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  • #866,961
  • Dec 31, 2013 7:53pm Dec 31, 2013 7:53pm
got to go. Happy New Year guys. Enjoy holiday.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #866,962
  • Dec 31, 2013 7:55pm Dec 31, 2013 7:55pm
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  • #866,963
  • Dec 31, 2013 7:58pm Dec 31, 2013 7:58pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} Got it. Thanks. Im in Chicago. Same place as attila
Must be a nice place. Yes happy new year..
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,964
  • Dec 31, 2013 8:36pm Dec 31, 2013 8:36pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} Makes you wonder, if these people knew how to trade - what the hell are they doing reporting positions and writing articles ?! ...
why do you post on this forum?

Make me wonder...
  • #866,965
  • Dec 31, 2013 9:32pm Dec 31, 2013 9:32pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} See Markus, I have been right on point since we started this conversation, where you happened to Troll on in. Though your defence of the weak is admirable, your logic is flawed. My actual idea, is that not only was this not a stop loss hunt, that the market is actually to large for this sort of manipulation. ERGO, from my perspective...it is a unicorn. It doesn't exist. People can talk about it until they are blue in the face, but again, this is not the Penny Stock Markets... After Atilla posted link on banks clearing the books, you continue...
see you are wrong again mr 2 ma,s lol thats why u never make anything in this game u dont get the big picture,you just want to be right you silly fool ,being rude is showing what a lost little boy u are in these markets with your tech crap,laughable you are.i will be back trading o the 6th its what us pro,s do if you want to put your money where your mouth is set up a explorer on here i will do the same and wipe the floor with you and it has to be real money,eu will do or any thing you wish to trade.calling you out mouth on a stick
student
  • #866,966
  • Dec 31, 2013 9:41pm Dec 31, 2013 9:41pm
Quoting mry2001
{quote} why do you post on this forum? Make me wonder...
He/She just expressed something after completing the act of smoking marijuana in excess at a place on internet where idiots contribute world's worst ideas. Problem?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #866,967
  • Dec 31, 2013 9:51pm Dec 31, 2013 9:51pm
Quoting garrye
{quote} see you are wrong again mr 2 ma,s lol thats why u never make anything in this game u dont get the big picture,you just want to be right you silly fool ,being rude is showing what a lost little boy u are in these markets with your tech crap,laughable you are.i will be back trading o the 6th its what us pro,s do if you want to put your money where your mouth is set up a explorer on here i will do the same and wipe the floor with you and it has to be real money,eu will do or any thing you wish to trade.calling you out mouth on a stick
How much money you want to put on this contest? OK, I will give 1K to you, if you win keep 50% plus all the winnings, but if you lose, return my money. Since I am a fair player, offer the same terms to Magix.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #866,968
  • Dec 31, 2013 9:56pm Dec 31, 2013 9:56pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} He/She just expressed something after completing the act of smoking marijuana in excess at a place on internet where idiots contribute world's worst ideas. Problem?
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,969
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:00pm Dec 31, 2013 10:00pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} How much money you want to put on this contest? OK, I will give 1K to you, if you win keep 50% plus all the winnings, but if you lose, return my money. Since I am a fair player, offer the same terms to Magix.
I think this thread lately is getting very interesting, many interesting people…..
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  • #866,970
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:03pm Dec 31, 2013 10:03pm
Quoting milam
{quote} I think this thread lately is getting very interesting, many interesting people…..
I have found a way how to turn this into a more useful place. Once they accept this offer, I will open my bookshop taking bets here. That will bring back my $500 plus much more than what I can earn from forex.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #866,971
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:19pm Dec 31, 2013 10:19pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} I have found a way how to turn this into a more useful place. Once they accept this offer, I will open my bookshop taking bets here. That will bring back my $500 plus much more than what I can earn from forex.
Yes, I think that is good Idea.

This thread can be often very boring , a lot of dick measuring, a lot of talk, talk, talk…..many just like to show how knowledgeable they are…….to me is just a sign of not being able to trade, good traders do not talk, they do not care to be right, they act…..they try to learn, they are humble...

I think, if people could not call at least two live calls a week, should not be able to post, words in trading mean nothing….
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,972
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:32pm Dec 31, 2013 10:32pm
Quoting milam
{quote} Yes, I think that is good Idea. This thread can be often very boring , a lot of dick measuring, a lot of talk, talk, talk…..many just like to show how knowledgeable they are…….to me is just a sign of not being able to trade, good traders do not talk, they do not care to be right, they act…..they try to learn, they are humble... I think, if people could not call at least two live calls a week, should not be able to post, words in trading mean nothing….
I try to stay away from dick measuring contests .................................. I am Asian
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #866,973
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:40pm Dec 31, 2013 10:40pm
I was just reading some of the statistics from traders positions here, and I was rather shocked that the majority are short the Euro which has been in a clear uptrend all year.

But then again, this shouldn't come as a surprise, as the mindset of the retail trader is to go against the trend, on the "hunch" that it's "near a top" and "if I initiate a short here, I'm going to make a fortune as the trend reverses and I ride it down."

Sounds good, and sometimes people will get lucky, and accurately call a top -- but the vast majority of the time, they just get burned.
  • #866,974
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:55pm Dec 31, 2013 10:55pm
Quoting Jason W
I was just reading some of the statistics from traders positions here, and I was rather shocked that the majority are short the Euro which has been in a clear uptrend all year. But then again, this shouldn't come as a surprise, as the mindset of the retail trader is to go against the trend, on the "hunch" that it's "near a top" and "if I initiate a short here, I'm going to make a fortune as the trend reverses and I ride it down." Sounds good, and sometimes people will get lucky, and accurately call a top -- but the vast majority of the time, they...
You are right, also I think the visual can influence the mind, what we see on a bull trend is a number of consecutive bars on the left side rising up, it seem that there is a long way to go down because of the trace left, while not having any trace above will give very much the impression that there is not much way go up, so it will be more difficult for people to take trades in the unknown…we must take in consideration the fact that anxiety place a big role into the decision making of a loser trader….. PLaese correct me if you find this of a bit of BS…..I do not mind…….I am working…...
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,975
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:57pm Dec 31, 2013 10:57pm
Quoting Jason W
I was just reading some of the statistics from traders positions here, and I was rather shocked that the majority are short the Euro which has been in an uptrend all year. But then, this is the mindset of the retail trader, to go against the trend, on the "hunch" that it's "near a top" and "if I initiate a short here, I'm going to make a fortune as the trend reverses and I ride it down." Sounds good, and sometimes people will get lucky, and accurately call a top -- but the vast majority of the time, they just get burned.
Right on many counts, but not all.

There is no point in engaging in a discussion without a complete scenario. When we say short? short from where and for what target or with what strategy or with how much risk? If we say that majority of these were short, it means nothing. This is a very general statement. People may go short knowing that this is an uptrend and we cannot say they are wrong unless we know the logic and plan behind their this action.

Live as if it is you last day, and someday, you will be right. If one takes blind chance of a trend change at every major level, will be right one day. A retail trader is so illinformed that has no choice but to either take blind chances with whatever little he/she knows or try to find a technical edge. I do not blame them unless soon after a trend revesal they again start look for reversal of this new trend every few pips.

Getting burnt is part of business for retail traders.......... they get burned in many ways.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #866,976
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:04pm Dec 31, 2013 11:04pm
Quote
You are right, also I think the visual can influence the mind, what we see on a bull trend is a number of consecutive bars on the left side rising up, it seem that there is a long way to go down because of the trace left, while not having any trace above will give very much the impression that there is not much way go up, so it will be more difficult for people to take trades in the unknown…we must take in consideration the fact that anxiety place a big role into the decision making of a loser trader….. PLaese correct me if you find this of a bit of BS…..I do not mind…….I am working…...

Yeah, I don't know what is about us traders that makes us want to buck the trend, and go contrarian, but this urge is very, very strong amongst our kind.

I used to think this way as well, I'd gaze at a powerful uptrend and think "Look how high it's come, there's no way it can go higher, I'm shorting here!"

Of course, I was almost never right, and after many failed trades, I readjusted my way of thinking.

Now, I never, ever go against the trend, no matter how high or how low.

I always buy strong markets, and always sell weak ones.
  • #866,977
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:07pm Dec 31, 2013 11:07pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Right on many counts, but not all. There is no point in engaging in a discussion without a complete scenario. When we say short? short from where and for what target or with what strategy or with how much risk? If we say that majority of these were short, it means nothing. This is a very general statement. People may go short knowing that this is an uptrend and we cannot say they are wrong unless we know the logic and plan behind their this action. Live as if it is you last day, and someday, you will be right. If one takes blind chance of...
Your neat post make sense, but I think Jason was taking more of the general sense, it is always easier to trade with the big trend, even when scalping….
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,978
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:10pm Dec 31, 2013 11:10pm
Quoting milam
{quote} Your neat post make sense, but I think Jason was taking more of the general sense, it is always easier to trade with the big trend, even when scalping….
Yep...whatever the time frame is, going with the flow instead of against it makes things a lot easier.
  • #866,979
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:22pm Dec 31, 2013 11:22pm
Quoting milam
{quote} Your neat post make sense, but I think Jason was taking more of the general sense, it is always easier to trade with the big trend, even when scalping….
Don't know how people go with or against a trend with any level of assurance. I am never sure or reasonably sure about the trend. As soon as you embark on a mega trend to ride a little on it, it gets 50% retrace exactly from your entry. If you go against a trend, it starts making leaps against your direction and it is too late before you realize what you thought was a trend exhaustion is in fact just start of the trend. In other words, fuck the trend following and also fuck the contra trend trading. Find something else and you will be very happy.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #866,980
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:26pm Dec 31, 2013 11:26pm
Quoting garrye
{quote} see you are wrong again mr 2 ma,s lol thats why u never make anything in this game u dont get the big picture,you just want to be right you silly fool ,being rude is showing what a lost little boy u are in these markets with your tech crap,laughable you are.i will be back trading o the 6th its what us pro,s do if you want to put your money where your mouth is set up a explorer on here i will do the same and wipe the floor with you and it has to be real money,eu will do or any thing you wish to trade.calling you out mouth on a stick

Stick in mouth and dick in hand is what you fuckstains typically carry.

You got no game, son.

Check back on my post history and look at the people who have tried to meet this same challenge.

You are a smack talking fool.

When I used to compete, there were a defined set of rules and prior to your little experts to guide. I have nothing to gain here. I do what I do as I need to do what I do.

You've set no boundaries, you've set no rules...My challenge has always been met by a zero trade. Meaning, I have competed against throw rugs like yourself and have never needed to take a trade to win. At zero trades, I have beat your kind. Only thing here is that you seem to think you seemingly know me better than I know you.

I'd bet if it went to manual trades, you haven't the balls or skill to back your bullshit...but it ain't like that, is it??

So, how's bout this....

You prove me wrong in anything I have said.
You show me up, and I dust off my Championship belt.

And I will take your challenge.

Until then, Garry.

Why don't you go fuck yourself, you worthless spamming bitch?
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