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  • #21,741
  • Feb 11, 2014 4:22am Feb 11, 2014 4:22am
As a heads up, Fed Chair Yellen will Testify at 3pm.

But her text will be released at 13:30

BEWARE !!!!
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #21,742
  • Feb 11, 2014 6:38am Feb 11, 2014 6:38am
Quoting Martyfish
As a heads up, Fed Chair Yellen will Testify at 3pm. But her text will be released at 13:30 BEWARE !!!!
thanks Martyfish......
  • #21,743
  • Feb 11, 2014 8:35am Feb 11, 2014 8:35am
enter a short on EJ...

anyone?
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  • #21,744
  • Feb 11, 2014 8:43am Feb 11, 2014 8:43am
Quoting Gold Miner
enter a short on EJ... anyone? {image} {image}
I hope you were on it Gold miner, where you on it? I read all your posts and hope you are profitable now.
See you in KL
Regards
Anthm
When you're in the land of HOPE, you're done, get out of there, WALK AWAY
  • #21,745
  • Feb 11, 2014 8:51am Feb 11, 2014 8:51am
Quoting anthm
{quote} I hope you were on it Gold miner, where you on it? I read all your posts and hope you are profitable now. See you in KL Regards Anthm
Hi, anthm. I entered @ 139.930 just now and the trade was managed closed @ BRN.....so far so good..

Oh? I think you'd already come KL, anyway, see you.
  • #21,746
  • Feb 11, 2014 8:52am Feb 11, 2014 8:52am
time to sleep, anthm..chat tomorrow..bye!
  • #21,747
  • Feb 11, 2014 9:04am Feb 11, 2014 9:04am
Quoting Gold Miner
enter a short on EJ... anyone? {image} {image}
Yup, got that as well
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #21,748
  • Feb 11, 2014 7:48pm Feb 11, 2014 7:48pm
Some people seem to have problems with Build 600, and not others. I have had no issues at all. but one thing I have done is to delete all the .mq4 files from the new 'Indicators' folder (see pic) to just leave the .ex4 files there. I did this because Build 600 cannot compile the .mq4 files correctly, so you end up with a corrupt .ex4 file that will not work. Therefore, there is no reason to leave the .mq4 files there as one day they may cause a problem.

Before you go deleting them though, make sure you have backups......you can get these from the old 'experts/indicators' folder, and you should store them somewhere other than on the same machine.....windoze being not crashproof etc etc...lol.

I talked to Xaphod here about deleting the .mq4 files from the new indicators folder, and he agrees.
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  • #21,749
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:05pm Feb 11, 2014 10:05pm
Quoting realjumper
Some people seem to have problems with Build 600, and not others. I have had no issues at all. but one thing I have done is to delete all the .mq4 files from the new 'Indicators' folder (see pic) to just leave the .ex4 files there. I did this because Build 600 cannot compile the .mq4 files correctly, so you end up with a corrupt .ex4 file that will not work. Therefore, there is no reason to leave the .mq4 files there as one day they may cause a problem. Before you go deleting them though, make sure you have backups......you can get these from the...

Yup, that's exactly what I did also. Works fine for me, and my upgrade took only a couple of hours. Just make sure to keep a copy of all your indicators and templates somewhere safe first.

I had some trouble with the stoch-mtf.ex4 file on higher timeframes initially, sometime it just disappears. But seems to be working better now. It would be great if we eventually have a thread for Genesis tools .mq4 files for build 600 and higher
  • #21,750
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:14pm Feb 11, 2014 10:14pm
Quoting realjumper
Some people seem to have problems with Build 600, and not others. I have had no issues at all. but one thing I have done is to delete all the .mq4 files from the new 'Indicators' folder (see pic) to just leave the .ex4 files there. I did this because Build 600 cannot compile the .mq4 files correctly, so you end up with a corrupt .ex4 file that will not work. Therefore, there is no reason to leave the .mq4 files there as one day they may cause a problem. Before you go deleting them though, make sure you have backups......you can get these from the...
Thank you RJ for that,
I know little about the whole thing however each time I open my MT4 I get a pop up asking me if I want Metaquotes to make changes to my hard drive? Of course I keep saying "NO" as I imagine its going to then go on and load Build 600 automatically, could someone please advise if I am on the right track?
Further to this is it even necessary to use Build 600 in the first place? Is there any advantage over build 509?
Kind regards
Anthm
When you're in the land of HOPE, you're done, get out of there, WALK AWAY
  • #21,751
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:23pm Feb 11, 2014 10:23pm
The Matrix indicator on the first post upgraded for build 600+.
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  • #21,752
  • Edited 10:47pm Feb 11, 2014 10:34pm | Edited 10:47pm
Quoting anthm
{quote} Thank you RJ for that, I know little about the whole thing however each time I open my MT4 I get a pop up asking me if I want Metaquotes to make changes to my hard drive? Of course I keep saying "NO" as I imagine its going to then go on and load Build 600 automatically, could someone please advise if I am on the right track? Further to this is it even necessary to use Build 600 in the first place? Is there any advantage over build 509? Kind regards Anthm
That's right...that's exactly what that pop up will do. I too said 'No', but I got sick of it and thought, 'what the hell...lets do it'...and clicked 'Yes'. The next thing that happened was the platform opened for a split second and then shut down. After about 2 or 3 seconds it opened again, momentarily, and then shut down again. 2 or 3 seconds later, it opened and stayed open so I checked the version and it said 'Build 600'.....so I opened some charts, and all was well.

After finding where the templates and indicators now reside I was ok.....I really don't care where they reside, as long as I know where they are!! During my research on Build 600, I found out that if you place an .mq4 file in the new location, the platform will try to create (compile) an .ex4 file, which is what Build 509 used to do as well. But now the programming language has changed and MT4 (Build 600) can no longer read the old language properly, so it tries to create and .ex4 file, but it can't do it. What you end up with is a corrupt .ex4 file, which is the indi, and it won't work!

So....to prevent any chance of an .mq4 file automatically trying to compile into a .ex4 file (which won't work), better to delete the .mq4 files completely from the new location because they are redundant......no point in them even being there.

Whether build 600 is better than 509. I don't know. You'd have to ask Xaphod about that.

But if I was you, when the markets are quiet, I'd bite the bullet and upgrade......provided you have already made backups of you 'experts/indicators' folder, as well as your templates folder.

In the event that it all turns to shit, you can uninstall MT4 and download a fresh one from your broker......replace the indicators and templates from your back up, and you should be good to go
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #21,753
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:39pm Feb 11, 2014 10:39pm
Quoting Xaphod
The Matrix indicator on the first post upgraded for build 600+. {file}
Thanks Xaphod......I have added this to Post#1, and I will delete the old one soon.
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  • #21,754
  • Edited 11:41pm Feb 11, 2014 10:48pm | Edited 11:41pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Thanks Xaphod......I have added this to Post#1, and I will delete the old one soon.
You should keep the old one there at least until metaquotes stops supporting build 509. These 600+ indicators will may not work on build 509.

Also, I just included the Matrix and ASCTrend in the zip file. The template and pivot indicator and MTF stoch are not included. You should probably create a new zip file with a full setup of indicators and templates for Build 600+.

Edit: Correction. It may not be compatible with build 509. I did not test it. But I don't think I added any 600+ only stuff.
  • #21,755
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:51pm Feb 11, 2014 10:51pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} You should keep the old one there at least until metaquotes stops supporting build 509. These 600+ indicators will not work on build 509. Also, I just included the Matrix and ASCTrend in the zip file. The template and pivot indicator and MTF stoch are not included. You should probably create a new zip file with a full setup of indicators and templates for Build 600+.
Yes, I had a look inside the zip file, and as you say, I will need to create a complete new one in due course, with the pivot indi and template etc etc
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #21,756
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:52pm Feb 11, 2014 10:52pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} That's right...that's exactly what that pop up will do. I too said 'No', but I got sick of it and thought, 'what the hell...lets do it'...and clicked 'Yes'. The next thing that happened was the platform opened for a split second and then shut down. After about 2 or 3 seconds it opened again, momentarily, and then shut down again. 2 or 3 seconds later, it opened and stayed open so I checked the version and it said 'Build 600'.....
Ok cool, that's all a lot lot clearer now
Thank you
When you're in the land of HOPE, you're done, get out of there, WALK AWAY
  • #21,757
  • Edited 11:39pm Feb 11, 2014 11:05pm | Edited 11:39pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Whether build 600 is better than 509. I don't know. You'd have to ask Xaphod about that.

  1. The updated programming language has more functionality which will make writing more advanced indicators and EAs easier.
  2. They have added their App and Signal Market which is probably one of the main reasons for the update. Metaquotes takes a 20% cut of sales.
  3. Build 600+ is supposed to open market orders faster. About 400ms faster. Previous builds required re-authentication after 30s of trade inactivity which caused the longer processing time.

However, the new build is still riddled with bugs and should really be still in beta. They released 4 updates (600, 602,603,604) the first week of the initial release which should give you some idea of the quality of the software.

  • #21,758
  • Feb 11, 2014 11:10pm Feb 11, 2014 11:10pm
Quoting Xaphod
However, the new build is still riddled with bugs and should really be still in beta. They released 4 updates (600, 602,603,604) in about 6 days after the initial release which should give you some idea of the quality of the software.
Sounds like Micro$oft!!

Thanks for the info.....very interesting
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #21,759
  • Feb 11, 2014 11:29pm Feb 11, 2014 11:29pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} The updated programming language has more functionality which will make writing more advanced indicators and EAs easier. .
Thanks Xaphod, absolutely appreciate your comments, efforts and help as always.
Well done on the Genesis Matrix for Build 600.
Thanks again Xaphod
Regards
anthm
When you're in the land of HOPE, you're done, get out of there, WALK AWAY
  • #21,760
  • Feb 12, 2014 12:04am Feb 12, 2014 12:04am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} That's right...that's exactly what that pop up will do. I too said 'No', but I got sick of it and thought, 'what the hell...lets do it'...and clicked 'Yes'. The next thing that happened was the platform opened for a split second and then shut down. After about 2 or 3 seconds it opened again, momentarily, and then shut down again. 2 or 3 seconds later, it opened and stayed open so I checked the version and it said 'Build 600'.....so I opened some charts, and all was well. After finding where the templates and indicators now reside I was ok.....I...
For those who haven't updated, I'd suggest not to update the software but instead to download a new version separately and put it in a different folder name. That way, you can still recompile old .mq4 files in the 509 build in the old program if you want, and in the event you don't like the 600 build, you can still go back to the 509 build.
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