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  • #13,301
  • Dec 4, 2014 8:42pm Dec 4, 2014 8:42pm
WOW, ppl here never learn. One was busy with H & S, the other with attacking the floor, maybe dreaming of 1.15,
when you must had been trading according to what "I" told you would happen(early 1.2020s) from day start when market was at 1.2035.

Do you know how many opportunities and big amount of money you lost with all that headache & nonsense, and posting on ff? when you must had been trading and making lot of money, by the way, a day to remember

Tomorrow market may target early 1.2010s while take profit targets still on 1.2030s(early more comfortable).
Distribute(always do that) a Long from around 1.2020 and another big one at early 1.2010s in case price didn't go that low to the latter, to not miss the whole rare chance longing here and exiting for least 10 pips sooner or later

Obviously EC bears are once again pressuring SNB for an intervention decision at next Thursday meeting.

I can't remember a recent time that EC was very near to the floor at SNB Meeting. Lets hope the best
Trade according to current market condition, not what you think would be.
  • #13,302
  • Dec 5, 2014 3:52am Dec 5, 2014 3:52am
How much u guys pay in swps for keeping a BUY EUR/CHF position. I am paying 2 $ per day per lot, which is a lot considering i own 257 lots. Any of y have lower swaps ?
  • #13,303
  • Dec 5, 2014 3:58am Dec 5, 2014 3:58am
Quoting Luigi111
How much u guys pay in swps for keeping a BUY EUR/CHF position. I am paying 2 $ per day per lot, which is a lot considering i own 257 lots. Any of y have lower swaps ?
u have 26 M position?
  • #13,304
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:04am Dec 5, 2014 4:04am
Quoting Luigi111
How much u guys pay in swps for keeping a BUY EUR/CHF position. I am paying 2 $ per day per lot, which is a lot considering i own 257 lots. Any of y have lower swaps ?
so you pay $514 per day? that's insane.
Which broker do you use?

I pay around $0.31 per lot though.
  • #13,305
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:11am Dec 5, 2014 4:11am
Quoting Luigi111
How much u guys pay in swps for keeping a BUY EUR/CHF position. I am paying 2 $ per day per lot, which is a lot considering i own 257 lots. Any of y have lower swaps ?
I am 15lot long and i pay 1,78 USD/day
  • #13,306
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:13am Dec 5, 2014 4:13am
Quoting Fana
{quote} I am 15lot long and i pay 1,78 USD/day

Here you can calculate any pair...
http://fxtrade.oanda.com/analysis/interest-calculator
  • #13,307
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:20am Dec 5, 2014 4:20am
The eurchf is probably the main topic of discussion in the industry right now. Higher swaps are a result of unpredictable market conditions, hence a lot of brokers have lifted swaps. I`m more concerned about any future sudden hikes in margin requirement, that happened for me in early sept -12. (Literally "robbing" me of my retirement trade that would have materialized days after).
Just hang in there Luigi.
  • #13,308
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:29am Dec 5, 2014 4:29am
Quoting fun_bucks
How to explain the negative correlation between eurusd & eurchf witnessed lately?
USD sellers prefer to buy CHF over EUR - it is a common pattern seen previously.
  • #13,309
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:34am Dec 5, 2014 4:34am
Quoting fun_bucks
The eurchf is probably the main topic of discussion in the industry right now. Higher swaps are a result of unpredictable market conditions, hence a lot of brokers have lifted swaps. I`m more concerned about any future sudden hikes in margin requirement, that happened for me in early sept -12. (Literally "robbing" me of my retirement trade that would have materialized days after). Just hang in there Luigi.
Yes that definitively true. Retail brokers wil get out of us from EUR/CHF longs. Time is playing against us. The nearer peg the higher chance to be kicked of due to adjustments in margin.
  • #13,310
  • Edited 4:58am Dec 5, 2014 4:47am | Edited 4:58am
good news this morning, snb fx reserve shows that almost no intervention the past month!
as for the swap, and fwd ec rates, I keep on reading that some individual are paying (and small, very expensive brokers charging) swap to maintain ec long position, while it might be insignificant on position below 100k eurchf, for those who are long more than that, I think they know that swap are negative for ec long. for ex: rfz4 (ec future dec 14) currently trades at 1.2021 and rfh5 (march 15) trades at 1.2018, so would earn 3 positive pips for ec long.. 6month otc fx fwd trades at 1.2011 while spot is at 1.2021, so that's 10 pips for ec long.
  • #13,311
  • Dec 5, 2014 4:59am Dec 5, 2014 4:59am
Quoting Luigi111
How much u guys pay in swps for keeping a BUY EUR/CHF position. I am paying 2 $ per day per lot, which is a lot considering i own 257 lots. Any of y have lower swaps ?
With this size you can't hold loosing positions. The only rational choice it to close and wait for an upward trend, that may allow you to buy lower and make money not just average.
  • #13,312
  • Dec 5, 2014 5:20am Dec 5, 2014 5:20am
Liteforex.com offers a possitive swap on long for EUR/CHF (+0.1%) for account type - "LITE" (wich works with cents,but it's the same,you should just divided by 100 and it will see the real value) ,you can check the forex calculator here:
http://www.liteforex.com/trading/forex-calculator/
  • #13,313
  • Dec 5, 2014 5:53am Dec 5, 2014 5:53am
Quoting maokun
{quote} so you pay $514 per day? that's insane. Which broker do you use? I pay around $0.31 per lot though.
What is your Broker ? Wht the leverage and spread?
  • #13,314
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:00am Dec 5, 2014 6:00am
Quoting Luigi111
{quote} What is your Broker ? Wht the leverage and spread?
fxcm
200:1
0.8 - 2.0 depend on the account type.
  • #13,315
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:34am Dec 5, 2014 6:34am
I wxpect EUR/CHF to go up some pips ( 3-10) if NFP number comes good, if number comes bad can go up up or down, dependes of a lot of factors, in that case the move is unpredictable. Wha tu guys think ? 50 minutes to the number come out
  • #13,316
  • Dec 5, 2014 8:04am Dec 5, 2014 8:04am
Happened just wha ti predicted. Exactly
  • #13,317
  • Edited 9:02am Dec 5, 2014 8:28am | Edited 9:02am
Interesting the sub-minute SL-buster spike to 1.2010 that came immediately before the numbers were released.
I wonder how many people have been hurt and scammed of 10 pips without remedy.

By that and later reduced movement we see how the institutional bears are still in full force and determined to:

1 - wipe out the most retail traders as possible
2 - trigger breakage of the floor to profit from SNB behavoir: surrender or intervention are both huge profit scenarios for them.

I keep scalping the pair and await for a larger movement.
  • #13,318
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:07am Dec 5, 2014 9:07am
lets hope its time for neg rates. 11 dec 15 is THE date
  • #13,319
  • Dec 5, 2014 11:27am Dec 5, 2014 11:27am
Quoting J.Clinton
WOW, ppl here never learn. One was busy with H & S, the other with attacking the floor, maybe dreaming of 1.15, when you must had been trading according to what "I" told you would happen(early 1.2020s) from day start when market was at 1.2035. Do you know how many opportunities and big amount of money you lost with all that headache & nonsense, and posting on ff? when you must had been trading and making lot of money, by the way, a day to remember Tomorrow market may target early 1.2010s while take profit targets...
Lol, English is not your first language, but your reading comprehension is very poor lol
  • #13,320
  • Dec 6, 2014 6:19am Dec 6, 2014 6:19am
Quoting Caa
lets hope its time for neg rates. 11 dec 15 is THE date
I hope you mean 11 dec 14, else -ve Swap will eat away all profits before that time
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