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  • #22,041
  • Mar 4, 2014 8:52pm Mar 4, 2014 8:52pm
Oanda had a data breach this week. I'll attach their statement here in case anyone here might have been affected. They state their trade systems and client funds were not compromised. Keep security in mind in everything you do ... online and offline.
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  • #22,042
  • Mar 5, 2014 1:53am Mar 5, 2014 1:53am
Quoting bluewatercat
Oanda had a data breach this week. I'll attach their statement here in case anyone here might have been affected. They state their trade systems and client funds were not compromised. Keep security in mind in everything you do ... online and offline.{image}
Thanks for the heads up any trades?
gEt BusY LiVinG oR Get bUsy dyIng
  • #22,043
  • Mar 5, 2014 10:28am Mar 5, 2014 10:28am
Entered a long EJ trade this morning. Exited at BE. To me, it seems PA has been tough this week.
  • #22,044
  • Mar 5, 2014 6:19pm Mar 5, 2014 6:19pm
Hi everyone...and a warm welcome home to PM1.....good to see you back and hope you're relaxed after your holidays

I've been otherwise occupied for most of this week, but I'm still floating around. Yup, the PA has been messy due to the Ukraine events, hopefully both that and the PA will settle down before long...fingers crossed!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #22,045
  • Mar 5, 2014 11:51pm Mar 5, 2014 11:51pm
Hi genesis members,

I am glad to be accepted in the house. I have been trading over 2 years and had been following genesis since last april, I am very impressed with the genesis team members and especially RJ for maintaining the integrity of the thread. I have been a bit busy for last couple of months. i will be posting my trades in few days (as of yet I am still busy). I am also experimenting with genesis signals for my demo trading. It is been quite interesting to find out how genesis signals are almost accurrate in finding out the HPT signals.

once again, thanks for RJ for letting me in this thread and to all genesis members

see u soon
  • #22,046
  • Mar 6, 2014 2:41am Mar 6, 2014 2:41am
Quoting civilpes2001
Hi genesis members, I am glad to be accepted in the house. I have been trading over 2 years and had been following genesis since last april, I am very impressed with the genesis team members and especially RJ for maintaining the integrity of the thread. I have been a bit busy for last couple of months. i will be posting my trades in few days (as of yet I am still busy). I am also experimenting with genesis signals for my demo trading. It is been quite interesting to find out how genesis signals are almost accurrate in finding out the HPT signals....
Welcome to Genesis, Son of Man

Cheers J.
Winning isnt everything but coming second sucks (Charlie Brown)
  • #22,047
  • Mar 6, 2014 3:54am Mar 6, 2014 3:54am
Quoting civilpes2001
Hi genesis members, I am glad to be accepted in the house. I have been trading over 2 years and had been following genesis since last april, I am very impressed with the genesis team members and especially RJ for maintaining the integrity of the thread. I have been a bit busy for last couple of months. i will be posting my trades in few days (as of yet I am still busy). I am also experimenting with genesis signals for my demo trading. It is been quite interesting to find out how genesis signals are almost accurrate in finding out the HPT signals....

Good to see you here

I'm a bit busy this week with several things, but I still drop by and see how we're doing.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #22,048
  • Mar 6, 2014 5:00am Mar 6, 2014 5:00am
GJ short here -13 no follow through gave it a chance but closed after matrix changed back and 15 min stoch lost its angle
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  • #22,049
  • Mar 6, 2014 12:11pm Mar 6, 2014 12:11pm
Hi, thank you very much for let me participate in this great thread and thanks to the nice people helping the newbies again and again, specially RJ, Wiz, Martyfish, jjre65... I'm trading for 1 year now and I spent the last 2 months reading this beautiful thread and studing the system.
The trade I took today looked profitable (matrix, stoch, trend, even arrow...)
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... but when I entered, it turned against me
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Was that entry point good or I missed anything? Thank you very much.
Life is climbing
  • #22,050
  • Mar 6, 2014 12:54pm Mar 6, 2014 12:54pm
Hi Splink,

With ECB decision today, once the excitement of that died down, so did the markets.

Trading after Europe & UK closes is always a little fraught.

Moves tend not to carry through, unless it is major news.

So ECB disappointing the market, is not such as event !!
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #22,051
  • Mar 6, 2014 2:38pm Mar 6, 2014 2:38pm
Quoting streetcry
GJ short here -13 no follow through gave it a chance but closed after matrix changed back and 15 min stoch lost its angle {image}
I took a similar trade. It's a risky one, GJ Has been trending up for the last 3 days.
Learn from your mistakes until you succeed. It's that simple.
  • #22,052
  • Mar 6, 2014 5:33pm Mar 6, 2014 5:33pm
Quoting Splink
The trade I took today looked profitable (matrix, stoch, trend, even arrow...) {image} ... but when I entered, it turned against me {image} Was that entry point good or I missed anything? Thank you very much.
Was the entry point good?...........Not in my book Splink.

Firstly, HTF stochs........ M30 heading down, H1 flatlining, H4 heading down.

Secondly, At the time you entered the H1 matrix was fully red/short. On the 15m charts, I never go long when the H1 matrix is fully red/short.

Just my 2c worth.
A MOUSE THAT ROARS IS STILL NOTHING MORE THAN A MOUSE!
  • #22,053
  • Mar 6, 2014 7:24pm Mar 6, 2014 7:24pm
Quoting scarlet pipe
{quote} Was the entry point good?...........Not in my book Splink. Firstly, HTF stochs........ M30 heading down, H1 flatlining, H4 heading down. Secondly, At the time you entered the H1 matrix was fully red/short. On the 15m charts, I never go long when the H1 matrix is fully red/short. Just my 2c worth.
Good analysis Scarlet!!!

PM1
  • #22,054
  • Mar 7, 2014 3:50am Mar 7, 2014 3:50am
Quoting PipMonster1
{quote} Good analysis Scarlet!!! PM1
Thanks PM1. It wasn't that long ago I was taking such trades.

We will only succeed if we continue to help each other.

As RJ once said, we never stop learning.
A MOUSE THAT ROARS IS STILL NOTHING MORE THAN A MOUSE!
  • #22,055
  • Mar 7, 2014 4:17am Mar 7, 2014 4:17am
Just Closed EA for +24.

1.)M15, M30 & H1 Stoch quite Strong.
2.)Triggered a M1 Genesis Trade in the same direction as soon as M5 Stoch got aligned.

mazprofx.
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  • #22,056
  • Mar 7, 2014 4:41am Mar 7, 2014 4:41am
Quoting scarlet pipe
{quote} Was the entry point good?...........Not in my book Splink. Firstly, HTF stochs........ M30 heading down, H1 flatlining, H4 heading down. Secondly, At the time you entered the H1 matrix was fully red/short. On the 15m charts, I never go long when the H1 matrix is fully red/short. Just my 2c worth.
Yes, I didn't see the HTF stochs. At the time I took the trade the H1 matrix was 3 white and 1 red (TVI). Maybe that full red you saw, was completed during that bearish hour, after I took the trade.
Next time I'll pay more attention to those HTF stochs, thank you!
Life is climbing
  • #22,057
  • Mar 7, 2014 4:56pm Mar 7, 2014 4:56pm
Quoting mazprofx
Just Closed EA for +24. 1.)M15, M30 & H1 Stoch quite Strong. 2.)Triggered a M1 Genesis Trade in the same direction as soon as M5 Stoch got aligned. mazprofx. {image}
Hi mazp.

Good trade, and an interesting one. (I took it but got shaken out early, so well done for hanging in there)

I can hear some traders thinking hang on a minute!!.........how come this is a good trade when LTF stochs are so low and other trades are not good w very similar stochs????
Good question.

For me, this is a price action trade backed up by strong Genesis signals because in any other circumstances, I would not take a trade w LTF stochs low - OS, because it wouldnt qualify as an HPT.
The circumstances:
Current trend = ranging (and heading into LO)
Dominant trend = bear strong
Price = hovering around and bouncing off DP, w BRN 30 pips below.
Stochs = M5, M15, M30, H1, D1 bearish...........H4 bullish.
Matrix / ASCT = bear strong.........very strong!

Final conformation for entry = break of DP.

PS I have reinstalled candles on my M5 trade management chart so that I can read PA for these very trades.
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  • #22,058
  • Edited 2:29am Mar 8, 2014 2:15am | Edited 2:29am
Quoting jjre65
{quote} I can hear some traders thinking hang on a minute!!.........how come this is a good trade when LTF stochs are so low and other trades are not good w very similar stochs???? Good question.
Hi!! jjre,

All your reasons are valid and right. Though i didn't saw H4 and D1 Stoch.

My main reason to Enter the Trade was Strong M30 & H1 Stochs (both crossed down & below 50).
I don't concentrate on M5, M15 Stochs, First i.e doesn't gives them first priority. Rather, I likes to go in Reverse Order.
That is, I concentrates on M30 & H1 Stoch, First. So, once direction is confirmed with M30 & H1 Stoch. Then, I will have a look on M15 Stoch, if M15 Stoch is moving in the same direction of HTF Stochs (i.e M30 & H1) then I will trigger an Entry as soon as M5 Stoch gets aligned. Note:- Strong M15 Stoch is the Key. And, Strong HTF Stochs (i.e M30 & H1) can keep M5 & M15 Stoch in the same direction for a while.

And, It was an HPT Trade, as HTF Stochs defines an HPT trade not LTF Stochs.

mazprofx.
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  • #22,059
  • Mar 8, 2014 3:15am Mar 8, 2014 3:15am
Quoting mazprofx
{quote} Hi!! jjre, All your reasons are valid and right. Though i didn't saw H4 and D1 Stoch. My main reason to Enter the Trade was Strong M30 & H1 Stochs (both crossed down & below 50). I don't concentrate on M5, M15 Stochs, First i.e doesn't gives them first priority. Rather, I likes to go in Reverse Order. That is, I concentrates on M30 & H1 Stoch, First. So, once direction is confirmed with M30 & H1 Stoch. Then, I will have a look on M15 Stoch, if M15 Stoch is moving in the same direction of HTF Stochs (i.e M30 & H1) then I will trigger an Entry...
Hi mazp

The reverse order adds up to the same result, which is getting all the ducks in a row and pulling the trigger, whether you are waiting for signals on LTFs and confirming on HTFs or the other way around.

However, I will take LTF stochs coming from OB/OS with HTF stochs in a high or low position every time over HTF stochs coming from OB/OS and LTF stochs above/below 80/20.
I know from my trading, that LTF stochs coming from high/low w HTF stochs in the same general direction when they are high/low usually gives me a 15-20 pip head start in trades, which gets me into very good positions.

Strong HTF stochs do carry a lot of influence over long term price action, but they do not in any way prevent price from doing whatever it wants, when it wants.

Strong M15 stoch is not the key for me, it is a piece of the puzzle.

For sure it was an HPT, but not merely because the HTFs were in line. No trade is an HPT just because the HTF stochs agree, there are many other considerations, at least for me.

Cheers J.
Winning isnt everything but coming second sucks (Charlie Brown)
  • #22,060
  • Mar 11, 2014 2:20am Mar 11, 2014 2:20am
Thought id break the silence and say Hi. Anyone spotted anything for LO ? I haven't as yet, but hope everyone is doing OK all the same.

Cheers

SR
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