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  • #21
  • May 11, 2015 9:47pm May 11, 2015 9:47pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Sorry, I forgot to mention, the setting is for 5 digit broker, Tickmill Classic (spread usually between 1.3 to 2.1 pips).
for 4 digits broker the only variable that I need to change is these?
GridStepPoints=75 -> change to 7 or 8
CurrentPriceInterval=50 -> change to 5

and what TimeFrame do you recommend to use for the setting files attached?
  • #22
  • May 11, 2015 10:06pm May 11, 2015 10:06pm
Quoting slianto
{quote} for 4 digits broker the only variable that I need to change is these? GridStepPoints=75 -> change to 7 or 8 CurrentPriceInterval=50 -> change to 5 and what TimeFrame do you recommend to use for the setting files attached?
not related to a timeframe, so should be safe.
Yes, only that 2 settings.

do note that the idea of LIMIT orders comes when the market is lazy. This is best attached during sleepy time (for us) around 00:00 in the morning until 12:00 in the noon (Indonesian West Time).
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #23
  • May 11, 2015 10:35pm May 11, 2015 10:35pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Sorry, I forgot to mention, the setting is for 5 digit broker, Tickmill Classic (spread usually between 1.3 to 2.1 pips).
Hello how old are your attached Explorers cause my backtest shows only This ..With the right settings which you have posted
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  • #24
  • May 11, 2015 10:37pm May 11, 2015 10:37pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} not related to a timeframe, so should be safe. Yes, only that 2 settings. do note that the idea of LIMIT orders comes when the market is lazy. This is best attached during sleepy time (for us) around 00:00 in the morning until 12:00 in the noon (Indonesian West Time).
Ah I see Radityo, Just realize this EA based on interval and grid, so the entry is not based on TF..

So we choose one of STOP or LIMIT,
STOP orders works best on volatile market (London open- London close)
LIMIT order works best on lazy market

Am I right?

the best bet I think only use the STOP at London Open- Close..

or do you think it's impossible to combine both automatically?

IE. the setting could have more variable to configure that.

Order Operation: STOP and LIMIT (both used)
Limit Order start time xx:xx - xx:xx ( limit activated only during this hours )
Stop Order start time xx:xx - xx:xx ( stop activated only during this hours )

of course that time order will work if they're in range with main EA start time-stop time (at top of setting)

so the EA activated at main Start Time - Stop Time
then it filter the order operation (Stop/Limit/Both), and the Order Time.

Just a thought from me..

thanks Radityo!
  • #25
  • May 11, 2015 11:47pm May 11, 2015 11:47pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} Yes, you're correct.
Thanks Radityo.
How you take profit?
Do you move your "Current Price Range Grid" when the price is moving up and down, for example the But-Stop, Sell-Stop case?
  • #26
  • May 11, 2015 11:57pm May 11, 2015 11:57pm
Quoting TickJob
{quote} Thanks Radityo. How you take profit? Do you move your "Current Price Range Grid" when the price is moving up and down, for example the But-Stop, Sell-Stop case?
in the case of STOP orders, the Current Price Range will never be reached. So, will take based on the total profit.
Note that total profit is calculated based on the total profit, and commissions + swap.

Current Price Range Grid is good if we use LIMIT orders.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #27
  • May 12, 2015 6:16am May 12, 2015 6:16am
Radityo,

what is the differences in setting between GT 790 and the one in your Trade Explorer GT 1000?
  • #28
  • May 12, 2015 10:48pm May 12, 2015 10:48pm
Quoting slianto
Radityo, what is the differences in setting between GT 790 and the one in your Trade Explorer GT 1000?
The only difference is the starting lot, and take profit.
GT790 is 0.01, GT1000 0.02
GT790 is $5, GT1000 $10
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #29
  • May 13, 2015 8:31am May 13, 2015 8:31am
Unless I am missing something, the settings in the txt attached on the first page are not the same as on the screen shot provided. Which would be correct?

This looks interesting and I would like to start testing this. I have been following the other thread as well. Looks promising radityo.ardi. Thanks for your work.
  • #30
  • May 13, 2015 12:10pm May 13, 2015 12:10pm
Can you explain the parameters of the EA please radityo?
  • #31
  • May 13, 2015 10:49pm May 13, 2015 10:49pm
Date and Time base = date and time that needs to be considered, either Local Time, or Server Time.
Start Time = Start Time where this EA will start a new cycle
End Time = End Time of this EA to start a new cycle
So for those 3 parameters, if current time (based on Date and Time base) is between Start Time and End Time, then it will keep starting new cycle. 1 cycle is considered 1 set of orders until closed when the profit is reached. If already passes End Time and order are still opened (with set of open orders and pending orders), then EA will keep running until this current cycle is closed, BUT it will not create a new cycle after that.

Open Type = Fixed, Dynamic Recreation (All orders), Dynamic Recreation by threshold.

  1. Fixed = it will create a fixed number of order based on Order Count (each side).
  2. Dynamic Recreation (All Orders) = If ALL orders (both side, top and bottom) are already in Opened orders (not Pending orders), then it will add additional orders based on Recreation Count (each side).
  3. Dynamic Recreation by threshold = this is not yet implemented.

Order Operation = Stop Orders, Limit Orders, Few Limit Orders.

  1. Stop Orders = it will create you a STOP orders, BUY STOP on top, and SELL STOP on bottom.
  2. Limit Orders = it will create you a LIMIT orders, SELL LIMIT on top, and BUY LIMIT on bottom.
  3. Few Limit Orders = it will creat you a STOP orders, but few orders that is nearest to the current price are LIMIT orders. For example, Limit Orders Count is 5, and Order Count is 15. It will create you first 5 SELL LIMIT on top, and 5 BUY LIMIT on bottom. The rest which is 10 for each side, will be STOP orders (BUY STOP on top and SELL STOP on bottom), until all orders count is 15.

Order Count (Each side) = the count of order which will be created each side. 30 means: 30 for top and 30 for bottom (total 60).
Recreation Count (Each side) = if Open Type is Dynamic Recreation (All Orders), then when re-creating the orders, will use this count to fill up.
Limit Orders Count (for Few Limit Orders) = This is used only if Order Operation is Few Limit Orders.

Grid Step (Points) = is the interval between each order in points.
Current Price Interval = is the interval between the current price (either Bid or Ask) and the first nearest order.
Magic Number = you know, this is to identify the orders created by this EA.

Initial Lots Type = Fixed, Dynamic.
Initial Lots = if Initial Lots Type Fixed, then it will create all orders with this size. If set to 0.01, then all orders will be 0.01.
Initial Lots Multiplier = if Initial Lots Type is Dynamic, then it will create all orders with the size determined by multiplying current balance with this number. If your balance is 500, and this value is 0.001, all orders will be 0.5 lot size.

Target Type = Fixed, Dynamic.
Target Profit = If Target Type Fixed, then it will close the current cycle when reaches this amount of profit (fixed).
Target Profit Multiplier = If Target Type Dynamic, then it will close the current cycle when reaches the amount of profit which is determined by multiplying the current balance with this number. If your balance is 500, and this value is 0.01, then the current cycle will close when reaches $5 profit.
NOTE: Profit is calculated by calculating the profit of each order, Swap amount of each order, and Commission of each order.

Comment Info = The comment that you need to put on each order.

Close Type, Close Mode, and Count of Running EA, Check Corrupted = Please ignore the settings and don't try to change any settings of these 4.

If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #32
  • May 13, 2015 10:52pm May 13, 2015 10:52pm
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} Hello how old are your attached Explorers cause my backtest shows only This ..With the right settings which you have posted {image}
I got the same result when backtesting. That is mainly because of the current orders are closed when reaches the end Date. You need to see on Journals whether it was closed due to Stop Out or normal closed at the end. If stop out, you need to find out or lower down your particular settings.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #33
  • May 13, 2015 11:33pm May 13, 2015 11:33pm
Quoting radityo.ardi
{quote} I got the same result when backtesting. That is mainly because of the current orders are closed when reaches the end Date. You need to see on Journals whether it was closed due to Stop Out or normal closed at the end. If stop out, you need to find out or lower down your particular settings.
2015.05.14 08:25:58.046 2015.03.20 14:07 Tester: PrevBalance: 151.41, PrevPL: -40.06, PrevEquity 111.36, PrevMargin: 120.00, NewMargin: 120, FreeMargin: -8.64
2015.05.14 08:25:58.030 2015.03.20 14:07 Tester: not enough money for buy 0.02 EURUSD at 1.07271 sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000 [2015.03.20 14:07]
2015.05.14 08:25:43.649 2015.03.19 14:15 Tester: order #404, sell 0.02 EURUSD is opened at 1.06669
2015.05.14 08:25:43.633 2015.03.19 14:15 RdzGridTraps EURUSD,M1: open #404 sell stop 0.02 EURUSD at 1.06669 ok
2015.05.14 08:25:43.633 2015.03.19 14:15 RdzGridTraps EURUSD,M1: open #403 buy stop 0.02 EURUSD at 1.07271 ok
2015.05.14 08:25:43.633 2015.03.19 14:15 Tester: order #402, sell 0.02 EURUSD is opened at 1.06719
2015.05.14 08:25:42.899 2015.03.19 13:38 Tester: order #401, buy 0.02 EURUSD is opened at 1.07221
  • #34
  • May 13, 2015 11:45pm May 13, 2015 11:45pm
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} 2015.05.14 08:25:58.046 2015.03.20 14:07 Tester: PrevBalance: 151.41, PrevPL: -40.06, PrevEquity 111.36, PrevMargin: 120.00, NewMargin: 120, FreeMargin: -8.64 2015.05.14 08:25:58.030 2015.03.20 14:07 Tester: not enough money for buy 0.02 EURUSD at 1.07271 sl: 0.00000 tp: 0.00000 [2015.03.20 14:07] 2015.05.14 08:25:43.649 2015.03.19 14:15 Tester: order #404, sell 0.02 EURUSD is opened at 1.06669 2015.05.14 08:25:43.633 2015.03.19 14:15 RdzGridTraps EURUSD,M1: open #404 sell stop 0.02 EURUSD at 1.06669 ok 2015.05.14 08:25:43.633 2015.03.19...
Closed at STOP ,, so how do i change it ?i have not changed settings its all in dynamic and only stop orders .. Thanks
And even if i try to change something end is always the same. Thanks
  • #35
  • Edited 3:27am May 14, 2015 1:51am | Edited 3:27am
Quoting Petr.K
{quote} Closed at STOP ,, so how do i change it ?i have not changed settings its all in dynamic and only stop orders .. Thanks And even if i try to change something end is always the same. Thanks
Backtesting is always challenging for me. That's why I don't really like to use it and never consider it as proof that a system is working ok. There are some parameters that is actually does not represent the actual thing such as spread, or time, or probably some other thing.

Probably you can try forward testing for a week and see the result. Or you can still use backtest, just that try to find safest settings by lowering it down.


UPDATE: I just tried a simple backtest, using STOP orders, all works fine. This is same as GT1000.set.txt, but I changed the settings to STOP orders. And timing to 17:00:00 SGT - 21:00:00 SGT.
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I think it is not easy to backtest, coz backtest is not representing the actual environment. Mainly this is just for EA developer's reference whether their EA is working perfectly. But for actual result, I think you should consider forward testing, not backtest.

Forward testing with Demo, sometimes also comes with another challenge, like slippage. I found out that some brokers, do not have the same slippage when you try execute order in Demo and Live account. So, be careful.
It does happen to me when I'm about to implement tunnel martingale, all looks ok in demo. But when in live account (with same live account type), all are messed up and seems not working.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #36
  • May 14, 2015 4:49am May 14, 2015 4:49am
Hello guys.

I have set the EA up on a demo account using the GT1000 settings provided by radityo. However, no trades are being placed. At the top I read Active: no; Stop Next: no ; Start Time: Ok;

What have I done wrong?

P.S. My VPS is on UTC time if that info is needed.
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  • #37
  • May 14, 2015 9:21am May 14, 2015 9:21am
Hi Radityo,
I try this on demo forward testing too based on your GT1000.set.
So I just want to confirm something...

in your setting, you use LIMIT on low volatile market? (In Indonesian Western time I changed it to 1 hours before you, Start 00:00:00, Stop 13:59:59)
Am I doing it right?

and how does the performance of LIMIT compared of STOP order?have you tried it before?
or we can open 2 EURUSD chart, one with LIMIT, one with STOP?is this will produce better result?
  • #38
  • May 14, 2015 9:47am May 14, 2015 9:47am
Quoting slianto
Hi Radityo, I try this on demo forward testing too based on your GT1000.set. So I just want to confirm something... in your setting, you use LIMIT on low volatile market? (In Indonesian Western time I changed it to 1 hours before you, Start 00:00:00, Stop 13:59:59) Am I doing it right? and how does the performance of LIMIT compared of STOP order?have you tried it before? or we can open 2 EURUSD chart, one with LIMIT, one with STOP?is this will produce better result?
use these settings.
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  • #39
  • May 14, 2015 9:52am May 14, 2015 9:52am
Thanks for the EA Radityo.Ardi!

I am experimenting with 0.1 lot size and $10 TP on EURUSD and GBPJPY (in 'STOP' mode), and the $10 profits are coming regularly (for now on a demo account).

It functions almost like an ATM throwing out $10 (demo) bills at least once every hour...

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  • #40
  • May 14, 2015 10:00am May 14, 2015 10:00am
Quoting MasterGuru
Thanks for the EA Radityo.Ardi! I am experimenting with 0.1 lot size and $10 TP on EURUSD and GBPJPY (in 'STOP' mode), and the $10 profits are coming regularly (for now on a demo account). It functions almost like an ATM throwing out $10 (demo) bills at least once every hour... {image}
Are you still playing with the ATM holy grail mobile grid? :-) Nice ea, good work and thanks for sharing Radityo.Ardi.
Best, Josh
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