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  • #401,481
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:14am Oct 2, 2014 9:14am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} This time is a little different... you do realize last year when i was bearish at GBPUSD 1.58 it was on the bet that tapering was about to come.... but it came a little longer than expected because of mixed data.... This time us rate hike is very likely to be soon rather than later because of the fact that US data have been consistently good...... you should look at USDX where it was last year and where it is now....
A rate hike would crush this country. Not saying they won't do it but I'm betting it won't be too soon.
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  • #401,482
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:15am Oct 2, 2014 9:15am
Quoting nAVIN2007
{quote} 4 contract is how much pound per pip?
4 Contracts ie 4 standard lots... ie 40 USD per PIP
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  • #401,483
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:15am Oct 2, 2014 9:15am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} you're going in guns blazing... nice!
Still got wobbly legs lol - noobish
  • #401,484
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:15am Oct 2, 2014 9:15am
Quoting albchr
{quote} I believe so. You mean as to whether it follows through or reverses right? I really have a very limited knowledge. I've become interested in them but haven't had the time to really dig in. I know there are several kinds as well. US, UK ones that expire and ones that don't?
European style options can only be exercised after the expiry date / time...........American can be at any time before expiry........
  • #401,485
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:16am Oct 2, 2014 9:16am
Quoting albchr
{quote} A rate hike would crush this country. Not saying they won't do it but I'm betting it won't be too soon.
indeed it would crush US but seriously... the world is depressed with US being the only out shining one so its pretty damn way due for US to have another crisis... afterall its been 7 years since 2007/2008, which fits the timeframe of US crisis ever 8-10 years.
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  • #401,486
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:17am Oct 2, 2014 9:17am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Now you lost me - no idea what KI/KO/PV is. Told ya I know s**t about options.
Yeah. It makes a lot of difference whether , let's say , the option is a knock-out , so the buyer wants to protect the level and seller hit the cr@p out of it.
On the other hand, game is reversed if it's a knock-in the buyer wants to hit but the seller defend it.

Plain vanilla call or puts mean nothing short-term.

So if information given along strike prices is incomplete the information is totally worthless. Hope this helped a little.
Hear the music before the song is over ...
  • #401,487
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:17am Oct 2, 2014 9:17am
Quoting cspip
{quote} European style options can only be exercised after the expiry date / time...........American can be at any time before expiry........
That's what it was. Thank you sir.
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  • #401,488
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:17am Oct 2, 2014 9:17am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} at 0.01 lots? dude what about your previous long at about 1.616x area aiming for 1.62 that didnt reach 1.62 and its in the water now...

its a position which is hedged against my overall position..at half a lot (0.56) +0.02
  • #401,489
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:20am Oct 2, 2014 9:20am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} indeed it would crush US but seriously... the world is depressed with US being the only out shining one so its pretty damn way due for US to have another crisis... afterall its been 7 years since 2007/2008, which fits the timeframe of US crisis ever 8-10 years.
The first crisis is still going on or do you see it ended sometime? Since the crisis started, things were made to make it even worse. Irresponsible banks were bailed out, irresponsible mortage companies were bailed out, more money was printed, so its like going with a broken car to a mechanic and the mechanic hits the car 20 times with a sledge hammer and sends it back as fixed.
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  • #401,490
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:23am Oct 2, 2014 9:23am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} indeed it would crush US but seriously... the world is depressed with US being the only out shining one so its pretty damn way due for US to have another crisis... afterall its been 7 years since 2007/2008, which fits the timeframe of US crisis ever 8-10 years.
Yeah it's coming. You can just "feel" it here. Not a question of if ... but when. Basically it would just be finishing the job already started long ago. IMHO
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  • #401,491
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:23am Oct 2, 2014 9:23am
Quoting GlobalMacro
{quote} Yeah. It makes a lot of difference whether , let's say , the option is a knock-out , so the buyer wants to protect the level and seller hit the cr@p out of it. On the other hand, game is reversed if it's a knock-in the buyer wants to hit but the seller defend it. Plain vanilla call or puts mean nothing short-term. So if information given along strike prices is incomplete the information is totally worthless. Hope this helped a little.
Thanks GM
  • #401,492
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:24am Oct 2, 2014 9:24am
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} The first crisis is still going on or do you see it ended sometime? Since the crisis started, things were made to make it even worse. Irresponsible banks were bailed out, irresponsible mortage companies were bailed out, more money was printed, so its like going with a broken car to a mechanic and the mechanic hits the car 20 times with a sledge hammer and sends it back as fixed.
LOL ... I never go anywhere without a BFH ...
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  • #401,493
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:25am Oct 2, 2014 9:25am
Quoting GlobalMacro
{quote} Yeah. It makes a lot of difference whether , let's say , the option is a knock-out , so the buyer wants to protect the level and seller hit the cr@p out of it. On the other hand, game is reversed if it's a knock-in the buyer wants to hit but the seller defend it. Plain vanilla call or puts mean nothing short-term. So if information given along strike prices is incomplete the information is totally worthless. Hope this helped a little.
Helped me a bit. Thanks GM
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  • #401,494
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:25am Oct 2, 2014 9:25am
Quoting GlobalMacro
{quote} Yeah. It makes a lot of difference whether , let's say , the option is a knock-out , so the buyer wants to protect the level and seller hit the cr@p out of it. On the other hand, game is reversed if it's a knock-in the buyer wants to hit but the seller defend it. Plain vanilla call or puts mean nothing short-term. So if information given along strike prices is incomplete the information is totally worthless. Hope this helped a little.
Dude talk about KIs ive been seeing some really dodgy structured product coming out from my bank...not gona say which bank i work but just keep your eyes out...

its a double layered bet essentially...

1st layer. Digital Exchange rate optoin where the buyer of the product gets to earn a quarterlly interest for each quarter where the price doesnt drop below strike. earns you friggin 9% interest.... (but you dont get this 9+9+9+9 until year end)
2nd layer. at year end there is also a put option on a basket of stocks. essentially the buyer of such product will not have to "take up the order" as long as it the laggard doesnt drop below strike... any drop below strike laggard at maturity date means you have to take up the shares of the basket.... sooo you might incurr losses comes down to whether the previous quarters if you are able to earn enough interest to cover the loss of taking up the shares or if you earn enough itnerest and do not need to take up the shares... at that point you walk away with the Capital + the interest
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  • #401,495
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:27am Oct 2, 2014 9:27am
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} The first crisis is still going on or do you see it ended sometime? Since the crisis started, things were made to make it even worse. Irresponsible banks were bailed out, irresponsible mortage companies were bailed out, more money was printed, so its like going with a broken car to a mechanic and the mechanic hits the car 20 times with a sledge hammer and sends it back as fixed.
LOL it ended 4 years after the collapse.... took only 4 years for US equities to recover the losses from 2008 and create new highs....
done.
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #401,496
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:28am Oct 2, 2014 9:28am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Don't THINK it matters and depends on where price was when you bought the option - I think
You can also sell options and keep the premium for doing so, its in your account instantly..........but as in all forms of trading, you better hope you picked the right direction......
  • #401,497
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:29am Oct 2, 2014 9:29am
Quoting albchr
{quote} LOL ... I never go anywhere without a BFH ...
Big F****n Hammer


or

Big F****n Harley or both Probably
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #401,498
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:30am Oct 2, 2014 9:30am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} Dude talk about KIs ive been seeing some really dodgy structured product coming out from my bank...not gona say which bank i work but just keep your eyes out... its a double layered bet essentially... 1st layer. Digital Exchange rate optoin where the buyer of the product gets to earn a quarterlly interest for each quarter where the price doesnt drop below strike. earns you friggin 9% interest.... (but you dont get this 9+9+9+9 until year end) 2nd layer. at year end there is also a put option on a basket of stocks. essentially the buyer of...
Cable was at 6250 this morning - thats 150 away from options price which just got hit(almost) - Think I need to take more notice of options lol.
  • #401,499
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:34am Oct 2, 2014 9:34am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Big F****n Hammer or Big F****n Harley or both Probably
I have a holster for one ... on the other. ...
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  • #401,500
  • Oct 2, 2014 9:35am Oct 2, 2014 9:35am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} LOL it ended 4 years after the collapse.... took only 4 years for US equities to recover the losses from 2008 and create new highs.... done.
Equities? I don't think third of the population depending on food stamps cares about equities. I don't think people who lost their homes in a foreclosure care about equities. Even I bought a condo worth $150k for $20k in a foreclosure and I wasn't able to sell it for $1 one year later, because people don't even have money to pay the yearly tax for the condo, so I don't care about equities either. US is in the deepest shit it ever was and there is no way out, because nothing is being done, other than spiking fake non-important numbers to all time highs, what a joke.
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