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  • #1,341
  • Sep 13, 2015 6:21pm Sep 13, 2015 6:21pm
Quoting Sawaddee
{quote} Hi Chucrut, Are you running live with following setup? Or any adjustment have made for better performance? Thanks. ============================================================================ My settings: RdzGridTraps 1.2 DateTimeType=0 DailyStartTime=07:00:00 DailyStopTime=14:00:00 StopTimeMode=1 OpenType=2 OrderOperation=0 OrderCountPerSide=4 RecreationCountPerSide=2 LimitOrdersCount=1 RecreationThreshold=140 GridStepPoints=70 CurrentPriceInterval=70 MagicNumber=8888 InitialLotsType=0 InitialLots=0.3 InitialLotsMult=0.0001 CommentInfo=...
Those one was my first settings when I discovered the EA.
You can find the last settings at post 1033.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...23#post8423323

The grid size is different because I calculate it in this way Target (in pips) + spread + some few points (10 - 15 to have room, I noted that with very fast move even if my target and cycle get closed only with an order the EA doesn't have the time to close all the order before next order in the grid gets hit. On the other side I don't want a wider grid to don't have useless space between the grid, to facilitate recovers)
Target for my eur/usd is 3.5 pips and my broker have avg spread to 8 points so grid size is for example 3.5 + 0.8 + 10 = 5.3
Lot size I calculated 0.01 for every 300 in the account or 0.01 for every 500 in the account. But I think I will switch to 0.01 for every 1000 to be more safty.
  • #1,342
  • Sep 13, 2015 8:40pm Sep 13, 2015 8:40pm
Quoting chucrut
{quote} Those one was my first settings when I discovered the EA. You can find the last settings at post 1033. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...23#post8423323 The grid size is different because I calculate it in this way Target (in pips) + spread + some few points (10 - 15 to have room, I noted that with very fast move even if my target and cycle get closed only with an order the EA doesn't have the time to close all the order before next order in the grid gets hit. On the other side I don't want a wider grid to don't...
Thank you for your reply.
  • #1,343
  • Sep 13, 2015 9:38pm Sep 13, 2015 9:38pm
http://prntscr.com/8g3398

and my set

http://prntscr.com/8g33f0


as you would see it should have create an initial set of recreational but it didnt...

on other times it does the initial set and in case other sets required (in case all the orders incl. the recreationals are "consumed" ) it doesnt take place...


am i doing something wrong?


i know i a PITA but trying to run extensive tests with various setups in order to find an ideal one... and the recreationals are a key part in this case
  • #1,344
  • Sep 14, 2015 1:36am Sep 14, 2015 1:36am
Hi everyone. Forgive my newbieness, I just download the EA with settings as explained in the image in page 1 (there are many more settings in the EA now but didnt touch it), now it opened some stop orders above and below current price. Is there anything else I have to do or it works alone?
  • #1,345
  • Sep 14, 2015 1:02pm Sep 14, 2015 1:02pm
Ok I tried this EA today with stop orders on eurusd and right now it made about +2% of account.
5 cycles have completed each gained about 0.5%
1 cycle is still running with 3 of the 4 orders triggered and trapped in between.
What I can't figure out is what happen when all the stop orders trigger? do the EA close all in loss? Do it open new orders to try to recover the 2 orders in the wrong side?
  • #1,346
  • Sep 15, 2015 8:20am Sep 15, 2015 8:20am
I have learnt over the years to stop trading too many pairs and just concentrate on 1 or 2.

I currently am running this EA on EU with stop orders. Has anyone tried it on GU with stop orders?
The spread is bigger I know but it seems to trend more often.
  • #1,347
  • Sep 15, 2015 12:19pm Sep 15, 2015 12:19pm
This is a great ea with great logic but sooner or later regardless of how much money you feed into your account it'll eat it all up and ultimately fail.

I have changed this logic of grid and made it into a risk/reward 1:2.60 situation with predetermined SL put into place to protect the balance. My initial findings were very promising on backrests. I don't really trust backtests other than just to see if the logic itself works and to see if the ea is doing what it's supposed to do.

Here is what I found.. it does not trade on weekends and stops trading Friday before the market closes. It will not swing trade the weekend either. I have SL set to $1 and profit to $2.60. It's not about how many times this ea is going to be right it's about making more money when you're right and lose less when you're wrong. The SL and TP keeps changing as the balance grows.

I'm going to be tweeking the set file a bit and then i'll share it here for the followers of the thread to live demo test it and possibly add their own spin on it to make it even better.

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  • #1,348
  • Sep 15, 2015 1:31pm Sep 15, 2015 1:31pm
Quoting cyberevil
This is a great ea with great logic but sooner or later regardless of how much money you feed into your account it'll eat it all up and ultimately fail. I have changed this logic of grid and made it into a risk/reward 1:2.60 situation with predetermined SL put into place to protect the balance. My initial findings were very promising on backrests. I don't really trust backtests other than just to see if the logic itself works and to see if the ea is doing what it's supposed to do. Here is what I found.. it does not trade on weekends and stops trading...
Chack that chart pls:
Until 2562 th trade you did nothing, than billionaire. Great, what it means?
- you have just fund a settings, which is over optimized for the latest part of the period of the KNOWN set of input data.
I have found me to a couple of systems like that. But with that settings if you change the curr pair, timeframe what happens? - for me was a wipe!

Try to find a settings which shows profit / loss on the early trades too and is not wiped with other curr pairs: Ranging market vs trending market.
I want to buy PATIENCE
  • #1,349
  • Sep 15, 2015 2:27pm Sep 15, 2015 2:27pm
It looks like nothing but up until 2552 they're all "micro" or small transactions. If you can call it that. This ea has Lot, TP, SL multipliers built into it which I have configured to start very low numbers. It starts at $500 account. This is the reason why you don't see much activity early on. Even though it's happening the way the graph is scaled makes it look like nothing is happening but its making money till 100k in smaller lots.

Here is the set file for you guys to tinker with, I have started this ea at different times, different months, and different weeks to see if it'll survive. So far it has not crashed and burnt but only live testing will show us the true colors. Even so if you flip a coin and place buy sell order using this risk/reward you'll still make money.

Those are my local times, you should change those to when the market opens for you locally and close it 3 or 4 hours before it closes for the week.

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  • #1,350
  • Sep 15, 2015 2:38pm Sep 15, 2015 2:38pm
cyberevil could you upload the EA file? Thanks
  • #1,351
  • Sep 15, 2015 2:52pm Sep 15, 2015 2:52pm
Quoting Mag357
cyberevil could you upload the EA file? Thanks
EA is on page one by the OP.
  • #1,352
  • Sep 15, 2015 3:01pm Sep 15, 2015 3:01pm
Quoting cyberevil
{quote} EA is on page one by the OP.
I checked in EA properties but couldn't find the same settings
Where do I find that input settings window you posted?
  • #1,353
  • Sep 15, 2015 3:26pm Sep 15, 2015 3:26pm
Download RdzGridTraps v1.7 from first page, that's the version I'm using. The input setting tap is only used for testing using strategies tester.

You have lots to learn on how to run EAs on MT4 my new friend. Please make use of Google.
  • #1,354
  • Sep 15, 2015 7:30pm Sep 15, 2015 7:30pm
Hi, cyberevil! Thanks for your attachments.
You talk about 1$ SL and 2.60$ TP, but I see in your settings that you have 0.1$ TP and 1$ SL, initial for 500$.
What's the reason? Have you modified your settings before attachment?
  • #1,355
  • Sep 15, 2015 10:21pm Sep 15, 2015 10:21pm
Quoting cyberevil
It looks like nothing but up until 2552 they're all "micro" or small transactions. If you can call it that. This ea has Lot, TP, SL multipliers built into it which I have configured to start very low numbers. It starts at $500 account. This is the reason why you don't see much activity early on. Even though it's happening the way the graph is scaled makes it look like nothing is happening but its making money till 100k in smaller lots. Here is the set file for you guys to tinker with, I have started this ea at different times, different months,...

is it possible to provide/upload the .set file that you have ?
  • #1,356
  • Sep 16, 2015 6:16am Sep 16, 2015 6:16am
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Please test it on your demo account first. I mean, literally all "conditions", such as EA closed suddenly, then start again. I got no issues until now, restarting EA and all, probably I was always playing "safe" by doing these: Every start of the EA, back up the setting by saving it to local file. In case MT4 is closed / crashed or down and we have to start again once, run again by loading the same setting. V1.6 or lower are the one which still buggy if MT4 unexpectedly closed, while the latest one with v1.7 (the latest one in the codeplex)...
Hey Radyito.ardi,
I love the ea, but it does get into a problem trade eventually. What i am saying i am sure you already know. The problem is that, if your PA goes bear, for 3 sells and does not close, then turns bull, it will take about 9 bull trades(of course you can mod the price interval, grid, but this is an example) in order to close it. If 9 is not reached and PA turns bear, more problems and you are now trapped for days possibly in a cycle. The longer the levels go, the higher the chance you will need ridiculous moves to get out. I was wondering, would it be possible to set a martingale in the event PA turns sides. Example, your trade goes 3 bear with .01, then turns bull. At the 0 line, the bull stop orders go to .02. You should be able to close with 4-5 levels in bull. If the PA does not hit those levels, and goes back, then buy stop orders should go to .04. I think this is an idea worth exploring.
Second idea, would it be possible to invert the grid's buy/sells, then run one regular version with such version on the same account. Thoughts?
Best, Josh
  • #1,357
  • Sep 16, 2015 6:35am Sep 16, 2015 6:35am
Hi Josh,

Some good ideas there, hopefully radityo will reply sometime.

Until then regarding your second idea of inverting the buys and sells.

If I have understood you correctly you can open one EU chart, attach the EA to open stop orders, open another EU chart, attach the EA and set it to open limit orders.
I used to do something similar with the Blessing3 EA.
  • #1,358
  • Edited 7:13am Sep 16, 2015 6:49am | Edited 7:13am
Quoting normtold
Hi Josh, Some good ideas there, hopefully radityo will reply sometime. Until then regarding your second idea of inverting the buys and sells. If I have understood you correctly you can open one EU chart, attach the EA to open stop orders, open another EU chart, attach the EA and set it to open limit orders. I used to do something similar with the Blessing3 EA.
Hey normtold,
the idea is this - you set one ea regularly. It has buys above and sells bellow. You take another ea, you change grid so that sell is above and buy bellow. They have different magic numbers. It would be an interesting experiment. I have played a lot with blessing ea as well. :-)
EDIT- now that I think more of my brainstorm idea, i realize that the DD could kill you. But the first idea i still think is good.
  • #1,359
  • Sep 16, 2015 11:47am Sep 16, 2015 11:47am
Quoting cyberevil
This is a great ea with great logic but sooner or later regardless of how much money you feed into your account it'll eat it all up and ultimately fail. I have changed this logic of grid and made it into a risk/reward 1:2.60 situation with predetermined SL put into place to protect the balance. My initial findings were very promising on backrests. I don't really trust backtests other than just to see if the logic itself works and to see if the ea is doing what it's supposed to do. Here is what I found.. it does not trade on weekends and stops trading...
Honestly, this is the best contribution I have seen so far on this thread.
I had already given up on this EA due to the multiple failures I have seen on demo but with this sort of results it looks really encouraging.
Great post cyberevil. I will definitely give these settings a trial on a new demo account and report the progress.
What I like very much about these settings is the usage of SL which makes it safe on live account and the risk/reward ration is quite clever.
Please cyberevil keep updating us with any new development in your tweaking of the setups.
I am interested in following your steps.
Thank you.
  • #1,360
  • Sep 16, 2015 2:18pm Sep 16, 2015 2:18pm
Here the .set. I'm unable to attach the set file itself as it's not supported by this forum.

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