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  • #67,661
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:13am Mar 20, 2014 10:13am
Quoting loeil
{quote} I'm using "Close All OPEN Orders Specific pair" ea for closing all the trades on one pair at the same time. There are lot of more closing/opening ea-s here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=193727
Quoting cigarguy
{quote} loeil, Thanks appreciate the link
Thank you very much for the link!
  • #67,662
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:16am Mar 20, 2014 10:16am
GBPAUD

Sonicers,

Just like EA, this has potential. The MMs have just made a retrace. You can see on the DAY chart that they whisked the price above the upper half number to reload shorts. This appears to be in the bear "Run for Profit" phase now. If so (continue with your PVSRA), then retraces upwards represent shorting opportunities.

Remember, PVSRA is an analysis, not a trade entry method. While Scouts have their place, do not forget to remain focused on appropriate Classic setups when the price rolls back down from the tops of such retraces.

You can see on the M15 chart for today, just what I mean. A perfect setup came for a Classic short trade, following two whisks of the price above the 1/2 Level on notable volume (PVSRA). And this is the way to use PVSRA with the Sonic R. System of trading Classics.

-tah
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  • #67,663
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:21am Mar 20, 2014 10:21am
Quoting FXRobert
{quote} Exactly. H4 clear weakness. {image} H1 some struggling. {image}
UCAD - weakness. Buying interest gone. Of course it doesn't mean that price falls right away, positions building takes time and price can go even higher, but I don't see any serious buying anymore.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #67,664
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:32am Mar 20, 2014 10:32am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPAUD Short Trade Update: Added short #2, M15 Classic. {image}
GBPAUD Short Trade Update:

Added short #3, Scout, when MMs retraced the price back up thru 1/2 Level. No TP set at this time.
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  • #67,665
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:35am Mar 20, 2014 10:35am
Quoting loeil
UCAD - short. {image}

i was doing some reading on the UC pump up and people were using the price from 4 years ago to suggest "oh we are at a 50% retracement level.... it should go to XX"

using a price from 4 YEARS AGO..... come on now....
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  • #67,666
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:37am Mar 20, 2014 10:37am
Quoting traderathome
AUDUSD Long Trade Opened: Entered long #1, M1 Classic. This is the doldrums part of the day, but his has been nicely whacked by the MMs below RDL with notable activity showing up on price visits below the 1/4 Level (PVSRA), so I am taking a trade here. No TP yet. And the MMs might not be ready to rumble upwards. Time will tell. {image}
AUDUSD Long Trade Update:

Added long #2, Scout, via pending order (just in case the MMs whacked the price down to the whole number area again) while I slept. They did.
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  • #67,667
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:42am Mar 20, 2014 10:42am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AUDUSD Long Trade Update: Added long #2, Scout, via pending order (just in case the MMs whacked the price down to the whole number area again) while I slept. They did. {image}

TAH, I think the MM's wait for you to go to bed before they make their BIG moves
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  • #67,668
  • Mar 20, 2014 10:47am Mar 20, 2014 10:47am
Quoting eaymon
{quote} i was doing some reading on the UC pump up and people were using the price from 4 years ago to suggest "oh we are at a 50% retracement level.... it should go to XX" using a price from 4 YEARS AGO..... come on now....
The Sonic R. System with PVSRA

We Sonicers are blessed to have been given the Sonic R. System by Master Sonicdeejay. And we are further blessed to have PVSRA, the product of a lot of experimental trading, with both incredible and horrible results over the past year, that was accomplished by a lot of great Sonicers here. PVSRA would not be the superlative analysis method it is without their great contribution to its development.

There is a saying that it is not where price has been, but where it is going that matters. Well, where price has been does matter. And that is part of PVSRA.

But not 4 years back! That is asinine. Anybody thinking like that has no idea how the markets really work.

-tah
  • #67,669
  • Mar 20, 2014 11:03am Mar 20, 2014 11:03am
Do you guys think we can long soon at GBP/USD...
...explained in ss. I am very new with this system began this week and I am very unsure.
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  • #67,670
  • Edited 11:14am Mar 20, 2014 11:04am | Edited 11:14am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPJPY Short Trade Update: Added short #3, Scout. MMs have pushed price back above 1/2 Level followed by notable activity (look at our M1 chart), indicating they are seeking higher prices at which to accumulate shorts. I intend to add another short if the MMs push the price sufficiently higher. {image}
GBPJPY Short Trade Update:

Added short #4, Scout, as MMs again whisked the price back above the whole number Level. I see this as being in the bear "Run for Profits" phase, so taking advantage of retrace price manipulations by the MMs is the thing to do for the least risky trading of all. The TP shown is tentative, meaning if it is reached today, fine. Trade will be closed and I will look for a later opportunity to open a new short trade. However, if the TP is not reached today, I will reset it lower, perhaps another 100 pips lower, for Friday. RWL is about 200 pips lower, so that too is my possible next TP.
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  • #67,671
  • Mar 20, 2014 11:27am Mar 20, 2014 11:27am
Newbie post!

EUR JPY Long

Pending order if price comes down to 140.921.
SL - 140.362 (Below the previous pin bar on H4)

Comments TAH, Sonic?
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  • #67,672
  • Mar 20, 2014 11:50am Mar 20, 2014 11:50am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GU Short Trade Update: Entered short #3, Scout. Ahead of the upcoming USD releases, the MMs continue to keep bullish pressure on the price. Well, actually they are not really giving time for normal bullish pressure. they seem to be in a hurry, as they whipped the price up 25+ pips, in a single sudden minute and to above the 1/2 Level. And here the price is being supported, as though now they can convince longs that PA is indeed bullish. Ha! Having said that, the MMs might not be finished suckering longs. They could easily hike the...
GU Short Trade Update:

Added shorts #4-6, Scouts, this most recent Scout being added as the MMs whisked the price back above the whole number. From PVSRA I see the MMs are bears that are now in the "Run for Profits" phase. If so, then the bear MMs will be using retraces upwards as short accumulating opportunities. That will make trading short during such retraces the least risky way to trade (PVSRA). TP is tentative. I doubt it will be reached this week. Next week it will be reassessed.
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  • #67,673
  • Edited 1:26pm Mar 20, 2014 12:29pm | Edited 1:26pm
Quoting TaDaDa
Newbie post! EUR JPY Long Pending order if price comes down to 140.921. SL - 140.362 (Below the previous pin bar on H4) Comments TAH, Sonic? {image}
Where is PA, Position Building or Run for Profits?

Sign of strength? Maybe. But if so, for what purpose? Have you considered the big picture?

For example, look at H4. Could the MMs be bears, and now into their "Run for Profits" phase, using the tops of retraces upwards to accumulate short orders? And, would that not mean that any strength on the bottoms is just the MMs stopping the drop so they can move price back up, sucking in long traders to get the liquidity the MMs need in order to add more shorts?

We cannot know how price will move next, but that whopper drop in price on the H4 could well be the MMs transitioning from the bear "Position Building" phase to the bear "Run for Profits" phase. If it is, then we need to be looking for the tops of retraces for possible shorting opportunities, and best when they are Classic short setups.

More here: HERE

And, please, in all of your future posts, show the entire chart! That is a "must" for the best conveyance of the information Sonicers have come to expect here. Okay?

-tah
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  • #67,674
  • Mar 20, 2014 12:35pm Mar 20, 2014 12:35pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GU Short Trade Update: Added shorts #4-6, Scouts, this most recent Scout being added as the MMs whisked the price back above the whole number. From PVSRA I see the MMs are bears that are now in the "Run for Profits" phase. If so, then the bear MMs will be using retraces upwards as short accumulating opportunities. That will make trading short during such retraces the least risky way to trade (PVSRA). TP is tentative. I doubt it will be reached this week. Next week it will be reassessed. {image}
Right you are prof Tah looking forward to GU target around 1.62510 next week.
keep up the good work God bless u.
  • #67,675
  • Mar 20, 2014 12:44pm Mar 20, 2014 12:44pm
I have been silently following/learning/implementing the sonic R system for a little while now and I have to say it is a great system. I would add that pvsr-analysis is a must for any trader willing to be in this (rigged) market.

Many thanks TAH for all you have done and still doing. Many thanks to Sonic, loeil and many other good guys around here.
  • #67,676
  • Mar 20, 2014 1:05pm Mar 20, 2014 1:05pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} EU - closed for 4281 pips gain {image}
Tah, Loeil
Could you please spare a minute to tell me about how you guys decide your exits? i.e. When to close a trade that is in profit.

I am finding myself pulling the trigger and closing my profitable trades too soon.

Looking into Loeil's EU great trade I can see myself exiting too early (see pic below) at the first sign of strong demand. So, what made you so confident it would go lower even though it was coming up?
-thanks
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  • #67,677
  • Edited 1:23pm Mar 20, 2014 1:10pm | Edited 1:23pm
Quoting Tradeer
I have been silently following/learning/implementing the sonic R system for a little while now and I have to say it is a great system. I would add that pvsr-analysis is a must for any trader willing to be in this (rigged) market. Many thanks TAH for all you have done and still doing. Many thanks to Sonic, loeil and many other good guys around here.
Thank You for Appreciating the Efforts Made Here to Help Others

Tradeer (and others that have voiced the same sentiment),

In addition to speaking for myself, I am confident I am speaking for Master Sonicdeejay, loeil, and all the others here that labor to provide clarity to all who have embraced the Sonic R. System and who are working diligently to improve their application of it.

It is nice to know that in return for our efforts, we are sincerely appreciated.

Thank You,
-tah
  • #67,678
  • Mar 20, 2014 1:45pm Mar 20, 2014 1:45pm
Do u think its a good setup for EURUSD? Looks promising imho.

Oh, didnt saw cigarguys posting. he already has eu on chart.
I´m getting better and better using your fantastic system. I struggled months but I see things more clearly now! Thanks alot!
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  • #67,679
  • Mar 20, 2014 2:00pm Mar 20, 2014 2:00pm
Quoting Tradeer
{quote} Tah, Loeil Could you please spare a minute to tell me about how you guys decide your exits? i.e. When to close a trade that is in profit. I am finding myself pulling the trigger and closing my profitable trades too soon. Looking into Loeil's EU great trade I can see myself exiting too early (see pic below) at the first sign of strong demand. So, what made you so confident it would go lower even though it was coming up? -thanks {image}
Tradeer,

On this matter, I can only speak for myself. Loeil may impart wisdom of his own.

We cannot know how price will move next. That is a "given", so taking profits when good profits are for the taking, it is not a bad thing. We do not know where price will stop. You can see that after the first stop (and that showed stopping volume), the MMs whisked the price back up....a retrace in the now "Run for Profits" phase.....to reload shorts.

If you were out before the retrace, it was an opportunity to reopen the short trade, because according to PVSRA what we should be looking for are "Runs for Profits" and the retraces in them.

-tah
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  • #67,680
  • Edited 2:27pm Mar 20, 2014 2:03pm | Edited 2:27pm
Quoting tikku
Do u think its a good setup for EURUSD? Looks promising imho. Oh, didnt saw cigarguys posting. he already has eu on chart. I´m getting better and better using your fantastic system. I struggled months but I see things more clearly now! Thanks alot! {image}
Please re-read the requirements for posting that are in post #1! Please do not post with the quick order box overlaying the market panel. Please have enough consideration of other Sonicers to click it off before you post, so they can get all the information they expect!

Glad you are getting better and better! But be careful trading EU long. It seems to now be in the bear "Run for Profits" phase. If so, the least risky trading will be after the tops of upwards retraces, when a new setup forms for a Classic short trade.

In this case, the MMs might whisk price back up thru the upper whole number, for some more short building. We cannot know how price will move next, but that is a distinct possibility if they are bears. They will need liquidity for shorting, and a good way to get it is to drive the price up to suck in longs. Cigarguy might be "banking" on such a move being far enough to trade long for decent profit. But, it is a counter-trend play, and under current conditions the MMs could quickly reverse back down after themselves shorting against the sucked in longs, forcing the longs to sell before losing much money, and that selling will fuel the downwards fire.

The safest, least risky trade is to watch for the end of retraces in the "Run for Profits" phase, that leads to a Classic setup for a trade back in the "Run for Profits" direction. Do understand this.

-tah
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