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  • #13,161
  • Nov 26, 2014 6:45am Nov 26, 2014 6:45am
any broker increase margin for EURCHF. i have no any email from my broker.

i want to know are broker increasing their margin requirment for this pair untill refreendum outcome.
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  • #13,162
  • Nov 26, 2014 7:48am Nov 26, 2014 7:48am
Quoting mmudasir
any broker increase margin for EURCHF. i have no any email from my broker. i want to know are broker increasing their margin requirment for this pair untill refreendum outcome.
Not mine. I dread the day that they do
  • #13,163
  • Nov 26, 2014 9:17am Nov 26, 2014 9:17am
Quoting mmudasir
any broker increase margin for EURCHF. i have no any email from my broker. i want to know are broker increasing their margin requirment for this pair untill refreendum outcome.
saxobank is 8% for few months now
  • #13,164
  • Nov 26, 2014 12:06pm Nov 26, 2014 12:06pm

  1. ECB Constancio: May consider sovereign bond buys in Q1 2015From @MNIEurozone | 8 hr ago

No, not good news for the euro. This means open, clear quantitative easing. What the BOE, BOJ does and what the FED just stopped, the ECB is about to start... Printing enormous amount of money out of thin air. End of the german dream of strong euro based on the same principles like the DM at its time. And this was the deal when they created the euro - no QE. This is what the germans, dutch fight for - to keep it as it was, and this is the fight which they will loose very soon. This issue is much more important than the Gold Referendum, because this could put pressure on the floor big time and for long time. But if the SNB is smart enough, they scare away the real money flow from the CHF creating an uncomfortable environment for those market participants who would decide to seek CHF for their euros. And here I don't speak about speculative capital trying to break the floor but about "real money". I expect something in December at the swiss bid rate decision. The only thing what I see is introducing negative rates... Because printing euro to buy sovereign bonds makes the CHF more desireable. In 2012 June, July, Aug. the SNB was forced to print 66B, 60B, and some 30B to protect the floor. Last week they intervened around 1.2010 for around 5B. I do not see they want to do the same thing for months or years. I expect after the weekend's "NO" the first wave up, or at least a spike, and if the euro CPI comes out bad and they start to print money, then I expect something serious from the SNB on the 11th of Dec. and a move up. Many "if"s and the whole thing can be longer drawn out depending on both banks, but I do not see any other way. (I don't have to say, giving up the floor is not an option.)

  • #13,165
  • Nov 26, 2014 12:34pm Nov 26, 2014 12:34pm
Quoting Devabala
ECB Constancio: May consider sovereign bond buys in Q1 2015From @MNIEurozone | 8 hr ago No, not good news for the euro. This means open, clear quantitative easing. What the BOE, BOJ does and what the FED just stopped, the ECB is about to start... Printing enormous amount of money out of thin air. End of the german dream of strong euro based on the same principles like the DM at its time. And this was the deal when...
good point, i expect to see eurusd cca 1.0000 in 2 years, SNB should make serious decision both grand negative rate like -0.5 and goverment rise of taxes on property speculative buying
  • #13,166
  • Nov 27, 2014 11:28am Nov 27, 2014 11:28am
Why too much silence on EC thread before only 3 days to Swiss Gold BS.

Am donating Pampers for free, I think many are interested

Common dudes, Life is about opportunities, take it and loose better than staying aside and regretting your decision forever.....

Looks like EC Bears are going fully stupid dragging the pair lower until the last second before the BS news, despite this may be good news for us Bulls since it may spike madly high after the Gold BS

SNB very calm relaxed thinking that this is some playstation game backed with their utmost determination.

Never underestimate the nonsense yes campaign voting since polls are made on few thousands while millions will vote, within the undecided!!, despite polls are mainly run by professional companies but nothing is guaranteed, decisions change till the last seconds of voting and anything can have a sudden impact on voters, maybe the yes campaign are distributing free Gold Ounces to voters, then am a yes voter for sure
Trade according to current market condition, not what you think would be.
  • #13,167
  • Nov 27, 2014 11:42am Nov 27, 2014 11:42am
By the way, anyone noticed increase on EC spread?

If any broker wanted to change margin on the pair it must had been done a week ago, now it's too late unless any broker decides to go fully scam

I believe many brokers are in crazy mentality before Swiss Gold BS, much more nervous than any EC Bull.

Am sure even if no intervention but some 100 or more pip spike after the majority of Swiss People vote NO, many brokers will loose big money as 90% are just market makers who open positions against their clients even the ones who claim being ECN STP.

Regulatory bodies will work in unstoppable machines status after Sunday if some brokers decide to open on a dip price under SNB floor just to mark a low hunting their clients stop losses or margin calls to instantly spike it up to the real high price.

IF EC price stays around 1.2020s am holding all my positions(Crazy lots) with no take profit no stop loss, if it spikes upward before friday close, am closing some as I still have super heavy longs at upper levels, so I'll increase my equity as had been doing so far without going totally greedy, am a winner anyway if intervention or big spike occurs
Trade according to current market condition, not what you think would be.
  • #13,168
  • Nov 27, 2014 1:15pm Nov 27, 2014 1:15pm
Quoting J.Clinton
By the way, anyone noticed increase on EC spread? If any broker wanted to change margin on the pair it must had been done a week ago, now it's too late unless any broker decides to go fully scam I believe many brokers are in crazy mentality before Swiss Gold BS, much more nervous than any EC Bull. Am sure even if no intervention but some 100 or more pip spike after the majority of Swiss People vote NO, many brokers will loose big money as 90% are just market makers who open positions against their clients even the ones who claim being...
i am also supper heavy long i am also waiting for Sunday open. i think Tomorrow price move upward .
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  • #13,169
  • Nov 27, 2014 1:41pm Nov 27, 2014 1:41pm
why do you think that EURCHF will go up when referendum will be against gold standard, this will preserve the status quo, I wouldn't expect serious moves on the marktet in such scenario, look at Scotland case, rererendum was in line with expectations and gbpusd rate remainded calm after that.
  • #13,170
  • Nov 27, 2014 1:46pm Nov 27, 2014 1:46pm
Quoting tomas.v
why do you think that EURCHF will go up when referendum will be against gold standard, this will preserve the status quo, I wouldn't expect serious moves on the marktet in such scenario, look at Scotland case, rererendum was in line with expectations and gbpusd rate remainded calm after that.

but the truth is in that time was no intervention for GBP. Market will make a relief rally after NO vote
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  • #13,171
  • Nov 27, 2014 1:49pm Nov 27, 2014 1:49pm
Hi guys:

I have around 150k usd ready to fire in EUR/CHF long position. What broker u reccomend ? Theres any Brokers that allow us 1:300 leverage or so and less than 40% stop out level ?
i a sk this because i usually only trade in FXCM and Forex.com but these 2 brokers despite being top Brokers in my opinion are very bad to trade this pair, because they have only 1:100 and 1/200 leverage depending on how much is your Balance and also they have 100% stop out level, so makes it all impossible.
So please give me your opinion about wha tis the best broker to trade this pair and tell me why.
Regarding Spreads i can tell you Clinnton that in FXCM the spread di not increassed, its exaclt the same at 0.4-0.7 pips, and regarding margin requirements so far both FXCM and Forex.com did not changed it too.
Finally i understand your feat aboutthe volatility at 22h00 GMT of Sunday when Retail brokers open, and mainly your concern about the fact that they can open with spreads of 40 pips or so, making the sell price be 20 pips lower that in real market, however, i think that even if they do it, u dont have to wrroy about your stop loss bering hit, simply because of this, in Swiss the referendum resolts usually come out on sunday around 16h30 GMT, so since market only opens at 22h00 GMT ( more than 5 hours alter) , when market opens the EUR/CHF will be already at 1.2050 at least, so i imagine that your Stop loss is at 1.2085 or so, so that means that the spread must be 130 points in order to your Stop Loss get hit. Do you agree ?
give em feedback please guys, lets shar eopinions and make money
  • #13,172
  • Nov 27, 2014 2:29pm Nov 27, 2014 2:29pm
you can try fxpro, they used to offer 1:500 leverage, but I am not sure how it looks like now.
  • #13,173
  • Nov 27, 2014 2:55pm Nov 27, 2014 2:55pm
swaps flat till next snb meeting, afterwards more negative... market expecting negative interest on chf

expect no reaction after sundays vote...
  • #13,174
  • Nov 27, 2014 9:44pm Nov 27, 2014 9:44pm
Quoting Swissie
swaps flat till next snb meeting, afterwards more negative... market expecting negative interest on chf expect no reaction after sundays vote...
EC fwd for 3 months is 5 pips bellow current level, this means expectation of negative rate on CHF

CALL options value strike 1.2015 with expiration 1.12.2014. 16hours CET is cca 25-6 pips, they dont expect anything this monday
  • #13,175
  • Nov 27, 2014 10:16pm Nov 27, 2014 10:16pm
Quoting tomas.v
why do you think that EURCHF will go up when referendum will be against gold standard, this will preserve the status quo, I wouldn't expect serious moves on the marktet in such scenario, look at Scotland case, rererendum was in line with expectations and gbpusd rate remainded calm after that.
gbpusd rate jumped like 250-300 pips day before throughout the voting day and into the results? What do you mean the rate didn't change? Buy the rumor sell the fact im prob not going to trade this in any way but it will probably pop then drop right back to where it is now.
  • #13,176
  • Nov 27, 2014 11:34pm Nov 27, 2014 11:34pm
Quoting thegmann
{quote} gbpusd rate jumped like 250-300 pips day before throughout the voting day and into the results? What do you mean the rate didn't change? Buy the rumor sell the fact im prob not going to trade this in any way but it will probably pop then drop right back to where it is now.
we could see to ease pressure on EURCHF and get a relief rally if vote NO. relief rally means 100 pip rally
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  • #13,177
  • Nov 28, 2014 3:11am Nov 28, 2014 3:11am
EC is silent and all peoples of this thread are also silent. every one is waiting for referendum results .i also cant wait ,i want NO vote and EC gap up and my full heavy long with much profit
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  • #13,178
  • Nov 28, 2014 3:53am Nov 28, 2014 3:53am
SAXOBANK spread on options for EC has widen from 9 to 20 pips, price of options for 1.12. rise 10 pips, and volatility is now 8%, maybe there will be some action after all
  • #13,179
  • Nov 28, 2014 8:17am Nov 28, 2014 8:17am
Down 10 pips since this morning
  • #13,180
  • Nov 28, 2014 8:21am Nov 28, 2014 8:21am
Quoting zoran22
SAXOBANK spread on options for EC has widen from 9 to 20 pips, price of options for 1.12. rise 10 pips, and volatility is now 8%, maybe there will be some action after all
Saxo bank is using the most ridiculous bid ask spread on eurchf options I have ever seen. it really is sad that they allow themselves to quote such uncompetitive prices.

Personally I would add a long position going into the weekend with the objective to sell it back on Monday at 1.2035 or 1.2040
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