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  • #841
  • Jul 20, 2015 10:36am Jul 20, 2015 10:36am
Quoting IgotAplan
first tests on live account (micro) a few lessons learn: - slippage just kills every single strategy that is not EURUSD. not enough liquidity in other pairs. - even in EURUSD tight grids are messup by slippage. i will drop this approach either. - slippage is more important than spread. must look for a broker with less eheheh
Totally agree with you...
(which broker are you using?)
  • #842
  • Jul 20, 2015 10:56am Jul 20, 2015 10:56am
XM, i don't like it. But couldn't find a good broker with micro account and i don't want to run this EA yet on a larger account with ECN broker.

on my demo account last night i double it with the XAUUSD event, but had a 25% drop on the live (micro) hahahahahah
slippage and slow execution killed the strategy.

I will go back to wider grids strategy (testing also a few limit orders). Wider grids suffer less with slippage and slow execution.
And looking forward stop by threshold feature as a safety low down draw exit for a long term strategy.

Cheers
  • #843
  • Jul 20, 2015 2:58pm Jul 20, 2015 2:58pm
Hi everyone,

I am new in this post and I am going to try the system.
I have a question... I would like to try it using Multiply Lot size.
I see there in Inputs Parameters = Initial Lots Multiplier
I tried setup it = 1.2 but does not work as I expected.
In this example should be... 1st order 0.10, 2nd order 0.12 etc.
My question is... Is there this feature in this system?
If not, is it possible to add it?

Thank you!
  • #844
  • Jul 21, 2015 2:10am Jul 21, 2015 2:10am
I used this EA in Demo and run smoothly. But in live account,Sometimes grid's distance is not same as another. And this make some problem for live account. Broker : Ticmill, ECN.
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  • #845
  • Edited 3:45am Jul 21, 2015 2:28am | Edited 3:45am
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} I got the same result when backtesting. That is mainly because of the current orders are closed when reaches the end Date. You need to see on Journals whether it was closed due to Stop Out or normal closed at the end. If stop out, you need to find out or lower down your particular settings.

Does this system include reverse martingale strategy ?
Eudopo
  • #846
  • Jul 21, 2015 2:48am Jul 21, 2015 2:48am
update. the account is about 140% growth now. i think the key to this ea is you need to adjust your drawdawn effectively while letting your account grow in equity. Yes there will be losing trades but its not about single position, but basket trading. let the ea do the positions while the user adjust risk accordingly.
  • #847
  • Jul 21, 2015 4:06am Jul 21, 2015 4:06am
Quoting callmejack
update. the account is about 140% growth now. i think the key to this ea is you need to adjust your drawdawn effectively while letting your account grow in equity. Yes there will be losing trades but its not about single position, but basket trading. let the ea do the positions while the user adjust risk accordingly.
Could you share your setup please? Appreciate in advance.
  • #848
  • Jul 21, 2015 7:49am Jul 21, 2015 7:49am
Hello,

Can anyone tell me which is the weak spot of this EA? In which market conditions this fails? Or whatever might affect the performance of it.

Thanks a lot.
Great job!
  • #849
  • Jul 21, 2015 8:07am Jul 21, 2015 8:07am
I think all of these "slippage problems" can be solved by market orders with trying to open until it successes, instead of STOP and LIMIT orders, and .
What do you think about reprogramming, radityo.ardi?
  • #850
  • Jul 21, 2015 8:56am Jul 21, 2015 8:56am
Anyone doing this EA live? Please share
zolando
  • #851
  • Jul 21, 2015 11:19am Jul 21, 2015 11:19am
mmm.. while playing the ea with different settings, i can't seem to work the stoploss setting correctly.

i tried placing a dynamic stop loss based on balance, with a stop loss multiplier of -0.1, the ea just closes all my pending orders after opening them. is this a bug?
  • #852
  • Jul 21, 2015 11:12pm Jul 21, 2015 11:12pm
Quoting JoshuaHope
{quote} Thanks. Those are great results for 3 weeks. I am going to try out the gt500 first, then move on to my mods when i see how it behaves in the real market.
actually these setting are similar to gt500 set, the one radityo shared. but I do some minor modification on it, start cycle at london session, use less active trade and recreate.
and here's my latest trading result after weeks 4 :
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  • #853
  • Jul 22, 2015 1:08am Jul 22, 2015 1:08am
Quoting fxindikator
{quote} actually these setting are similar to gt500 set, the one radityo shared. but I do some minor modification on it, start cycle at london session, use less active trade and recreate. and here's my latest trading result after weeks 4 : {image}
Hi. Did you start the cycle only on london session and stop it at the end of session or you just keep going? Could you share your set files? I use default GTSTOP set on my demo and just started today.

Thanx in advance

Also thanx to Radityo Ardi for sharing this EA
  • #854
  • Jul 22, 2015 6:59am Jul 22, 2015 6:59am
i find the ea struggled on sideways trends a little. just had a thought. Could you maybe integrate a indicator which will help the ea when to buy and sell based on a daily or weekly trend. There is a commercial grid Es which uses macd indicator and here is a great video of a guy explaining the grid. I also like his comments on extending grid sizes on continuos long ter, Es trading...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IpRnidr8kgc
  • #855
  • Jul 22, 2015 9:53am Jul 22, 2015 9:53am
Hi Radityo,

how's your live testing doing?seems it's have been started again. nice to see that man! nice gain!
what set do you use?same live set as before?
  • #856
  • Jul 22, 2015 2:56pm Jul 22, 2015 2:56pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} I'm very sorry for your loss. But have you tested it on demo account? I think that is the most important factor. I'm not well aware of European Futures CFD, hence I can't give you any advice. But what I can tell you is, each pair in forex, each trading instrument, will have its own characteristics. We can't apply the same settings of EUR/USD to XAU/USD, and can't apply the same to Futures as well. Now, what we need to do, is to find the characteristics of the European Futures CFD, and find out how to beat them. Here's a little guide to find...

you absolutely right bro....from Johor
where are you from ??
if indonesia,i must talk like SERUMPUN BANGSA
  • #857
  • Jul 23, 2015 9:52am Jul 23, 2015 9:52am
new to this thread.
I have experience in grid trading before and I know that it will have large drawdown.
So what's different does this grid ea have?
  • #858
  • Jul 23, 2015 12:49pm Jul 23, 2015 12:49pm
No diference. Consistent small profits and huge down draw that will blow the account eventually.

But with good money management it's possible to make some money. I like to spread risks and regular withdraws.

For exemple, the GTSTOP account is running with 0.22 lots single grid now, but if radityo set 22 different grids setups with 0.01 lots each, the probability that all grids get stuck and blow at the same time is much lower. I know that not the case because it's a demo and he is just testing.

If it's a live he could also withdraw some of the profits from time to time, if the hole account blows it would be still be profitable. Some of the withdraw he spends, some he keep for when the account blow he can start over again without putting new money.

It's a great work from radityo but the EA alone is not profitable, the setups and how it's used that can be.
  • #859
  • Jul 23, 2015 1:01pm Jul 23, 2015 1:01pm
IgotAplan, do you think that chucruts settings uploaded a few weeks back would be safer?

Also, I want to run a account with a fixed lot size of .01 per $500, or .1 lot per $5000. This ratio should ultimately be able to handle a large amount of drawdown I think.
  • #860
  • Jul 23, 2015 1:25pm Jul 23, 2015 1:25pm
Only time will tell if chucruts settings are safer. On live account it's not a good idea decreasing grid to much even if you decrease lots as compensation. Slippage kills this EA and the tighter the grid, more often and significative slippage will happen. I had a real experience in this matter and it's a bid deal.

What i have experienced is that 0.01 / $500 is very risky. If it's some money you are affort to lose ok. You could have a good luck in the beguining of the jorney and withdraw inicial capital and some more to start over if necessary, and enjoy the ride while it last.

0.01 / $5000 is a lot safer and with patience the EA will cycle after a while, but the ROI will be little and still has the possibility to blow the account, it's only very small, understand that.

Right now i am concentrating in find the best way out of the grid when it became to risky. I ran some tests and there were a few grid setups that gave good ROI with only a few (2 or 3 times a year) dangerous situations. My will is to find a good way out of these trades with less down draws possible.
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