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  • #77,061
  • Oct 24, 2014 10:56am Oct 24, 2014 10:56am
Comment JPY Pairs Follow-Up:

As you can see, all are back at, or near the highs of the day as the LS comes to a close. This is a sign the MMs are either still at work closing their longs, or have already shifted to building their short positions. After all, what is the prescribed action at highs? Buy low, sell high. It is as simple as that as the LS closes on a Friday.
  • #77,062
  • Oct 24, 2014 3:02pm Oct 24, 2014 3:02pm
Quoting traderathome
USDJPY Short Trade Open: M15, combination of Classics and Scouts that open this trade. The trade is based on PA waves that are bearish overall, and the fact that the MMs have been pumping all of the JPY pairs today back to their previous highs,....something irregular for a Friday, unless they are closing their longs on all of them. TP is tentative, because this will probably not unfold until next week, when the target could be much, much lower. No SL at this time due to pure manipulation and volatility of price. {image}
I think you overreacting here a little bit. Easy with quantity, more quality!

There is no spoon....
  • #77,063
  • Edited 6:34am Oct 25, 2014 5:40am | Edited 6:34am
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} I think you overreacting here a little bit. Easy with quantity, more quality!
USDJPY:

Time will tell if I over reacted. As I saw it and see it, starting with the Asian session Friday, the MMs were selling off - closing longs and later opening shorts.

The Asian session MMs started off with price at highs and sold off (supposedly closing longs) and were still at the table for the LS run back up to go short. The LS MMs closed longs at the same time and then they ran it down (going short) into the US open. The US MMs hiked it back part way, then whacked it to the lows of the day and then ran it back even higher and then ran it part way back down. So they too had opportunity to close longs and open shorts. And, I interpret the move back up very late in Friday after hours trading as the MMs hiking the price back up so it will open high next week and they can resume closing longs/opening shorts until they are ready to pull the rug out from under it.

In part, I see this as bearish because I see all the JPY pairs becoming bearish. It is rare that position building takes place on Fridays. That the price on all the JPY pairs was push up on Friday has to mean the MMs desired to close their longs before the weekend, or at least start closing their longs before the weekend, and maybe even to start building short before the weekend. So, something must be up that the MMs are aware of. That there is tentatively two JPY releases next week adds spice to the brew. And why only "tentative"? This all adds up to something unusual and I am suspicious of it. But, putting my suspicions aside, and just trading what I see on the chart, I see the charts of all the JPY pairs right at the turning point from bulls to bears.

Look at the Day charts of the JPY pairs and you will see what I mean. USDJPY is the only one of them that remains "high" relative to historic prices. There was the thought that this could go higher, due to an inverted H&S previously posted on the H4 chart. But on the Day chart JPYUSD has retraced back up 62%. The numbers for the retrace study and the H&S do not jibe. I tend to go with the retrace study, especially considering the multiple strong pushes down in price on Friday.

My trading started when I saw the price break to the lows in the US session. But it stalled out and then stared back up, which I thought was going to be only a temporary retrace before moving lower. But, as the retrace went ever higher I decided to go for it, even if they took it all the way back up, because if they were establishing a range to be used into next week to prolong the closing of longs and opening of shorts, my average entry would be near the middle of the range. That means I should have opportunities to vacate for no loss should this phase start to look as though it might be dragged out.

My goal was not to pick a top. I waited until a valid Classic short setup in the US session, after repeated strong runs down of the price. For my money, the last big run up was a Stop Hunt on those that shorted during those preceding runs down. My average entry price at the whole number is not a bad place to be the way things look. The trade went into profit briefly at the after hours lows. Then too, there is always the possibility of a gap down next week. We can never know how price will move. Time will tell if I over reacted.

As an aside, but this might be significant, you will see on the JPY pairs that Friday the MMs seemed hell bent on getting prices above a whole number. They did very well in this regard with AUDJPY, but they struggled with EURJPY, GBPJPY and NZDJPY. On the other hand, USDJPY was already well above a whole number coming into Friday. So most of the PA on USDJPY Friday, whether up or down, was predominately above a whole number. This, from PVSRA, we know could be a sign the MMs are bears.

-tah
  • #77,064
  • Oct 26, 2014 6:06am Oct 26, 2014 6:06am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} On my charts using upgraded indys, the two range numbers are the Week and the Day computed range averages. It does not show the Day Range average and the actual day range achieved, as does yours.
How do you use this Range factor ? what does it mean for the traders ?Is this validate information ?At times i have seen the second number shows low value and increases .
Dragon the best Indicator
  • #77,065
  • Oct 26, 2014 9:07am Oct 26, 2014 9:07am
Quoting mg_vinodkuma
{quote} How do you use this Range factor ? what does it mean for the traders ?Is this validate information ?At times i have seen the second number shows low value and increases .
Is explained in the User Notes of the indicator.
  • #77,066
  • Oct 27, 2014 6:14am Oct 27, 2014 6:14am
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  • #77,067
  • Oct 27, 2014 6:38am Oct 27, 2014 6:38am
Quoting flamingo
Hello, sell at 1.286 1tp 1.2660 2tp 1.2630 sl 1.2720 {image}
i am in the same trade.
Dragon the best Indicator
  • #77,068
  • Oct 27, 2014 7:27am Oct 27, 2014 7:27am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDJPY: Time will tell if I over reacted. As I saw it and see it, starting with the Asian session Friday, the MMs were selling off - closing longs and later opening shorts. The Asian session MMs started off with price at highs and sold off (supposedly closing longs) and were still at the table for the LS run back up to go short. The LS MMs closed longs at the same time and then they ran it down (going short) into the US open. The US MMs hiked it back part way, then whacked it to the lows of the day and then ran it back even higher and then...

I bow at your view of market. USDJPY well played sir.
There is no spoon....
  • #77,069
  • Oct 27, 2014 8:23am Oct 27, 2014 8:23am
USDCAD:

Sonicers, this might finally be breaking up, following two dips below the whole number (PVSRA = bulls) last week.....
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  • #77,070
  • Edited 8:44am Oct 27, 2014 8:33am | Edited 8:44am
AUDUSD:

Sonicers, this might be worth keeping an eye on.

Friday and today much time and activity has been above the whole number (PVSRA = bears), and even now there continues a lot of activity in the whole number area while the MMs continue to support the price. It could break low at any time.

I am suspicious that the ranging might continue into tomorrow, because if this is being set up for a dive, the greedy Robber Banks/MMs will try to load up as much as possible, meaning for so long as they can sucker longs in. After that, they might do a fake breakout run down to re-motivate more longs in, so there will be more longs to Stop Hunt later, before they initiate any real drive down.

However, we can never know how the price will move next, so it warrants watching.
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  • #77,071
  • Edited 9:33am Oct 27, 2014 8:56am | Edited 9:33am
EURUSD:

My take on this is that the MMs are bullish. PA today appears to me as follows.

The Asian session Robber Banks/MMs gapped the price up a bit and then continued to manipulate it higher, so as to close previously accumulated longs at good profit. Then they drove the price back below the whole number to start rebuilding longs. Same with the LS MMs, up to close old longs at profit and back down to start re-building long below the whole number. I could be wrong about this, have been before.

Right now the Dragon continues an upwards trek. It is above the Trend and both seem near to start angling up. But right now they are flat - no trading when flat! - and so, though a new break up could come at any time, the MMs could suddenly whack the price, too!

We can never know how the MMs will move price next. So, it is best to let this play out longer. It is only Monday.
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EDIT: This sudden move up thru DR1 on high activity could be the MMs head faking up, sucking in longs while here, at these highs, the US MMs - as maybe did the Asian and LS MMs earlier - close old longs. Now, the MMs have a new crop of others that have just gone long. If the MMs are indeed bulls, then a Stop Hunt on these longs is surely coming. So, the question remains, are the MMs bulls that are profiting by closing their old longs and suckering in a new crop other longers that they can Stop Hunt later? Or, are the MMs bears, fabricating upwards momentum to close their longs and build short as others flock in to go long? Only time will tell. This is a reason to be very careful about trying to find a trade early in the week. The MMs might not be finished posturing for the real moves they have planned for later in the week.
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  • #77,072
  • Oct 27, 2014 9:52am Oct 27, 2014 9:52am
Hi guys....

I am reading this thread from beginning; now I am on the 38 thread page. I really appreciate if someone give me direction for finding out thread page for Sonic R System 2014.

There are many changes made on new system. I hope someone will give me accurate thread page for reading about this powerful system.

Thanks.
Umee
I Win, I Lose, It's my Job... And I Love it!
  • #77,073
  • Oct 27, 2014 10:31am Oct 27, 2014 10:31am
Quoting umairsheikh2
Hi guys.... I am reading this thread from beginning; now I am on the 38 thread page. I really appreciate if someone give me direction for finding out thread page for Sonic R System 2014. There are many changes made on new system. I hope someone will give me accurate thread page for reading about this powerful system. Thanks. Umee
The latest info is on Page 1

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  • #77,074
  • Oct 27, 2014 11:07am Oct 27, 2014 11:07am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} The latest info is on Page 1 {image}
Yeah I have download template and indicators from 1st page. But I want to know thread page about new system with entry points and exit points.

If you noticed from the beginning of this thread, there are many example for entry points. And member contributed make this system more powerful. So these example clear my confusions and doubts. That's why I need thread page for Sonic R System 2014.

Thanks.
Umee
I Win, I Lose, It's my Job... And I Love it!
  • #77,075
  • Oct 27, 2014 1:32pm Oct 27, 2014 1:32pm
Quoting umairsheikh2
{quote}That's why I need thread page for Sonic R System 2014. Thanks. Umee
Maybe this one??
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...59#post7348659
  • #77,076
  • Edited 5:24pm Oct 27, 2014 4:33pm | Edited 5:24pm
Quoting umairsheikh2
{quote} Yeah I have download template and indicators from 1st page. But I want to know thread page about new system with entry points and exit points. If you noticed from the beginning of this thread, there are many example for entry points. And member contributed make this system more powerful. So these example clear my confusions and doubts. That's why I need thread page for Sonic R System 2014. Thanks. Umee
umairsheikh2,

Post #1 is the thread page for Sonic R System. Everything is explained in Post #1 and by the material linked in Post #1. You must read all that required material, with your thinking cap on, if you are serious about this. It seems to me that you have not even read the Sonic R. System Manual linked therein!

Please do your Post #1 Homework instead of asking questions. All serious Sonicers do their Post #1 Homework - on their own - to learn the Sonic R. System. And if they can, you can too.

We Sonicers, one and all, are simply traders learning to become better traders. We each do the work required of us, and we trade, and we share. But we do not have time to spoon feed anyone that comes here looking for things to be laid out on a silver platter, especially for them on their request. That is why Post #1 was created in the format that it has been created.

If you are serious about learning the Sonic R. System, please do your Post #1 Homework. Learning the Sonic R. System, and to be competent with it, is a process, not an event. Post #1 will lead you to worthwhile material to read, to think about and to help you get started on the right foot.

-tah
  • #77,077
  • Oct 27, 2014 5:31pm Oct 27, 2014 5:31pm
Quoting traderathome
USDCAD: Sonicers, this might finally be breaking up, following two dips below the whole number (PVSRA = bulls) last week..... {image}
USDCAD:

Sonicers, this is back up to the possible breakout level. You can see how the MMs are controlling the price below the half number (PVSRA = bulls) until they are ready for it to go up. I think this warrants a close watch from this time forward. We cannot know how the MMs will move price, but this is sustaining signs of the bull.
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  • #77,078
  • Oct 27, 2014 9:05pm Oct 27, 2014 9:05pm
Quoting traderathome
USDJPY Short Trade Open: M15, combination of Classics and Scouts that open this trade. The trade is based on PA waves that are bearish overall, and the fact that the MMs have been pumping all of the JPY pairs today back to their previous highs,....something irregular for a Friday, unless they are closing their longs on all of them. TP is tentative, because this will probably not unfold until next week, when the target could be much, much lower. No SL at this time due to pure manipulation and volatility of price. {image}
USDJPY Short Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 13.9 pips average, 222.6 pips total.

Looks like this could go higher. Decided to take profit and wait and see what further develops.
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  • #77,079
  • Oct 27, 2014 9:42pm Oct 27, 2014 9:42pm
USDJPY Long Trade Open:

M15 Classic re-entry, pre-LS.

On the heels of closing my short trade, for which I had greater expectations and a chance to exit for greater profits, I am now seeing the potential for a bull run. It might only go back to previous highs. There is no telling how the price will move. Since the week opened the MMs have put the price back below the whole number and have kept it there (PVSRA = bulls?). So far today the Asian session MMs have been continuing the move up from the lows of yesterday. So, I count this current move down - a retrace to the EP zone of an earlier "setup" - as calculated opportunity to switch to a long trade.
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  • #77,080
  • Oct 27, 2014 10:11pm Oct 27, 2014 10:11pm
Quoting traderathome
USDCAD Long Trade Open: M5 Classic setup, post-LS. This is based in part on MMs having driven the price below whole number - imho as conclusion of a Stop Hunt of longs (and probably the third one in the last seven trading days!) - that was followed by a strong recovery & bounce up. It is also based on my interpretation of the Month chart; that the market is very bullish here. No TP or SL at this time, as this pair is very volatile. I want to watch, wait and see what the MMs do with the price. The extreme price manipulation of this pair, over more...
USDCAD Long Trade Closed:

Closed for gain of 23.3 pips average, 139.7 pips total.

I would anticipate this is soon to break upwards thru the half number. Maybe today. But, maybe also today there will be a Stop Hunt on longs in conjunction with the USD releases. I really don't have any idea, but I have decided to take profit and wait and see what develops.
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