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  • #1,015,761
  • Aug 3, 2015 11:56am Aug 3, 2015 11:56am
Are you guys watching that SaP tanking?...2085 gonna get hit any sec. So does Oil.
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  • #1,015,762
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:10pm Aug 3, 2015 12:10pm
Quoting MissPips
{quote} Yes, of course you CAN have. (That's why they call it unpredictability.) Nonetheless, a market (any market) should, on average, be more predictable the more players and volume you get. I think it shows that they predictably lose more money when there's more of it to lose -i.e they lose more when the market is moving 20 pips an hour than when it's moving 5 pips an hour. (If you give a car to somebody who isn't a very good driver, are there more likely to be more and worse injuries whey they're going 20 mph or 65 mph?) Definitely agree. Friday...
I agree with what you're saying about overall increase in participation generating better flows. I was pointing out that the influx of high volume during Europe/NY cross can sometimes create unfavorable trading conditions.

There was a veteran pit trader who discussed this. (I'll see if I can locate the video) But one thing he mentioned is that the largest amount of money passes from weak holders to strong hands during the NY opening range.

Anyway, it's Monday after month end close, and August, so pretty quiet at the moment.
  • #1,015,763
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:11pm Aug 3, 2015 12:11pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Are you guys watching that SaP tanking?...2085 gonna get hit any sec. So does Oil.
OIL is tanking... hopefully we will see some retracement. Short from 47.29, but would like to top up.
  • #1,015,764
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:15pm Aug 3, 2015 12:15pm
Quoting gatorinla
no evidence to prove this atm. not sure if we get a pre nfp pump or not.. 1038/47 may be a place to consider a short.. i dont see anything st bullish to cause a bounce. i set a what if entry sometimes instead of chasing. it just tested 0969.. 0964 is a s/r. going to 1038 is not stretch before a drop. at least its a better price then where it sits atm.. if one wants to short, but not at support at 0964. atm 1038 is about the same as 1002 was friday at highs.
still no evidence of anything bullish. a new 0988 high (day), with a 0983 close above. may be enough to set up 1021 test and if it allows 1038 i will be looking with some R at 1047. its nfp week so its normal to have a pump (will it? i dont claim to know).. 1135 not closed above would still be bearish.. higher is 1209.. i dont see anything to make me long.. its free to let the bait come to you, and not extend energy chasing it.. i am still holding higher shorts, in anticipation of 0786/0774... a possible bounce at 0774ish... and that bounce may return us back to 1122/44.. if we drop lower (today), i will lower 1038. until its free to wait.. looks like typical pre nfp drift so far.
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  • #1,015,765
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:16pm Aug 3, 2015 12:16pm
Quoting Luther
the largest amount of money passes from weak holders to strong hands during the NY opening range.
Thats a logical assumption. Also during data volatility (FOMC, NFP and stuff). Imo most of these intraday settlements are between HFTs and retail is just a smaller part.
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  • #1,015,766
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:18pm Aug 3, 2015 12:18pm
Quoting Luther
{quote} I agree with what you're saying about overall increase in participation generating better flows. I was pointing out that the influx of high volume during Europe/NY cross can sometimes create unfavorable trading conditions. There was a veteran pit trader who discussed this. (I'll see if I can locate the video) But one thing he mentioned is that the largest amount of money passes from weak holders to strong hands during the NY opening range. Anyway, it's Monday after month end close, and August, so pretty quiet at the moment....
That would be great if you can. I use opening ranges a lot for my frame of reference.
  • #1,015,767
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:21pm Aug 3, 2015 12:21pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Are you guys watching that SaP tanking?...2085 gonna get hit any sec. So does Oil.
i tried to tell ya.. apple
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  • #1,015,768
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:26pm Aug 3, 2015 12:26pm
Quoting gatorinla
a lot of bullish talk about apple.. it did make a LL a few days back.. if it cant make a hh.. 108.76 should get a visit or 104.66 sentiment is very bullish on apple.. its in the 131.xx area atm. so if it drops, apple fans may get this unlikely entry.. but when they are dancing in the streets, a hangover follows. if not, its free to wait.apple value with china down, may be a little ambitious at these levels. its free to watch. at the same time uj near some R. apple is the big boy with google to watch. uj at R dont hurt.. one way i can get a higher...
oops apple slipped on a banana peel.. before and after.. mofu doing its thing.. go back to this date and see what all the pros were saying..
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...4&d=1437401489
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  • #1,015,769
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:31pm Aug 3, 2015 12:31pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i tried to tell ya.. apple {image}
I am listening, and short (...2108, 2096), just a little diversify
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  • #1,015,770
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:33pm Aug 3, 2015 12:33pm
Long pending at 1.09615 just slightly above the EMA 200. Think we might see a retracement back towards the 70 - 80's region.. risk at 602 where we saw some decent resistance earlier on and the whole day. I think we pivot there. Think we play here before the next LDN opening. Not looking to trade for too long though. Just feels about right for a slight bounce upwards.

If we manage to clear 1.1, then i think 1.1036 is on the cards before heading right on to test 1.1102. Big news week given NFP so i would like to think that we will play this range before any further moves southwards.

Love the 15 min on EJ alot more potential upside to downside risk so im taking it - risk at 35.65, 36 swing point 1. Break of 45 invalidates the whole set up.

a). Pivot at 1.09602
b) R1. 685
c). R2. 85 region
d). R3. 1.1


Downside break of the TL on 4 hr invalidates everything. It correspond with everything else which IMO is rare so im going to respect that level (1hr TL, 4hr TL, 30 min TL and 15min TL). It also corresponds with the 35.65 on the EJ so that's just basically my risk.

Good luck all.
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  • #1,015,771
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:45pm Aug 3, 2015 12:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} still no evidence of anything bullish. a new 0988 high (day), with a 0983 close above. may be enough to set up 1021 test and if it allows 1038 i will be looking with some R at 1047. its nfp week so its normal to have a pump (will it? i dont claim to know).. 1135 not closed above would still be bearish.. higher is 1209.. i dont see anything to make me long.. its free to let the bait come to you, and not extend energy chasing it.. i am still holding higher shorts, in anticipation of 0786/0774... a possible bounce at 0774ish... and that bounce...
It is just week beginning. This week I expect it to be bullish. Let us see.

It should not drop below 0900.
Intraday only.
  • #1,015,772
  • Aug 3, 2015 12:57pm Aug 3, 2015 12:57pm
Quoting navk
{quote} It is just week beginning. This week I expect it to be bullish. Let us see. It should not drop below 0900.
i wouldn't bet the farm.. cheap fuel has people buying new suv again. car building is better paying jobs along with demand for labor.. nfp may be a surprize
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  • #1,015,773
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:02pm Aug 3, 2015 1:02pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i wouldn't bet the farm.. cheap fuel has people buying new suv again. car building is better paying jobs along with demand for labor.. nfp may be a surprize
technicals with tell the story leading up this week, EU below 1.1 i see very bullish report for the USD, but again we will see.
The trend is your friend
  • #1,015,774
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:12pm Aug 3, 2015 1:12pm
Quoting Wrigs346
{quote} technicals with tell the story leading up this week, EU below 1.1 i see very bullish report for the USD, but again we will see.
like germany the u.s. has a large portion of gdp (high %) directly related to car production.. one of the largest industries in the united states is car related. sales are up 10% since last year. of that 10% a larger % is being produced in the u.s. that domestic % is growing. as manufacturers come to the reality cheaper energy cost is the place to build cars. techs are already pointing lower.. fundis do the same.. its just a slow moving ship/

. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhenry...pick-up-steam/
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  • #1,015,775
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:14pm Aug 3, 2015 1:14pm
Typical Monday. Just put in a pending position limit sell based on the Daily slightly down trend @ 1.1026. If I get it I get it. It's assuming it will try one more shot at the resistance. Doesn't look likely. If it doesn't work then I will do a buy at the bottom of the channel.
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  • #1,015,776
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:15pm Aug 3, 2015 1:15pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} like germany the u.s. has a large portion of gdp (high %) directly related to car production.. one of the largest industries in the united states is car related. sales are up 10% since last year. of that 10% a larger % is being produced in the u.s. that domestic % is growing. as manufacturers come to the reality cheaper energy cost is the place to build cars. . http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhenry...pick-up-steam/
I agree with you here. Still holding shorts from friday
The trend is your friend
  • #1,015,777
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:16pm Aug 3, 2015 1:16pm
Quoting aahmad29
{quote} Bullish target hit and 2 trades are closed in Net Profit. My new targets are: Bullish Target = 1.1150 Bearish Target = 1.0950 It does not matter where price go, I will track it like 007


Bearish target hit and 1 trade is closed in Net Profit.


But there are some other trades which are connected to this trade so I have to close those trades at breakeven.


My new targets are:

Breakeven Target = 1.1150 or 1.0850

Bullish Target = 1.1050

It does not matter where price go, I will track it like 007
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  • #1,015,778
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:26pm Aug 3, 2015 1:26pm
Quoting navk
{quote} It is just week beginning. This week I expect it to be bullish. Let us see. It should not drop below 0900.
Didn't you say that last week? At what point do you decide it's bearish...
  • #1,015,779
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:32pm Aug 3, 2015 1:32pm
Quoting aahmad29
{quote} Bearish target hit and 1 trade is closed in Net Profit. But there are some other trades which are connected to this trade so I have to close those trades at breakeven. My new targets are: Breakeven Target = 1.1150 or 1.0850 Bullish Target = 1.1050 It does not matter where price go, I will track it like 007 {image}
Interesting approach... seems to be working for you.
Taigen Profit This Month: na
  • #1,015,780
  • Aug 3, 2015 1:45pm Aug 3, 2015 1:45pm
EUR/USD consolidate today in a narrow range, but we hope tomorrow to see some change in the pair position.
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