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  • #41
  • Sep 24, 2015 11:23pm Sep 24, 2015 11:23pm
Do not get fooled by randomness guys , there is no important levels...... only noise(regardless of time frame). Stop looking for the holy grail. There are some potential clues here and there, like news events, option expiration times, the london fix..... central bank interventions and interest rates.......but nothing is reliable enough to give you 100% profit every time. UNLESS you have some inside information from reliable source( it's impossible to get anyway), the only hope for the retail guy to make some money is to learn how to ride the strongest waves and control the downside risk(cut losses). No secret magic formulas.....
  • #42
  • Sep 24, 2015 11:38pm Sep 24, 2015 11:38pm
Quoting artem_t
{quote} It's simple - first post of this thread. It asks a question - what most people don't see? For me it's a food for thought and I don't mind to spend some time trying to figure it out - even if I do not find anything. No, I don't know which level he exactly mentioned - I have only assumptions at the moment. Regards, Artem
What OP want you to read is the $88 million, not some random level he threw out there for suckers to find it.
  • #43
  • Edited Sep 25, 2015 12:19am Sep 24, 2015 11:39pm | Edited Sep 25, 2015 12:19am
Quoting alphaomega
there is no important levels......
Although I mostly agree with you, I can give you at least one important level - it's the current price and its relation to some reference point (which is personal). So it all depends of how we understand things and terms..


OP said: THIS level I am talking about is NEVER mentioned, questioned, discussed or even KNOWN in Forex circles.
If this is true - it's not what you called "secret magic". I guess it can be so obvious so nobody sees it. Just like air - not seeing it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Ok, I am out of this discussion for now as I am sure we understand each point of view now.

Best regards,
Artem
Let's go with the flow
  • #44
  • Sep 24, 2015 11:43pm Sep 24, 2015 11:43pm
Quoting alphaomega
Do not get fooled by randomness guys , there is no important levels...... only noise(regardless of time frame). Stop looking for the holy grail. There are some potential clues here and there, like news events, option expiration times, the london fix..... central bank interventions and interest rates.......but nothing is reliable enough to give you 100% profit every time. UNLESS you have some inside information from reliable source( it's impossible to get anyway), the only hope for the retail guy to make some money is to learn how to ride the strongest...
Amen!
  • #45
  • Edited Sep 25, 2015 5:10am Sep 24, 2015 11:43pm | Edited Sep 25, 2015 5:10am
Quoting artem_t
{quote} If he opens an explorer and will show that he can trade profitable - what does it give to anyone?
Then it will make us believe his claim and stop us from suspecting him from trying to selling something or just being an attention whore who wants to troll around.

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If we understand what is the level he is talking about - simply open a chart and see by yourself can it be used or no.
Not really, what he saw and said is just a theory. In this business, a theory must be tested first because we cannot predict the future. What he saw is just a pattern. If this pattern is absolutely correct as he claimed, he must be capable of applying the theory into a small account and show us the trade explorer. This is a practical business, everything must be shown in a trade explorer.

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So many negative posts again.
There are so many snake oil sellers in this business. Likewise, there are so many delusional persons who love to troll around. My rule is simple: IF YOU WANT TO TALK, SHOW A TRADE EXPLORER FIRST. IF YOU CANNOT PROVIDE AN EXPLORER TO BACK UP YOUR TALK, THEN SHUT UP!!

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If someone can give you some useful food for thought (not only in trading), it doesn't matter whether he is a millionaire, a writer, a SEO specialist, toilets cleaner or someone else.

Can you cite some 'useful food for thought' in his original post?

Here is the summary of what I read and understand from dancingphil's original post, and many other posts of his as well (although this posting style is not unique, Ive seen many other members in this forum with the same style):

1 - Hey guys, do you know the most important level of today chart?
2- Of course you dont, but I do and I will tease you up so take my bait. Trading may be hard but trolling is so easy.
3- But how can over 300000 people here cannot see what I see? Even though I was just a lowlife SEO freelancer years ago ( or maybe Im still one ). Of course, its because I have just awoken a dark, secret, almighty power within myself which I wasnt aware of years ago. Life was hard back then but now everything is so damn good.
4- And with the new power, I have made over $80 M from trading to prove that I know about that trading secret. You have to believe me because I said so and because Im a fvcking genius
5- And dont ask me for a trade explorer. Im too busy to enlighten my believers and the poor, stupid skeptics are not worthy to witness my god-like power. But you can just become a believer and join my private group on Skype so I could teach you how to become a millionaire like me. Just PM me and I will give you an invitation.

Sincerely yours,

DancingPhil
  • #46
  • Sep 24, 2015 11:45pm Sep 24, 2015 11:45pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} What OP want you to read is the $88 million, not some random level he threw out there for suckers to find it.
  • #47
  • Sep 24, 2015 11:48pm Sep 24, 2015 11:48pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} What OP want you to read is the $88 million, not some random level he threw out there for suckers to find it.
Skyway, perhaps, you are right. But I don't care about his millions. Why should I?
Even if it's only a BS, looking for something sometimes lead to find something even more interesting than that you was looking for.

Now, let's concentrate on trading, buddy

Have a nice day,

Artem
Let's go with the flow
  • #48
  • Sep 24, 2015 11:57pm Sep 24, 2015 11:57pm
Quoting brian.jer
{quote} Then it will make us believe his claim and stop us from suspecting him from trying to selling something or just being an attention whore who wants to troll around. {quote} Not really, what he saw and said is just a theory. In this business, a theory must be tested first because we cannot predict the future. What he saw is just a pattern. If this pattern is absolutely correct as he claimed, he must be capable of applying the theory into a small account and show us the trade explorer. This is a practical business, everything must be shown...
I got your point of view and even though I disagree with most of your allegations - I respect it, because you and everyone here have the rights to have a personal opinion.
I don't have a single reason to defend someone here, so I'd better shut up.

Have a nice day,
Artem
Let's go with the flow
  • #49
  • Sep 25, 2015 1:03am Sep 25, 2015 1:03am
Quoting dancingphil
NOT yesterday; what is the most important level on your chart TODAY? Buggered if I am going to tell you - yet it is real and new every day. This level that is relied upon by it seems EVERY Market Maker. This level returned to several times almost every day. I haven't traded in 13 months. I am still only worth my $88 million back then. I still only own that cash, less the $17,000,000 and change I paid to buy 12,400 ounces of gold at an average of $1,367 per. Yet I cannot understand why people haven't seen or understood the MOST IMPORTANT level on...
If what you say is true, you won't be dancing around here Mr. DancingPhil.
  • #50
  • Sep 25, 2015 2:34am Sep 25, 2015 2:34am
Quoting dancingphil
NOT yesterday; what is the most important level on your chart TODAY? With 350,000 members on Forex factory, surely not all can be complete idiots.
//----

no not all.... some of us are still incomplete.... just takes us longer to get there.... please don't hold that against us.....

importance is such a relative term, but for me, the 'most' important would be an unbreakable tie .... price and pivot.....
//----

and the only gold i own is on the trigger of a browning sweet 16 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2TRBu5Xnvs).....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #51
  • Sep 25, 2015 3:32am Sep 25, 2015 3:32am
Hi Phil,

this thing is very easy......if you think you found the most important Level to trade than tell us so everybody who wants can figure out if it works! If you don't want to show us your most important level than this thread is useless!!!!
  • #52
  • Sep 25, 2015 3:43am Sep 25, 2015 3:43am
the most important Level ............price!
  • #53
  • Sep 25, 2015 3:47am Sep 25, 2015 3:47am
It's only useless to you Matt, though the trolls feel their time has been well spent.

The usual dose of trolls came out to play; that of course was expected and SO predictable - serving as the constant reminder as to WHY no useful information should be shared here by those who succeed.

My thread here was born out of a discussion I had with my group on Skype. We spent an hour or so discussing why this level was so critically important to Market Makers, yet so UNDER-discussed in the world of humans talking Forex. We all agreed we need not share our knowing with the world of dickheads.

On the bright side of things, I got to add 2 new dickheads to my ignore list.

On the neutral side - line 2 of my opening post made it very clear I was NOT going to tell anyone about the MOST important level on every day's chart. That I bothered to open this thread should be reason enough for SMART people to want to know the answer, and for them to use the "pattern recognition" nature of the human intellect to find the answer.

"The Fox and the Grapes"

In the story, a fox sees some high-hanging grapes and wishes to eat them. When the fox is unable to think of a way to reach them, he decides that the grapes are probably not worth eating, with the justification the grapes probably are not ripe or that they are sour (hence the common phrase "sour grapes"). The moral that accompanies the story is "Any fool can despise what he can not get". This example follows a pattern: one desires something, finds it unattainable, and reduces one's dissonance by criticizing it.

Eg, Cognitive Dissonance is the state of an ignorant mind; it is NOT a way to refute what has been put forward. CD is an inability to step out of the darkness of ignorance, and it is a closed minded belief that the only knowable Universe is the one inside your own head. Not one of you 3 "men" put forward a single word to refute or discuss any single point that I made; such is your level of bliss. Name call me with viciousness as much as you want; your attacks only make me laugh.



Quoting mattkirby
Hi Phil, this thing is very easy......if you think you found the most important Level to trade than tell us so everybody who wants can figure out if it works! If you don't want to show us your most important level than this thread is useless!!!!
  • #54
  • Sep 25, 2015 3:58am Sep 25, 2015 3:58am
Quoting dancingphil
... "The Fox and the Grapes" In the story, a fox sees some high-hanging grapes and wishes to eat them. When the fox is unable to think of a way to reach them, he decides that the grapes are probably not worth eating, with the justification the grapes probably are not ripe or that they are sour (hence the common phrase "sour grapes"). The moral that accompanies the story is "Any fool can despise what he can not get". This example follows a pattern: one desires something, finds it unattainable, and reduces one's dissonance by criticizing it. .......
true story...

if You ask my today lvl on dax chart are highs of two last days
  • #55
  • Sep 25, 2015 4:07am Sep 25, 2015 4:07am
phil you're the most funny con artist i've ever seen...
  • #56
  • Sep 25, 2015 4:08am Sep 25, 2015 4:08am
Quoting dancingphil
It's only useless to you Matt, though the trolls feel their time has been well spent. The usual dose of trolls came out to play; that of course was expected and SO predictable - serving as the constant reminder as to WHY no useful information should be shared here by those who succeed. My thread here was born out of a discussion I had with my group on Skype. We spent an hour or so discussing why this level was so critically important to Market Makers, yet so UNDER-discussed in the world of humans talking Forex. We all agreed we need not share our...

So than what's the intention of your thread??? If you want to discuss your important line than you have to show it!!! If not, all what people can do here is shooting in the dark and waiste their time .......and that is useless from my point of view!!!
  • #57
  • Sep 25, 2015 4:10am Sep 25, 2015 4:10am
I know the most important level on daily chart, but I won't share it with you or anyone.
  • #58
  • Sep 25, 2015 4:43am Sep 25, 2015 4:43am
The level at which to enter a hedge.
  • #59
  • Sep 25, 2015 5:19am Sep 25, 2015 5:19am
Quoting Nabz
I know the most important level on daily chart, but I won't share it with you or anyone.
  • #60
  • Edited 7:16am Sep 25, 2015 5:42am | Edited 7:16am

The summary of dancingphil


Quoting dancingphil
With 350,000 members on Forex factory, surely not all can be complete idiots.

No one believes you or cares what you say. Please do not be mistaken by this, you sir are the only idiot out of the 350,000 members.

Quoting brian.jer
{quote} A trade explorer is worth a thousand words.

Yes indeed but dancingphil knows this cant happen. Why?
1. He doesnt have this type of money like I do (remember I am Bill Gates)
2. He cant produce a great result such as 500% on an explorer to save his life.
Quoting h96
{quote} Some people want to be admired by other people,

Your are absolutely right and because he is not being admired in his personal life he is very upset. I am sure he is over 40 years old and lives in his mothers basement in China.

The only thing he looks forward to is typing non sense on the forums and Wednesday nights because its mothers meatloaf night.

"Mom wheres the meatloaf!!!!!, Its Wednesday night. Can you bring it downstairs please, I'm busy playing video games and I'm on the fourth level and have the magic potion to defeat the boss!!! Man my life is great!!! This is what I call winning. I cant wait to go on Forex Factory and brag to everyone!!!!"

Quoting Gvc
{image} OMG......Phil the BS is back......

Yes he is. Everyone has been warned!!!
Quoting diceman555
{quote} look this guy could,nt give you a level if he drew it from a spirit level.it would be as wonky as his brain

100% agreed. And after walking away from the markets because he lost his micro account he is back trying to gain insight from everyone and has nothing real to share.
Quoting artem_t
{quote} If he opens an explorer and will show that he can trade profitable - what does it give to anyone?


Respect which he does not have. He is trying to get it and ppl believe him because he posted here many times and is considered a High Impact Member but doesnt mean he has any more insight then my 96 year old grandma.
Quoting skyway
{quote} What OP want you to read is the $88 million, not some random level he threw out there for suckers to find it.

Yes he is doing this because he has nothing else to do and is a troll at best. Wow you have $88 million dollars can I be part f your secret skype group. Hahahahha, what a joke.
Quoting brian.jer
{quote} Can you cite some 'useful food for thought' in his original post? Here is the summary of what I read and understand from dancingphil's original post, and many other posts of his as well (although this posting style is not unique, Ive seen many other members in this forum with the same style): 1 - Hey guys, do you know the most important level of today chart? 2- Of course you dont, but I do and I will tease you up so take my bait. Trading may be hard but trolling is so easy. 3- But how can over 300000 people here cannot see what I see? Even though I was just a lowlife SEO freelancer years ago ( or maybe Im still one ). Of course, its because I have just awoken a dark, secret, almighty power within myself which I wasnt aware of years ago. Life was hard back then but now everything is so damn good. 4- And with the new power, I have made over $80 M from trading to prove that I know about that trading secret. You have to believe me because I said so and because Im a fvcking genius 5- And dont ask me for a trade explorer. Im too busy to enlighten my believers and the poor, stupid skeptics are not worthy to witness my god-like power. But you can just become a believer and join my private group on Skype so I could teach you how to become a millionaire like me. Just PM me and I will give you an invitation. Sincerely yours, DancingPhil
Read the above statement by brian.jer, finally someone is making sense.

Quoting mattkirby
Hi Phil, this thing is very easy......if you think you found the most important Level to trade than tell us so everybody who wants can figure out if it works! If you don't want to show us your most important level than this thread is useless!!!!

Wont happen. He doesn't know. You are better asking a complete stranger such as my grandmother and you may get more insight.
Quoting pooyan2012
phil you're the most funny con artist i've ever seen...

Amen brother! Funny but sad at the same time. I feel sorry for him when I saw this thread.
Quoting mattkirby
{quote} So than what's the intention of your thread??? If you want to discuss your important line than you have to show it!!! If not, all what people can do here is shooting in the dark and waiste their time .......and that is useless from my point of view!!!

He has no intention. Just has a bunch of time to waste because he cant hold a real job. Hey look at me I made 88M dollars and I sit on the forums all day just to be a troll!!!
Quoting dancingphil
The usual dose of trolls came out to play; that of course was expected and SO predictable - serving as the constant reminder as to WHY no useful information should be shared here by those who succeed. My thread here was born out of a discussion I had with my group on Skype. We spent an hour or so discussing We all agreed we need not share our knowing with the world of dickheads. On the bright side of things, I got to add 2 new dickheads to my ignore list.
Quoting dancingphil
made it very clear I was NOT going to tell anyone about the MOST important...
Only you are the true troll!!! Great story.

Does it help when you type so BIG!!

Does that give you the respect you have been looking for your whole life. Are you mad because the kids didn't play with you at the playground? Do you need a hug buddy? You were the type of kid that poured his milk in the bowl first before the cereal weren't you phil.

Waiting for your response and to be on your ignore list. That is the greatest complement you could give me.
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