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  • #906,221
  • Jun 23, 2014 11:46am Jun 23, 2014 11:46am
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} Yes. {image}
so does that make the high after complete? and if so, is the target after, a new LL?
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  • #906,222
  • Jun 23, 2014 11:49am Jun 23, 2014 11:49am
So we get fibonacci ratios 1 and 0.618, and we want to get the middle level between them. Why we do not use average? This is because all the fibo ratios come by multiplication and division.

So it goes like this

x/0.618 = 1/x -----> x^2 = 1x0.618 ----> x = square root of (1x0.618) = 0.786
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  • #906,223
  • Jun 23, 2014 11:52am Jun 23, 2014 11:52am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} so does that make the high after complete? and if so, is the target after, a new LL? {image}
That is my expectation, but right now, no harmonic rules to say so.
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  • #906,224
  • Jun 23, 2014 11:53am Jun 23, 2014 11:53am
Some uses 0.764 as a fibo ratio? where does it come from? I can only think of 1 - 0.236 = 0.764, by subtraction. That is not correct.

If you use 0.236 on your chart you do not use 0.764. If you really want to use it, reverse your starting point and ending point.
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  • #906,225
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:01pm Jun 23, 2014 12:01pm
Quoting ffleo
So we get fibonacci ratios 1 and 0.618, and we want to get the middle level between them. Why we do not use average? This is because all the fibo ratios come by multiplication and division. So it goes like this x/0.618 = 1/x -----> x^2 = 1x0.618 ----> x = square root of (1x0.618) = 0.786
i have used it for years. its 50% or 1/2 between levels. or 23.6 if its pulled from the other direction.. L fib and L divi both used repeating numbers in nature. fib was the guy who brought it to s Europe. so he is credited with what was used for centuries before. in nature it takes 2 individual goats to create another. the new goat is half of each. L div did a few things with math also. he just did it in shapes and drawings. a visual form of math
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  • #906,226
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:06pm Jun 23, 2014 12:06pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i have used it for years. its 50% or 1/2 between levels. or 38.2 if its pulled from the other direction.. L fib and L divi both used repeating numbers in nature. fib was the guy who brought it to s Europe. so he is credited with what was used for centuries before. in nature it takes 2 individual goats to create another. the new goat is half of each. L div did a few things with math also. he just did it in shapes and drawings. a visual form of math {image}
do you mean leonardo da vinci by L divi? he was also a mathematician.
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  • #906,227
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:12pm Jun 23, 2014 12:12pm
Market has never been more fearful of the next Black Swan.
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  • #906,228
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:13pm Jun 23, 2014 12:13pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} leonardo da vinci?
yes, he was a pretty accurate in drawings that can only be done with math knowledge.. if i recall correctly 61.8 is a number in nature that goes with that drawing.. someone else may be better then myself to show it. i may not be explaining it correctly
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  • #906,229
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:18pm Jun 23, 2014 12:18pm
Quoting FXSayWhat
Market has never been more fearful of the next Black Swan. {image}
There are the PPT (plunge protection team) and circuit breakers. What the fuck are those things? why do we need them?
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  • #906,230
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:27pm Jun 23, 2014 12:27pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} do you mean leonardo da vinci by L divi? he was also a mathematician.
yes, he was a smart guy. its no doubt he understood math. many of the formulas are in a drawing. he applied math to nature and showed where the math is in nature. like the height of a man is = to the arm span etc. the point of the circle... he showed it in geometric shapes. and placed a man in it. whats dear to a man is in the center.
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  • #906,231
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:29pm Jun 23, 2014 12:29pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} I am not talking about what one gets when calculating long enough, I am talking of the starting sequence There was a reason the that mathematicians defined the starting sequence as 0 1 1 2


The bee ancestry code

Fibonacci numbers also appear in the description of the reproduction of a population of idealized honeybees, according to the following rules:

If an egg is laid by an unmated female, it hatches a male or drone bee.
If, however, an egg was fertilized by a male, it hatches a female.
Thus, a male bee always has one parent, and a female bee has two.

If one traces the ancestry of any male bee (1 bee), he has 1 parent (1 bee), 2 grandparents, 3 great-grandparents, 5 great-great-grandparents, and so on. This sequence of numbers of parents is the Fibonacci sequence. The number of ancestors at each level, Fn, is the number of female ancestors, which is Fn−1, plus the number of male ancestors, which is Fn−2.[57] This is under the unrealistic assumption that the ancestors at each level are otherwise unrelated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonac...et.27s_formula
  • #906,232
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:33pm Jun 23, 2014 12:33pm
Quoting FXSayWhat
Market has never been more fearful of the next Black Swan. {image}
Do not understand

Since the VIX is on historical low levels it either shows that participants are extremely complacent or/and the market is rigged by huge transactions via options on the VIX and subsequent buying of the securities
  • #906,233
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:40pm Jun 23, 2014 12:40pm
And let's not forget that fibos even allow us to calculate the outcome of the World Cup correctly. It's the naturalistic, harmonic thing. Don't know how the Dutch fit into all this, though. Back to the drawing board.

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  • #906,234
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:40pm Jun 23, 2014 12:40pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} The bee ancestry code Fibonacci numbers also appear in the description of the reproduction of a population of idealized honeybees, according to the following rules: If an egg is laid by an unmated female, it hatches a male or drone bee. If, however, an egg was fertilized by a male, it hatches a female. Thus, a male bee always has one parent, and a female bee has two. If one traces the ancestry of any male bee (1 bee), he has 1 parent (1 bee), 2 grandparents, 3 great-grandparents, 5 great-great-grandparents, and so on. This sequence of numbers...
interesting unfertilized eggs can hatch so no eggs get wasted
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  • #906,235
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:44pm Jun 23, 2014 12:44pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} The bee ancestry code Fibonacci numbers also appear in the description of the reproduction of a population of idealized honeybees, according to the following rules: If an egg is laid by an unmated female, it hatches a male or drone bee. If, however, an egg was fertilized by a male, it hatches a female. Thus, a male bee always has one parent, and a female bee has two. If one traces the ancestry of any male bee (1 bee), he has 1 parent (1 bee), 2 grandparents, 3 great-grandparents, 5 great-great-grandparents, and so on. This sequence of numbers...
also interesting that if no male bee exists the egg will hatch a male to make one.
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  • #906,236
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:46pm Jun 23, 2014 12:46pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} also interesting that if no male bee exists the egg will hatch a male to make one.
but if too many male bees are there to fertilize the eggs, the eggs will hatch female to make up the deficiency of females to balance the female and male populations
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  • #906,237
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:48pm Jun 23, 2014 12:48pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} but if too many male bees are there to fertilize the eggs, the eggs will hatch female to make up the deficiency of females to balance the female and male populations
So in the end bee female and male populations are balanced.
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  • #906,238
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:50pm Jun 23, 2014 12:50pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} So in the end bee female and male populations are balanced.
but in the early days you only need female bees to lay eggs and the eggs will hatch males to create male bees.
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  • #906,239
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:50pm Jun 23, 2014 12:50pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} but if too many male bees are there to fertilize the eggs, the eggs will hatch female to make up the deficiency of females to balance the female and male populations
if a male gets the red ass at the queen. he makes a new female, so she can fight to the death the queen. or run off on a honeymoon to a new house.
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  • #906,240
  • Jun 23, 2014 12:52pm Jun 23, 2014 12:52pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} if a male gets the red ass at the queen. he makes a new female, so she can fight to the death the queen. or run off on a honeymoon to a new house.
correlated one generation might be ok. if too many generations are correlated, the species would die.
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