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  • #1,005,221
  • Jun 28, 2015 10:02pm Jun 28, 2015 10:02pm
Quoting edyraper
f..k , slept all sunday and gonna f..k my monday to , 5:30 atm , and will go to bed
Still awake
  • #1,005,222
  • Jun 28, 2015 10:12pm Jun 28, 2015 10:12pm
Quoting tashkent
i am among those few who left positions open for the weekend with no stop loss. if i lose money it would mean i do not understand a shit from those market manipulators game. no matter what the media says or the new are, the direction and the levels of the pair has been decided some time ago. everything else is a BIG NOISE, just a show for the naive. NO MATTER what the results of these Greece talks and negotiations are, they can't move the market, they serve only one purpose: explanation why the price has moved in that particular direction. All news,...
I've been curious what price movements are random and what are driven by market manipulation.
I surrendered my EURNZD shorts after more than 1,500 pips drawdown. Couldn't had believed that would happen, as I thought my entry price was reasonable.
GBPNZD is even worst, there are traders that held out at more than 3,000 pips drawdown, some accounts busted, of course.
This recent EURUSD swings are no big deal in comparison, ummm... so far.
I hope to find a strategy that avoids being slaughtered by market manipulators in 'any' market conditions.
When in doubt, HEDGE
  • #1,005,223
  • Jun 28, 2015 10:29pm Jun 28, 2015 10:29pm
Quoting AdelPC
{quote} I've been curious what price movements are random and what are driven by market manipulation. I surrendered my EURNZD shorts after more than 1,500 pips drawdown. Couldn't had believed that would happen, as I thought my entry price was reasonable. GBPNZD is even worst, there are traders that held out at more than 3,000 pips drawdown, some accounts busted, of course. This recent EURUSD swings are no big deal in comparison, ummm... so far. I hope to find a strategy that avoids being slaughtered by market manipulators in 'any' market conditions....
maybe if you work in a hedge fund, you will know, other way it is impossible to predict when this will happen xD

dont forget also that movement in EURCHF in january 15 ;D!
Perfecting your entry will increase your profits
  • #1,005,224
  • Jun 28, 2015 10:33pm Jun 28, 2015 10:33pm
I'm long at 1.1028
what should I do... will eur usd go up??? or should I close it at breakeven or minimum loss??.
  • #1,005,225
  • Jun 28, 2015 11:03pm Jun 28, 2015 11:03pm
Quoting AdelPC
{quote} I've been curious what price movements are random and what are driven by market manipulation. I surrendered my EURNZD shorts after more than 1,500 pips drawdown. Couldn't had believed that would happen, as I thought my entry price was reasonable. GBPNZD is even worst, there are traders that held out at more than 3,000 pips drawdown, some accounts busted, of course. This recent EURUSD swings are no big deal in comparison, ummm... so far. I hope to find a strategy that avoids being slaughtered by market manipulators in 'any' market conditions....
don't wait.. have a SL and just get stopped out.
if you make good entries most of the time.. you will make it back soon.
  • #1,005,226
  • Jun 28, 2015 11:14pm Jun 28, 2015 11:14pm
Hey, I know this is off-topic, but I think it's a pretty simple question. As I've mentioned in earlier comments, my broker just dumped the trading platform I had been using, and so now I'm having to learn MetaTrader 4. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I had never used it before. One issue I'm having is that it displays things in "points" rather than pips. While I realize a point is just 1/10 of a pip, and it's easy enough to calculate, it just bugs me. I'd REALLY like it to display in pips and fractions of pips, rather than points. But even when I asked a customer service rep, he said he knew of no way to change that. Can that be right? Seems VERY bizarre to me.
  • #1,005,227
  • Jun 28, 2015 11:19pm Jun 28, 2015 11:19pm
Thank you, fellas...
Waiting for London session with clenched fists to try new ways to trade.
When in doubt, HEDGE
  • #1,005,228
  • Edited 11:36pm Jun 28, 2015 11:26pm | Edited 11:36pm
Quoting Ratmach
Hey, I know this is off-topic, but I think it's a pretty simple question. As I've mentioned in earlier comments, my broker just dumped the trading platform I had been using, and so now I'm having to learn MetaTrader 4. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I had never used it before. One issue I'm having is that it displays things in "points" rather than pips. While I realize a point is just 1/10 of a pip, and it's easy enough to calculate, it just bugs me. I'd REALLY like it to display in pips and fractions of pips, rather than points. But even...
Right click at profit column then select as deposit currency instead of point
  • #1,005,229
  • Jun 28, 2015 11:45pm Jun 28, 2015 11:45pm
Quoting AdelPC
{quote} I've been curious what price movements are random and what are driven by market manipulation. I surrendered my EURNZD shorts after more than 1,500 pips drawdown. Couldn't had believed that would happen, as I thought my entry price was reasonable. GBPNZD is even worst, there are traders that held out at more than 3,000 pips drawdown, some accounts busted, of course. This recent EURUSD swings are no big deal in comparison, ummm... so far. I hope to find a strategy that avoids being slaughtered by market manipulators in 'any' market conditions....
i prefer to use the word random to express something which is almost impossible to predict. on the other side, in reality nothing is random, we just lack enough information/data to calculate the outcome. had we had all the information about the orders and any intentions of all players and had a system and a tool to calculate, there would not be anything random or chaotic.
market manipulation happens when there is a game changing fact/news/statement/release etc. is being expected and big money just plays it to position itself better before the fact is announced. other times it is just a game of order filling, which is pretty much unpredictable but still tradeable. but when there is a manipulation, most of the the time it kills the both sides only lucky few comes out winners and some of them are disillusioned thinking their reasoning was correct to take that specific trade.
As Above, So Below
  • #1,005,230
  • Jun 29, 2015 12:07am Jun 29, 2015 12:07am
Quoting micho
{quote} and how does that relate to the situation in syria? now suddenly everyone is sensible about what is happening? we had war in lebanon from 1975 until 1990, practically all my chilhood and teenage years were during the war. 1 LPB pound used to equal 2 USD back in the 70's now 1 USD is equal to 1500 LPB nobody gave a fuck about the whole situation here..............

I don't know about the Lebanese currency but I can guess that 1 LPB back in the 70's could buy you 10 loafs of bread and an average worker made 10 LPB?
But how much does an average worker make now? how much does 10 loafs of bread cost now?
It's not like if say someone who has $1000 US dollars can go to Lebanon and get 1000 x 1500= 1,500,000 LBP and with that amount he can buy 10 houses and 15 cars and a few shops, that 1500 000 will last you 5 days for just hotel and eating out, so it's all the same, makes no difference.
  • #1,005,231
  • Jun 29, 2015 12:29am Jun 29, 2015 12:29am
Quoting linda69
{quote} Right click at profit column then select as deposit currency instead of point
Hmmm... thanks, but when I do that on mine, it just changes it to dollar value (not pips). Also, in the measuring device (not sure what it's called, but when you click your scroll button you get crosshairs so you can measure distances on the chart) it displays distance in those stupid points (like 7.3 pips shows as "73").
  • #1,005,232
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:20am Jun 29, 2015 1:20am
Mrng All, very good run on Asia with Buy positions...Took profits when market turned back. I see a medium weak USD thus far. London and New York might have something to say today!
We err, and err, and err again, but less.
  • #1,005,233
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:21am Jun 29, 2015 1:21am
who is buying this b*tch !!! gonna lose alot!!!
  • #1,005,234
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:22am Jun 29, 2015 1:22am
a flag pattern made , falling will continue
  • #1,005,235
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:23am Jun 29, 2015 1:23am
it could not break the resistance 1.1040 , it could go down
  • #1,005,236
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:31am Jun 29, 2015 1:31am
might close the gap before further down.. hard to say really, but expect it
  • #1,005,237
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:32am Jun 29, 2015 1:32am
Quoting MoEb
who is buying this b*tch !!! gonna lose alot!!!
FF open. End of idle mode.
  • #1,005,238
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:32am Jun 29, 2015 1:32am
It's gambling now.

This thing could spike up ore down.

I stay out for the moment.
  • #1,005,239
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:35am Jun 29, 2015 1:35am
might reach 1.1193 max . got a resistance @ 1.1199
1.1193 good area to short.
good luck...
  • #1,005,240
  • Jun 29, 2015 1:38am Jun 29, 2015 1:38am
Quoting 2012mysterio
might close the gap before further down.. hard to say really, but expect it
when the gap is closed it will not go down any time soon
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
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