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Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Something Cameron posted a while ago is worth reposting now. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post4031871 "I will not elaborate any further in the above 2 theorems as I know this will lead to no progress in your learning phase. What works for me is for me." There is a paradox in all of this ... Pipeasy's posts can be really understood, only after you become consistently profitable and happy with your trading ... the irony is that at that stage you don't...
best post for a while...
tradewith60
Yonseo, this is your quote, which of the 2 catagories are you in please?


The only thing you will end up having left in a forum like this will most likely be one of 2 categories:

1. Real new traders googling for answers in forums such as these, even though the ultimate answer is found within themselves. It just takes time for the enlightenment to reach them.
2. Non profitable self promoters who are focused on post count trying to reach super duper contributor status. These will cherry pick and post charts (most likely demo) of positions currently in profits and show others how good they are, gaining attention in the process. These are the kind that think they are something when in reality they are nothing. Ironic because they seem to help others when they can't even help themselves.
Succesful people
tradewith60
Quoting 60minuteman
Yonseo, this is your quote, which of the 2 catagories are you in please? The only thing you will end up having left in a forum like this will most likely be one of 2 categories: 1. Real new traders googling for answers in forums such as these, even though the ultimate answer is found within themselves. It just takes time for the enlightenment to reach them. 2. Non profitable self promoters who are focused on post count trying to reach super duper contributor status. These will cherry pick and post charts (most likely demo) of positions currently...
Read carefully: "... will most likely be..."

If you ask yourself the same question, rest is self explanatory.
Yonseo, I am not in any of your categories or assumptions, you have already proven yourself to be a follower.

“I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail.”
tradewith60
Quoting 60minuteman
Yonseo, I am not in any of your categories or assumptions, you have already proven yourself to be a follower. “I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail.”
Hence I told you to read carefully "... will most likely be..." which means this does not categorise all as (1) and (2).

As for which category or assumptions you either claim to belong or not belong to, let your activity in the forum do the explaining.
That is none of my concern really.

I am not sure what basis you have to define or categorize a person as a "follower", I will leave it up to you to do the defining.
Quoting yonseo
{quote} ... one of the very reasons why G told me this thread was one of his biggest regrets
This is one of the saddest things i've read in a long time and truly breaks my heart .. a gentle guy like him giving us his best without asking anything in return
I don't know if I would have ever become profitable without this thread but at least it speeded up the process tremendously .. so for that from the bottom of my heart I would like to thank him
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
Quoting yonseo
Even if a professional does attempt make some contribution in forums out of curiosity and amusement, it leads to nothing more but losing traders asking questions like "can you specifically tell me this?" and "can you specifically tell me that?" either by a public response or most likely a private message. This alone is very time consuming and is one of the very reasons why G told me this thread was one of his biggest regrets and ended up leaving.
It is very sad if G actually regrets starting this thread. Come to think of it, I always thought of him as some kind of teacher. The best kind actually, the one that genuinely wants to pass his knowledge to his audience and enjoys the occasional spark of understanding. Granted, the nature of his lessons make the temptation to ask "can you specifically tell me this/that" very hard to resist. But to find out he would prefer to have never passed them saddens me deeply.
Quoting Armacom
{quote} This is one of the saddest things i've read in a long time and truly breaks my heart .. a gentle guy like him giving us his best without asking anything in return I don't know if I would have ever become profitable without this thread but at least it speeded up the process tremendously .. so for that from the bottom of my heart I would like to thank him
Nice post Armacom, I would ignore some posters on here, they clearly have jealousy issues.

All threads have a time span and Graeme clearly came to the end of his, I think we should not make assumptions based on what someone who claims to know him says.

I too got the extra push from this thread to start practicing what I was preaching. It was great just to see someone laying it out and explaining how they approached trend trading. I certainly do not agree with Graeme's entry techniques but that is the beauty, the details we can model to suit ourselves as long as the core principle of participating in trends remains.
tradewith60
+1080 on my EA position, be nice to get Yen trend going again
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Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} Nice post Armacom, I would ignore some posters on here, they clearly have jealousy issues. All threads have a time span and Graeme clearly came to the end of his, I think we should not make assumptions based on what someone who claims to know him says. I too got the extra push from this thread to start practicing what I was preaching. It was great just to see someone laying it out and explaining how they approached trend trading. I certainly do not agree with Graeme's entry techniques but that is the beauty, the details we can model to suit...
In my opinion this thread will always be one of the gems of this forum
The elegance resides in the fact that no matter the system it's always applicable. It's a way of thinking, of reasoning ..
It's up to the individual to choose a trigger for entry and apply it to G's vision.
If the readers of this thread asked so many questions it's because they don't truly understand what this thread is all about .. This is G's legacy
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
Quoting Armacom
{quote} This is one of the saddest things i've read in a long time and truly breaks my heart .. a gentle guy like him giving us his best without asking anything in return I don't know if I would have ever become profitable without this thread but at least it speeded up the process tremendously .. so for that from the bottom of my heart I would like to thank him
That is what counts. "speeding up the process"

Sometimes we can meet the right people at the right time and we can either learn faster or lesson the pain we could have potentially ended up in. What G has shared with others especially helps those who have a backlog experience in trading but had suffered enormous pain from short term strategies. This is because intraday didnt work out too well for G either, most likely due to similar reasons other failed intraday traders share.

Most importantly though this thread is a classic example why ideal trading is not some form of mechanical "If A do this, if B do that" approach. Leave the mechanical approaches for the self promoters who needs fullfillment in getting newbie followers anyways.
Quoting 60minuteman
+1080 on my EA position, be nice to get Yen trend going again {image}
NFP pushed all our pairs in the right direction
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Quoting Barbossa
{quote} It is very sad if G actually regrets starting this thread. Come to think of it, I always thought of him as some kind of teacher. The best kind actually, the one that genuinely wants to pass his knowledge to his audience and enjoys the occasional spark of understanding. Granted, the nature of his lessons make the temptation to ask "can you specifically tell me this/that" very hard to resist. But to find out he would prefer to have never passed them saddens me deeply.
Unfortunately, not everything turns out the way it has been originally intended.

If you have a motive to do something positive for the community and yet the consequences say otherwise, the motivation becomes invalidated.

Imagine you have people private messaging you with statements like:

"G I have read your writing many times and followed your trading methods but my account got wiped, what am I doing wrong?"

The obvious answer in this instance is that the trader most likely didnt control risk. Is G obliged to answer such a question?

But this is not just 1 person but hundreds of people asking similar obvious questions. Of course you get some "thank you" remarks here and there from the minority. But in the end it gets tiring and and any human being with common sense will know that time is better spend elsewhere.
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} Nice post Armacom, I would ignore some posters on here, they clearly have jealousy issues. All threads have a time span and Graeme clearly came to the end of his, I think we should not make assumptions based on what someone who claims to know him says. I too got the extra push from this thread to start practicing what I was preaching. It was great just to see someone laying it out and explaining how they approached trend trading. I certainly do not agree with Graeme's entry techniques but that is the beauty, the details we can model to suit...
Funny how you make this implicit statement, put me on ignore after being refuted regarding mathematical profitability, and start questioning me based on what I said.

Jealousy issues? You got to be kidding me.
I never had issues with anyone disagreeing with me. But you did have issues with people disagreeing with you.
That alone shows who's really got the issues.
Quoting Armacom
{quote} In my opinion this thread will always be one of the gems of this forum The elegance resides in the fact that no matter the system it's always applicable. It's a way of thinking, of reasoning .. It's up to the individual to choose a trigger for entry and apply it to G's vision. If the readers of this thread asked so many questions it's because they don't truly understand what this thread is all about .. This is G's legacy
you're spot on again Armacom, at least it shows the drive and thirst for learning that you really need to get good at trading. There's so much focus on the wrong stuff that it is made especially hard to learn. I think Graeme posed some excellent questions for many of us.

*nice trade too
tradewith60
Quoting yonseo
{quote} Funny how you make this implicit statement, put me on ignore after being refuted regarding mathematical profitability, and start questioning me based on what I said. Jealousy issues? You got to be kidding me. I never had issues with anyone disagreeing with me. But you did have issues with people disagreeing with you. That alone shows who's really got the issues.

Yonseo, The 60 second man has some problems, hes like this to everyone, that does not agree with his repeditive regurgitation....
Live today like theres no tomorrow-- Prioritize like you will die today
Quoting iamsovereign
{quote} Yonseo, The 60 second man has some problems, hes like this to everyone, that does not agree with his repeditive regurgitation....
LOL looks like I wasn't the first person 60min dude had issues with for disagreeing with him.

I am not surprised afterall.

Usually such an attitude is not well received in real life and won't get them far with people. Hence they need to self promote in forums such as these, only to show hints of their true character every now and then.
Let's get back on track

Instead of putting all our attention at arguing about everything and nothing we might as well get back at the core of this thread.
Position building - Exits - Etc.
Negativity is not welcome
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
Quoting yonseo
{quote} Funny how you make this implicit statement, put me on ignore after being refuted regarding mathematical profitability, and start questioning me based on what I said. Jealousy issues? You got to be kidding me. I never had issues with anyone disagreeing with me. But you did have issues with people disagreeing with you. That alone shows who's really got the issues.
I don't think anyone on her believes you know Graeme, you're a fraud.

Go start your own thread most people here want to trade Graeme's concepts and are not interested in your bile...
tradewith60
Normally I trade the 4H, but due to greed after NFP I placed a limit order on the 1H GBP/USD that got triggered. I made a mistake
But that's ok as long as is learn from it. + losing is part of it and we should just accept it and let it go
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