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Quoting bolehbah69
2 brokers on real account, which one is real on market close? {image} vs {image} one is facing down and the other one is facing up
I have two brokers and they are both different from each other and also different from yours. As far as i know each broker only shows trade volume from transactions made through their servers so EVERY broker will show at least somewhat different volumes because they all have different traders making the trades.
If someone else knows different please chime in...
Quoting WangXun
{quote} Hi, Prof TAH, have a good weekend! Could you give me the candle indicator? Similar to the Heiken Ashi! Thank you! {image}
No, because it is something I am considering and working on. What I am considering is if to replace the Sonic_2 PVA Candles indicator with a Sonic_2 Candles Suite indicator. It would have options for PVA candles, standard candles, simple price bars, and Heikin-Ashi candles modified to reveal price gaps. While I am considering this, I am working on it. It would require a Sonic_6 Volumes Suite indicator to go with it which would have options for PVA Volume and standard volume.

-tah
Quoting traderathome
{quote} No, because it is something I am considering and working on. What I am considering is if to replace the Sonic_2 PVA Candles indicator with a Sonic_2 Candles Suite indicator. It would have options for PVA candles, standard candles, simple price bars, and Heikin-Ashi candles modified to reveal price gaps. While I am considering this, I am working on it. It would require a Sonic_6 Volumes Suite indicator to go with it which would have options for PVA Volume and standard volume. -tah
Prof.Tah thanks for the sneak peek.
Btw you also working on the access panel to display the "Ask Price" line right, which your recent chart displayed the "Ask Price".
Oanda and LMAX are very different.

Oanda:
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Since is the last candle of the week, the spread is usually widen & wild movement before close.
EurJpy

Ready for a retracement?
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Exploit the market price by Volume Reading



I hope it help for a newcomer blue sonicers, a guidance how to find the spot and exploit market price. It’s just a compliment into Sonic Classic and PVSRA. A pdf that combine from a two pdf before. TAH often tell to be careful with scout, with this pdf, all newcomer will know the reason of “TAH warn”.


This pdf, encourage classic setup, with a step by step definition, to know the PVSRA reading, and how to exploit the edge. I really hope it will help all sonicers, even that haters of sonicers can read. Hopefully, all frustration, all pain will lessen, reduce the risk exposure and finally can be a tool for make money.


Things to remember, market always dynamic, so learn and learn always

I hope that my english can be understood, because it's not my native language.


Regards,
Gupito Poernawan



On a good day, I'm okay...
On a bad day, I'm okay too...
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It's all started from page one
Quoting Gupito1508
Exploit the market price by Volume Reading I hope it help for a newcomer blue sonicers, a guidance how to find the spot and exploit market price. It’s just a compliment into Sonic Classic and PVSRA. A pdf that combine from a two pdf before. TAH often tell to be careful with scout, with this pdf, all newcomer will know the reason of “TAH warn”. This pdf, encourage classic setup, with a step by step definition, to know the PVSRA reading, and how to exploit the edge. I really hope it will help all sonicers, even that haters of sonicers can read. Hopefully,...

you are amazing, thank you for being straight forward. i've had a hard time understanding this until you came
Trading is Easy.. Controlling your emotions is the hard part.
Quoting Bernhard
{quote} This misunderstanding of green candle/volume is exactly the point I am speaking about. Think why the volume is so high, it is not because of buying but because there is selling inside. and yes billko I understand exactly how the indicator works.

With a respects sir, maybe I can help "how to read the volume" on sonic pva in http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=3613


Things to remember, market always dynamic, so learn and learn always

I hope that my english can be understood, because it's not my native language.


Regards,
Gupito Poernawan



On a good day, I'm okay...
On a bad day, I'm okay too...
It's all started from page one
Quoting Gupito1508
Exploit the market price by Volume Reading I hope it help for a newcomer blue sonicers, a guidance how to find the spot and exploit market price. It’s just a compliment into Sonic Classic and PVSRA. A pdf that combine from a two pdf before. TAH often tell to be careful with scout, with this pdf, all newcomer will know the reason of “TAH warn”. This pdf, encourage classic setup, with a step by step definition, to know the PVSRA reading, and how to exploit the edge. I really hope it will help all sonicers, even that haters of sonicers can read. Hopefully,...
Thanks mate! Great info there.
I normally determine by "Buy Low, Sell High" which I look at the height of volume when Price at top/bottom.
Now learn something new, by filter colour...

Is my example correct?
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By the way this is my broker(Global Prime) type,
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-AdrianC.
Quoting Elhemano1
{quote} Thank you so much.. I will be looking out for that trade and keep learning before i enter a trade.
Quoting billko1977
{quote} Sir we mean no disrespect when we ask you to read post #1. please understand that. Some people are only willing to ask questions and not willing to do the work on their own. Im not saying this is you but definitely others. Im still not sure i understand the question exactly but this is the instruction pdf for the sonic indicators.... hope this helps http://www.forexfactory.com/attachment.php? attachmentid=1390785&d=1395390287
Quoting mima
{quote} Yes, sir/madam kindly please explain in terms of volume, which combination of volume activities, give " exhaustion volume". from the chart itself I did not understand it...or What would be in plain English definition of "exhaustion volume" . thank you for time of yours.
With a respects sir / madam, maybe I can help "how to read the volume" on sonic pva in http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php? t=114792&page=3613


Things to remember, market always dynamic, so learn and learn always

I hope that my english can be understood, because it's not my native language.


Regards,
Gupito Poernawan



On a good day, I'm okay...
On a bad day, I'm okay too...
It's all started from page one
Quoting AdrianC
{quote} Thanks mate! Great info there. I normally determine by "Buy Low, Sell High" which I look at the height of volume when Price at top/bottom. Now learn something new, by filter colour... Is my example correct? {image} By the way this is my broker(Global Prime) type, {image} -AdrianC.
Yes, your example is correct. And your broker use an market execution, wich may lead into a good indicator they have a dma system.

Things to remember, market always dynamic, so learn and learn always

I hope that my english can be understood, because it's not my native language.


Regards,
Gupito Poernawan



On a good day, I'm okay...
On a bad day, I'm okay too...
It's all started from page one
Quoting Gupito1508
{quote} {quote} {quote} With a respects sir / madam, maybe I can help "how to read the volume" on sonic pva in http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php? t=114792&page=3613 Things to remember, market always dynamic, so learn and learn always I hope that my english can be understood, because it's not my native language. Regards, Gupito Poernawan On a good day, I'm okay... On a bad day, I'm okay too...
your english just fine thanks for the sharing, i will save this PDF as my collection.
Quoting Gupito1508
Exploit the market price by Volume Reading I hope it help for a newcomer blue sonicers, a guidance how to find the spot and exploit market price. It’s just a compliment into Sonic Classic and PVSRA. A pdf that combine from a two pdf before. TAH often tell to be careful with scout, with this pdf, all newcomer will know the reason of “TAH warn”. This pdf, encourage classic setup, with a step by step definition, to know the PVSRA reading, and how to exploit the edge. I really hope it will help all sonicers, even that haters of sonicers can read. Hopefully,...
We use the same language Mas/Pak. Hope you could help me to do Prof TAH "homework".
Quoting Gupito1508
Exploit the market price by Volume Reading I hope it help for a newcomer blue sonicers, a guidance how to find the spot and exploit market price. {image}

very nice pdf

you said: STEP 3:
If MM long, find the evidence that red and purple start to decrease. If MM short, find the evidence that green and blue start to decrease.

I made this template with x2 PVA. You see here red falling, green increasing. As to your statement it means something am I right.

btw after restart mt4 the colours are reset, needs manually edit the 2 indis. (TAH can that be changed?)
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Quoting Bernhard
{quote} very nice pdf you said: STEP 3: If MM long, find the evidence that red and purple start to decrease. If MM short, find the evidence that green and blue start to decrease. I made this template with x2 PVA. You see here red falling, green increasing. As to your statement it means something am I right. btw after restart mt4 the colours are reset, needs manually edit the 2 indis. (TAH can that be changed?) {image}

Bernhard,

I think TAH is considering revising the candles and volume indicators as he mentions above Post #72,245. Kinda sounds like he is Beta testing now and some major changes in the works!

Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
yes he said. PVA indi has options to change colour but if u change FT its reset.

Same with levels my broker call it GOLD not XAUUSD and they are too small. Cant change it
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Quoting Bernhard
yes he said. PVA indi has options to change colour but if u change FT its reset. Same with levels my broker call it GOLD not XAUUSD and they are too small. Cant change it {image}
Bernard,

Last year there was a period of time I was considering including the option to change PVA colors, but with all the questions coming from newbies that did not do their homework, yet wanted to know everything, I decided that option would be a disaster to the thread. We all need to see the same colors all the time, and in every post. That way, there is only one set of colors to be asked about. Therefore, no option has been included in the new indicators. If you think about this, and in terms of this thread being a text book of the Sonic R. System, and therefore the necessity for consistency, I am sure you will come to agree.

As for the display of LEVELs for Gold, the next revision of the Access Panel should solve the problem. The current Access Panel test for the Gold instrument did not consider the broker would just call it "GOLD", so failing to see the traded instrument as "XAUUSD" the LEVELs spacing is not increased for you, as intended.

-tah
Quoting cigarguy
TAH & ALL SONICERS Here is the response that I just received regarding volume from TradersWay. They seem to think that a 100+ traders here do not know what their doing. {image}

Trade With TradersWay? Nope!

Several comments from an agent of TradersWay should be scrutinized. They are as follows.

"The main problem for us was quantity of ticks per second, we had really huge traffic and hundreds ticks for instrument per second. And we applied some rules to reduce it. As a result of this volume indicator became smoother. Today we have changed settings again and I think Volume will turn into more familiar view."

Brokers that are much, much larger than TradersWay have no problem processing traffic that is really, really huge compared to what TradersWay has. TradersWay is using a false argument to justify "doctoring" their MT4 volume. In the world of computers a second is an eternity. Hundreds, thousands of ticks should easily be processed. If their computer servers cannot handle it, they should get better ones or go out of business.

"Today we have changed settings again and I think Volume will turn into more familiar view."

This is particularly disturbing because it makes perfectly clear they are using a special algorithm that is not MT4/5 MetaQuotes approved, one that does not processes the number of times price changes, but something else instead, and that they can change settings at will to make the "TradersWay Volume" take on any appearance they want it to have. Moreover, not only can they change settings at will, there is no guarantee they won't change settings any time they want to!

"By the way usually quantity of tick correlates with real volumes, this is why this indicator was built and is widely using on MT4 platform. And this is the reason why it works for your trading systems."

Why the agent of TradersWay made this remark, one can only guess. It is a slap in the face, as if to say MetaQuotes has it right to count ticks because it does closely reflect true volume, and TradersWay clients can say "Goodbye" to it, and suffer seeing something else that is totally bogus relative to true volume.

Trade with TradersWay? Nope, not from what I am seeing here. Any change a broker makes that is not approved by MetaQuotes for their MT4/5 platfrom is far more likely to be done to favor the broker and to disadvantage the broker's clients, especially when right from the outset a change so obviously does disadvantage retail traders .

-tah
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