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  • #961,341
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:08pm Feb 18, 2015 2:08pm
Quoting mrcreosote
{quote} lol this is gator and his chums pondering the value of their gold nuggets....that was before the US government decided to rob them of their gold nuggets {image}
The guy in the lower left corner ... He hasn't changed one bit after ALL these years. Just look at his picture today: Unreal !
He's gotta let us in on the elixir he's using.
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  • #961,342
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:10pm Feb 18, 2015 2:10pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} so the job creating shale-oil areas do better pray for price to go above 75-80 USD per barrel soon again, shouldn't they? If not - party over for the next years?
...the shale expesnive investment was done with oil $130 !!! while Europe didnt see any alternative solution on time and Russia and friends (Venezuela, Nigeria, etc) just blowed the money in populist waste during the happy time. The Saudis and the other smarts oil rich gulf countries smartly bought half of Europe during this time to leverage in the long run.... the only losers here is W. Europe, Russia and the other populist oil rich countries ...

Sure price below $50 $/40 for too long will make some shale struggle ...but the main investment are already there, the fruits already hanging and the gains in the last 6 / 8 years already digested ....

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In any case, we rolled .... as suspected 1.138x held the roll leavin bulls intraday alive for one more try. Slightly Bullish close intraday. All shorts hands uncovered at these levels, as long as 1.142x holds, 1.154x (with extension 1.161x) is marginally open but a intraday crack with Greece confirmation can easily trigger a test of strength and stops to the topside.

No more room for anything for shorts is do or kill in the next couple sessions.

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #961,343
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:14pm Feb 18, 2015 2:14pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Mate, I think the point Sisse is trying to make, is loss of jobs in shale industries aint such a hevy deal compared to startups and massive companies like Google rulling the world. US is biggest importer of Oil in the world. Not exporter. Yeah, they gotta try to unlock themselves from beeing dependent of imports, but those Shale Oils in US are just under developement. Is like an investment in future, not like they wanna get heavy cash and export Oil. Moreover, slumping commodity prices are damaging those exporters of raw materials all @...
I'm with Infinitus! Some of the areas these guy want to mine are OUTSTANDING areas of natural beauty!!!!
Quote from his other link 'U.S. officials cut estimate of recoverable Monterey Shale oil by 96%'
Bastards the lot of them! Don't they realise we've done enough damage to the planet as it is?????
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #961,344
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:15pm Feb 18, 2015 2:15pm
Quoting evrynet
{quote} you were way above your leveragethis way you will lose everything
I wouldnt have lost if i had closed it before the news
  • #961,345
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:17pm Feb 18, 2015 2:17pm
Quoting pips4m3
Went long EUR at 1.13916 ...
Still holding. Moved SL to BE and TP to 1.14200
  • #961,346
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:19pm Feb 18, 2015 2:19pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Mate, I think the point Sisse is trying to make, is loss of jobs in shale industries aint such a hevy deal compared to startups and massive companies like Google rulling the world. US is biggest importer of Oil in the world. Not exporter. Yeah, they gotta try to unlock themselves from beeing dependent of imports, but those Shale Oils in US are just under developement. Is like an investment in future, not like they wanna get heavy cash and export Oil. Moreover, slumping commodity prices are damaging those exporters of raw materials all @...
Pretty much agree with you... interesting to see a decent exchange of ideas in this thread ...long time we haven't see one during so many pages...

In any case, GL managing your positions overnight ...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #961,347
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:20pm Feb 18, 2015 2:20pm
Quoting mrcreosote
Don't they realise we've done enough damage to the planet as it is?????
Hohohooo, thats question pointed in very wrong direction if you are enviromentalist. Because I am an economist. And I insist on fact best for our enviroment is scientific progress. I would just mine it all and plant those trees again, no problem here. We have good enough instruments to be able to mine resources without damaging nature.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #961,348
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:22pm Feb 18, 2015 2:22pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Pretty much agree with you... interesting to see a decent exchange of ideas in this thread ...long time we haven't see one during so many pages... In any case, GL managing your positions overnight ... sisse
Move forced me to drop few Eur/Gbs and also few EUs. Am BE, well, I like to stay BE, but actually wanted to be rich like now. Well, next time .
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #961,349
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:28pm Feb 18, 2015 2:28pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Hohohooo, thats question pointed in very wrong direction if you are enviromentalist. Because I am an economist. And I insist on fact best for our enviroment is scientific progress. I would just mine it all and plant those trees again, no problem here. We have good enough instruments to be able to mine resources without damaging nature.
Hey man, nobody likes scientific progress more than me! In fact I'm really looking forward to running my 'humanoid robot helper' off 1kw of energy for the whole day
Problem is as humans we're always 'screwing up'. See that massive explosion at California oil refinery earlier today? Problems of the Exxon Valdez 25 years on?
Anyway, I'll just nip over to the 'tree huggers' forum and do my bit there for a while
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
  • #961,350
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:35pm Feb 18, 2015 2:35pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} changed wording
Hear the music before the song is over ...
  • #961,351
  • Edited 2:49pm Feb 18, 2015 2:36pm | Edited 2:49pm
Quoting mrcreosote
{quote} Hey man, nobody likes scientific progress more than me! In fact I'm really looking forward to running my 'humanoid robot helper' off 1kw of energy for the whole day Problem is as humans we're always 'screwing up'.
Nono, is not a problem. Is very natural to screw up. In fact screwing up is kinda force of universe moving in pulses. Ha! Now thats a heavy mumbo right? And how bout quantum physics = anything can happen. Overall saying, there is literally nothing which can prevent you from screwing up.

But I always insist, contrary to what green brains are saying, people are part of nature. We are the nature, we are enviroment. I cant stop eating and farting, thus "destroying" my enviroment. Sorry, just cant help myself, and am strongly convinced mother nature likes me the way I am.

The point am trying to make: People need to live, nothing we can do about it. And the more they scientifically progress, the more economically, ecologically, efectively....whatever, they live. So, is a science what is protecting the enviroment most. And science costs cash.

So you gotta mine that coal, to get cash, to pay scientist, to protect enviroment.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #961,352
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:37pm Feb 18, 2015 2:37pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Hohohooo, thats question pointed in very wrong direction if you are enviromentalist. Because I am an economist. And I insist on fact best for our enviroment is scientific progress. I would just mine it all and plant those trees again, no problem here. We have good enough instruments to be able to mine resources without damaging nature.




and of course: fracking is the best idea of all, isn't it?

Or was your last sentence taken from the Grimm's story time?
  • #961,353
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:41pm Feb 18, 2015 2:41pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} and of course: fracking is the best idea of all, isn't it? Or was your last sentence taken from the Grimm's story time?
The fact we aint doing it doenst change the fact we can. These are very long term global issues. If you look at it, was not so long ago when your grandparents had to burn few trees to prevent freezing in winter.

As I have said: Mine it, get cash, pay scientist, protect it.

See the point is that scientist is a very useless guy untill economy is developed enough it can feed him. And easiest way for this to happen is to use resources.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #961,354
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:41pm Feb 18, 2015 2:41pm
Quoting globalmacro
{quote}
gm. Just see you here wanted to say hi,, cant sleep on the wine ,lol hic,,as it has been a good week so far,how are you, best regards b
  • #961,355
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:43pm Feb 18, 2015 2:43pm
Speaking of black gold ... shorts finally paying off ...

Crude never touched $55 as anticipated , triple-top play off $54 was literally golden.
Breakout of congestion zone and here we go...taking half off and letting the rest roll.
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  • #961,356
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:51pm Feb 18, 2015 2:51pm
Quoting elbert3
{quote} gm. Just see you here wanted to say hi,, cant sleep on the wine ,lol hic,,as it has been a good week so far,how are you, best regards b
Hi Billy , what's happening brother. E/U about half , crude rolling.
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  • #961,357
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:51pm Feb 18, 2015 2:51pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} The fact we aint doing it doenst change the fact we can. These are very long term global issues. If you look at it, was not so long ago when your grandparents had to burn few trees to prevent freezing in winter. As I have said: Mine it, get cash, pay scientist, protect it. See the point is that scientist is a very useless guy untill economy is developed enough it can feed him. And easiest way for this to happen is to use resources.

maybe it is more important to preserve habitat than to grow unreasonably at some point in time.

Maybe we have reached this point.....
  • #961,358
  • Feb 18, 2015 2:57pm Feb 18, 2015 2:57pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} The fact we aint doing it doenst change the fact we can. These are very long term global issues. If you look at it, was not so long ago when your grandparents had to burn few trees to prevent freezing in winter. As I have said: Mine it, get cash, pay scientist, protect it. See the point is that scientist is a very useless guy untill economy is developed enough it can feed him. And easiest way for this to happen is to use resources.

my, maybe a bit polemic, but sometimes the end justifies the means:

what did the Chinese do wrong? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...lution-problem


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  • Feb 18, 2015 2:58pm Feb 18, 2015 2:58pm
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  • Feb 18, 2015 3:00pm Feb 18, 2015 3:00pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...st-shale-matri

These Shale Companies Will File For Bankruptcy First: Goldman's "Best And Worst" Shale Matrix
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