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  • #881
  • Jul 25, 2015 8:04am Jul 25, 2015 8:04am
Quoting IgotAplan
{quote} Are you considering the close by threshold feature on the next update? I am running some back tests, foward test on demo accounts, and I am just waiting for this feature for confirmation and to share some nice setups for slower but still pretty good ROI with controlled risks. Thanks again
Apparently the result in backtest seems not promising...
It was started with $500, and seems not moving up (stays there) in any case.
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Probably need to change some other settings??? Let me try again...
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #882
  • Jul 25, 2015 3:56pm Jul 25, 2015 3:56pm
I would like to run some backtests with that feature. Did you upload the new version somewhere?

Thanks
  • #883
  • Jul 25, 2015 4:14pm Jul 25, 2015 4:14pm
Hi radityo.ardi!


Thank you for the thread and your generosity with the EA! I have been reading with great interest and have just managed to catch up to page 45!

Just a quick question (and not sure if I have missed it) - but is it possible to align the settings for GTSTOP so that it will work with a starting balance of $100?

Also, how is your live trading going with this system!

Best wishes!
  • #884
  • Jul 25, 2015 6:34pm Jul 25, 2015 6:34pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Can't really remember, but I think I've provided the feature to limit the count of orders created by the EA. If you set the number (max orders) to 0, or set Enable Max Order count limiter to false, it will allow the EA to open unlimited orders if you use any recreation Open Type. {image}
if
Enable Max Order Count Limiter : False
Maximum Order Count (total) : 0
but,
Open Type is : Dynamic Recreation by Threshold (like CHURCUT setting before)
is it unlimited order will working or not?

I'm still dont understand, what a meant of Threshold. Sorry if i miss explanation about Threshold before.
  • #885
  • Jul 25, 2015 10:04pm Jul 25, 2015 10:04pm
Quoting IgotAplan
I would like to run some backtests with that feature. Did you upload the new version somewhere? Thanks
not yet. Need to wrap properly. But if you insist, in codeplex now I've changed the folder structure. For the latest one that I'm using for development, you can find it under Branches > v1.7. It is a source code, not compiled.

Quoting Vlad13685
Hi radityo.ardi! Thank you for the thread and your generosity with the EA! I have been reading with great interest and have just managed to catch up to page 45! Just a quick question (and not sure if I have missed it) - but is it possible to align the settings for GTSTOP so that it will work with a starting balance of $100? Also, how is your live trading going with this system! Best wishes!
It is aligned already with Dynamic settting. But still the potential is big with only $100. You can try to find broker with cents account, which will give you 10000 cents ($1 = 100 cents). So it is like trading with $10000 but with amount of $100.

My live account is quite messy. Not the trading, but I withdrew-deposit-withdrew many times. So, I did stopped it this friday. Plan to start again next week (end of next week).

Quoting anzip
{quote} if Enable Max Order Count Limiter : False Maximum Order Count (total) : 0 but, Open Type is : Dynamic Recreation by Threshold (like CHURCUT setting before) is it unlimited order will working or not? I'm still dont understand, what a meant of Threshold. Sorry if i miss explanation about Threshold before.
it will work. Threshold is like a border line wherever it touches, then it will do something.
Max Order Count Limiter = false means if your setting is having set as Dynamic Recreation (either by Threshold or by All orders), there's no limitation on how much is the max order will be created. This considering that your account with your broker allows unlimited number of orders.
But if you have broker which only allow say 100 orders, then you need to set this as true, and set count as 100. So it will not create another order. This functionality will not have any impact if you set this EA 1 account to 1 EA. If it is error because it can't create order, it's fine.
But if you want to manage the account such that you want to start with 2 or more EAs at the same account, and you have max order limitations from your broker, then you would need to limit how much max order per EA running.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #886
  • Jul 25, 2015 10:48pm Jul 25, 2015 10:48pm
Thanks radityo, i did some backtests and i have two impressions.

It looks very interesting. And it looks like it is not closing by target, only threshold. Can you check it please?

  • #887
  • Jul 25, 2015 11:01pm Jul 25, 2015 11:01pm
Quoting IgotAplan
Thanks radityo, i did some backtests and i have two impressions. It looks very interesting. And it looks like it is not closing by target, only threshold. Can you check it please?
my bad...
I've commited the changes to the branch.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #888
  • Jul 26, 2015 3:44am Jul 26, 2015 3:44am
hello kawan! haha. i am from malaysia as well!

btw have you checked my query about the stop loss with -0.1 setting? it seems like the ea auto close every order whenever i set a stoploss
  • #889
  • Jul 26, 2015 8:05am Jul 26, 2015 8:05am
Money Management

Hi! Would really like to know what everyone's thoughts are around money management for this EA?

As we are aware, there is always the potential of the account wiping at some point. Many systems behave like this, but this does not mean we cannot profit from it...

My thoughts are to initially double my account, and then safeguard my investment by withdrawing the initial deposit, and letting the remainder run. I will then look at withdrawing profits (or part profits) on a weekly basis and wait for the account to wipe. Once it wipes, I start the process again.

The trouble with this approach is that you lose out on compound gains... Is there better way to look at money management?

Regards,

Vlad
  • #890
  • Jul 26, 2015 9:04am Jul 26, 2015 9:04am
Quoting Vlad13685
Money Management Hi! Would really like to know what everyone's thoughts are around money management for this EA? As we are aware, there is always the potential of the account wiping at some point. Many systems behave like this, but this does not mean we cannot profit from it... My thoughts are to initially double my account, and then safeguard my investment by withdrawing the initial deposit, and letting the remainder run. I will then look at withdrawing profits (or part profits) on a weekly basis and wait for the account to wipe. Once it wipes,...
Hi,
I'm live since a week with this EA and it look promising, the account is up 8%.
My plan is to withdraw weekly 1/2 or 1/3 of the profits made during the week. This make slower the process of compound gains but at the same time can start to amortize the investment.
  • #891
  • Jul 26, 2015 10:50am Jul 26, 2015 10:50am
Quoting Vlad13685
Money Management Hi! Would really like to know what everyone's thoughts are around money management for this EA? As we are aware, there is always the potential of the account wiping at some point. Many systems behave like this, but this does not mean we cannot profit from it... My thoughts are to initially double my account, and then safeguard my investment by withdrawing the initial deposit, and letting the remainder run. I will then look at withdrawing profits (or part profits) on a weekly basis and wait for the account to wipe. Once it wipes,...
Vlad,
I think that is the only viable strategy at this point. Once it doubles, i will withdraw my initial investment, then take out 50% of the profits weekly or monthly.
If any of the forward tests survive 3 months+, only then would i consider a different approach.
Best, Josh
  • #892
  • Jul 26, 2015 11:45am Jul 26, 2015 11:45am
Radityo, thanks again for sharing your programing skills with us.
When i ask you the close by threshold i had this in mind.

It's only the first test. It need a lot better tune to increase profitability and risk controls. Time to run lots of back tests and test on demos for confirmation.

I set a few limits because market usually ranges, that's when LO are profitable but the risk is when it breaks and trend up or down, than with using the few limits the EA can profit from breaks to. But a few times there are false breaks and quick direction changes. This one are the dangerous of the hole system. Stoping on threshold can stop the EA when this happens and the risks were about to became to big and the account could blow. I don't like this idea of blow possibility, rather take a small lost and stay alive to trade again even if represents lower ROI.

On the backtest attached you can see that there were a few stops at threshold, two big lost ones and a few other very small, but even the bigger lost the EA recover and in the long run it shows profitable.

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File Type: pdf Strategy Tester_ RdzGridTraps.pdf   3.4 MB | 550 downloads
  • #893
  • Jul 26, 2015 12:05pm Jul 26, 2015 12:05pm
What's the cause of this recent drawdown?
  • #894
  • Jul 26, 2015 8:25pm Jul 26, 2015 8:25pm
hmm...is tickmill demo offline?

no connection...
  • #895
  • Jul 26, 2015 8:53pm Jul 26, 2015 8:53pm
Quoting hewtwok
hmm...is tickmill demo offline? no connection...
Looks like their entire demo server is down. I can only hope such things dont happen on real accounts too often as it would be a recipe for disaster.
Best, Josh
  • #896
  • Jul 26, 2015 9:43pm Jul 26, 2015 9:43pm
Quoting hewtwok
hmm...is tickmill demo offline? no connection...
I cant login demo either. Does anyone with VPS cant login to??
  • #897
  • Jul 26, 2015 10:06pm Jul 26, 2015 10:06pm
Quoting dearest
{quote} I cant login demo either. Does anyone with VPS cant login to??
Can't log on to Tickmill from my VPS either
  • #898
  • Jul 26, 2015 10:08pm Jul 26, 2015 10:08pm
Quote
chucrut
Hi,
I'm live since a week with this EA and it look promising, the account is up 8%.
My plan is to withdraw weekly 1/2 or 1/3 of the profits made during the week. This make slower the process of compound gains but at the same time can start to amortize the investment.

Quote
JoshuaHope
Vlad,
I think that is the only viable strategy at this point. Once it doubles, i will withdraw my initial investment, then take out 50% of the profits weekly or monthly.
If any of the forward tests survive 3 months+, only then would i consider a different approach.
Best, Josh



Thanks for the feedback
  • #899
  • Jul 26, 2015 10:50pm Jul 26, 2015 10:50pm
Quoting hewtwok
hmm...is tickmill demo offline? no connection...
I have the same issue.
But tickmill live works well.
  • #900
  • Edited Jul 27, 2015 12:08am Jul 26, 2015 11:39pm | Edited Jul 27, 2015 12:08am
Quoting IgotAplan
Radityo, thanks again for sharing your programing skills with us. When i ask you the close by threshold i had this in mind. It's only the first test. It need a lot better tune to increase profitability and risk controls. Time to run lots of back tests and test on demos for confirmation. I set a few limits because market usually ranges, that's when LO are profitable but the risk is when it breaks and trend up or down, than with using the few limits the EA can profit from breaks to. But a few times there are false breaks and quick direction changes....
Cool result!
So, can you share the settings to us here? And probably let me test it under VPS and see for the next 1 month.
Would like to know how's the composition on limit and stop orders (how many limit, and how many stop orders).

Actually you're trying to pair this strategy with "few limit orders", am I right?

Quoting callmejack
hello kawan! haha. i am from malaysia as well! btw have you checked my query about the stop loss with -0.1 setting? it seems like the ea auto close every order whenever i set a stoploss
so far I don't see any problem with my testing. Can you share your set file? So I can precisely pin down the core issue?

Quoting hewtwok
hmm...is tickmill demo offline? no connection...
yes, mine too. not sure why is that.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
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