityo. I only changed settings according to my deposit, broker rules and my risk approval Low spread but I have commission:/
  • #1,731
  • Oct 18, 2015 8:05pm Oct 18, 2015 8:05pm
Quoting KGP
{quote} i understand what you mean but still overlapping trades is not that bad as long as the money mgt is in place (of course you can never ben 100% that everything will be perfect)... this needs a great deal of trial and error i am testing running now (i have sent you a msg with my settings) a demo with many pairs running at the same account and i believe the money mgt issue can be handled (so far) lets see radityo whats your best .set of limit and stop orders? i am going to give it a go and test it on another demo to see how this might work...
Yes, you can. I don't deny that.
As long as money management is in place, then no need to worry.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,732
  • Oct 18, 2015 8:10pm Oct 18, 2015 8:10pm
Quoting chucrut
{quote} Yeah, i totally understand your point and how it works. But the fact is that it happens to me that it closes not when reach target profit, for this i was asking to you... I have more than clear how works the close logic and i really appreciate all your effort trying to explain me everything. Try to take a look at this, with the GTLIMITEURUSD2 lot and TP multiplier cut by 2 it uses 0.02 for 3.98$ in my test account. It didn't reach the TP and it didn't went back to middle point, but it closed the cycle when the price went back to the price...
This issue is fixed now, in v1.8.
The fact that I was using buggy code in Live account is tempting me to convert this bug into "feature".... hahahaha.... (I'm now starting like an IT project manager).

I'll have another options for the bug, "Target Based OR Max Open Order in Profit".
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,733
  • Oct 18, 2015 8:24pm Oct 18, 2015 8:24pm
I think this week I'm gonna start testing GTLIMIT3 with LIVE account.
Remember that I had applied cents account, so I'll push it off with $1 -> $100. We'll see if we can tripled this $100 account within a month.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,734
  • Oct 18, 2015 9:47pm Oct 18, 2015 9:47pm
Quoting slianto
{quote} thanks for your hint bro. found the problem: - because of dynamic lots, after some profit gain it tried to increase the 0.1 lots to 0.11 lots which is unable to do since the broker min lots is 0.1, so it must 0.2 next. {image} solution= i'll adjust the dynamic lots or just turn it off. thanks bro~
This issue is not yet fixed, but I have changed the code to adjust lot step.
I'm not sure how to test it, is there any broker which has demo account with non-standard lot step?
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,735
  • Oct 18, 2015 10:00pm Oct 18, 2015 10:00pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} This issue is not yet fixed, but I have changed the code to adjust lot step. I'm not sure how to test it, is there any broker which has demo account with non-standard lot step?
i believe london capital group has and its easy to get a demo on them (through mt4 directly)



when do you expect to have v1.8 out? hope v1.9 doesnt go out very quickly i cant catch you up with demos man...
  • #1,736
  • Oct 18, 2015 10:23pm Oct 18, 2015 10:23pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Aaaahhhh... OK. Yes, some broker does give bonus as equity. Wait a sec... is your broker XM? I will add it on v1.8. Be patience... Typically balance would be safer. But I don't deny that this is a good option to have and less efforts.
Yes it is.

In fact, I get the bonus because of an internal transfer (I'm still 800 away from 1k, I know I'll reach it, remember).

And I wanted to ask:

Is there any software, that I could use to make drawings in MT4 or similar, so I can upload it here? I want to ask or suggest something for the EA. And I know I can be a mess if I write it
A good strategy for trading is... the opposite of having a bad strategy.
  • #1,737
  • Oct 18, 2015 10:53pm Oct 18, 2015 10:53pm
Quoting PowerTrade
{quote} Yes it is. In fact, I get the bonus because of an internal transfer (I'm still 800 away from 1k, I know I'll reach it, remember). And I wanted to ask: Is there any software, that I could use to make drawings in MT4 or similar, so I can upload it here? I want to ask or suggest something for the EA. And I know I can be a mess if I write it
Not sure, but I use http://draw.io most of the time.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,738
  • Oct 18, 2015 10:59pm Oct 18, 2015 10:59pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} This issue is not yet fixed, but I have changed the code to adjust lot step. I'm not sure how to test it, is there any broker which has demo account with non-standard lot step?
I tried that on MasterForex live-cent. but it have no demo that can entry on 0.1 lots min. like on their live-cent.
or I can help you to test it out on my live cent account.

I analyze your calculation that if the dynamic calculation found 0,1063 lot size it will round up to 0,11 or if the calculation result is 0,1040 it will round down to just 0,1 lots.

while the min lot size is 0,1 it cant put 0,11.
so maybe if "error" happened we can try to round the calculation like 0,11 result will rounded down to 0,1 and 0,15 will rounded up to 0,2.

what do you think?
  • #1,739
  • Oct 18, 2015 11:02pm Oct 18, 2015 11:02pm
Quoting slianto
{quote} I tried that on MasterForex live-cent. but it have no demo that can entry on 0.1 lots min. like on their live-cent. or I can help you to test it out on my live cent account. I analyze your calculation that if the dynamic calculation found 0,1063 lot size it will round up to 0,11 or if the calculation result is 0,1040 it will round down to just 0,1 lots. while the min lot size is 0,1 it cant put 0,11. so maybe if "error" happened we can try to round the calculation like 0,11 result will rounded down to 0,1 and 0,15 will rounded up to 0,2....
I got it coded already, it will read from the lot step (which is in your case will be 0.1 instead of 0.01). So, I will use mod operator,
Lot size will be = 0.11 - (0.11 mod 0.1) = 0.11 - 0.01 = 0.1
It will be rounded down.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #1,740
  • Oct 19, 2015 12:30am Oct 19, 2015 12:30am
I can't remember who requested this:
"one more Close Type by Target Based OR Middle Point OR Threshold".
That item is added in v1.8 now.

And now you can use in dynamic calculation with Equity (Lots, Target Profit, and Stop Loss). This item is also done. Go to the settings of the EA, you'll easily understand.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
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